On Friday, May 7, 2010, Noein wrote:
> We're aiming in this mailing list to shape the futur of the human
> knowledge through the foundation, right? So it is right to talk about
> the future, it's not an arrogance.
> Of course, any affirmation about the future must be considered an
> hypothesis, h
Dan Rosenthal wrote:
> On May 6, 2010, at 10:24 PM, geni wrote:
>> 3D objects could already be supported as .blend files although we
>> don't at this point.
>
> But not the manipulation of them in a fully interactive physics based 3d
> environment with simultaneous interaction from thousands of o
I can’t imagine virtual reality playing a main role in an encyclopedia.
But I see a lot of possibilities in creating learning materials.
When people enroll a real live learning program they are paying for 3
things: For acquiring knowledge; for somebody (or some process) guiding and
motivating
On 05/06/2010 11:03 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 6 May 2010 19:00, Milos Rancic wrote:
>
>> The point is that this is an engine for virtual reality, while it is
>> MMORPG, too. And unlike Second Life, the platform is free software
>> which anyone would be able to install. Integrating Wikimedi
As requested, here's the weekly Flagged Protection update.
The main news is that the team had a meeting this week with Danese and
Erik to discuss rollout plans. Everybody concurs that we're close enough
to launch to start a few release-related activities:
1) Starting a discussion with the enwik
From: Thomas Dalton
>
> No, it won't. People have been saying that for years and the fact
> remains that a screen full of a text with a few relevant images is a
> much better way to convey information than VR.
>
openstreetmap.org is a very good way to convey spatial information, much
better than
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Please stop any sarcasm. There are ideas worth the consideration, as
with any newly available technological tool.
We're aiming in this mailing list to shape the futur of the human
knowledge through the foundation, right? So it is right to talk about
th
On May 7, 2010, at 12:21 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Dan Rosenthal wrote:
>> On May 6, 2010, at 10:24 PM, geni wrote:
>>>
>>> 3D objects could already be supported as .blend files although we
>>> don't at this point.
>>>
>>> --
>>> geni
>>
>> But not the manip
Milos Rancic wrote:
> The MMORPG Ryzom goes Free Software [1]. Although it was just a matter
> of time, this event is very important for shaping our future. MMORPG
> is virtual reality and VR worlds will be [a significant part of] our
> future.
Nice to see our resident futurist making some more pr
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Dan Rosenthal wrote:
> On May 6, 2010, at 10:24 PM, geni wrote:
>>
>> 3D objects could already be supported as .blend files although we
>> don't at this point.
>>
>> --
>> geni
>
> But not the manipulation of them in a fully interactive physics based 3d
> environme
On May 6, 2010, at 10:24 PM, geni wrote:
> On 7 May 2010 03:17, Dan Rosenthal wrote:
>> The obvious example that comes to mind is the 3D virtual world physics as a
>> tool for disseminating knowledge. For instance, I was looking up various
>> model Porsche race cars the other day on Wikipedia.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, robert_horn...@netzero.net
wrote:
>
> --
>
> There was a time when the Wikimedia Foundation, or rather those involved with
> the various sister projects, were interested in some leading edge and
> bleeding edge stuff. Â Considerable experimentation was encoura
-- Original Message --
From: George Herbert
Let me pose this a different way, however. Take UI entirely out of
the picture - the Wikimedia Foundation is all about supporting
projects that gather and create information for the public good,
presenting that to the public, and crea
On 7 May 2010 03:17, Dan Rosenthal wrote:
> The obvious example that comes to mind is the 3D virtual world physics as a
> tool for disseminating knowledge. For instance, I was looking up various
> model Porsche race cars the other day on Wikipedia. No amount of text can
> truly describe the int
The obvious example that comes to mind is the 3D virtual world physics as a
tool for disseminating knowledge. For instance, I was looking up various model
Porsche race cars the other day on Wikipedia. No amount of text can truly
describe the intangible differences in control between driving a Po
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:31 PM, robert_horn...@netzero.net
wrote:
> -- Original Message --
> From: Thomas Dalton
>
>
> No, it won't. People have been saying that for years and the fact
> remains that a screen full of a text with a few relevant images is a
> much better way to conv
To whom it may concern,
Can you, or someone you know, help guide Wikimedia Foundation through
the next exciting steps of its strategic development and growth?
The Wikimedia Chapters are looking for two candidates to sit on the
Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees for 2 years commencing in
Jul
I think the MMOEnvironment (not really a role-playing game in this
context, is it?) is an interesting forum for experimentation, but
non-game uses are still completely undeveloped. It's ripe for an
entrepreneur, but I'm not sure what the WMF could do with such an
environment. How would a vast knowl
-- Original Message --
From: Thomas Dalton
No, it won't. People have been saying that for years and the fact
remains that a screen full of a text with a few relevant images is a
much better way to convey information than VR.
I look at comments like this as somebody who is
Hoi,
When you consider the Wikimedia movement to include translatewiki.net, we
have already connections with games. We localise Freecol. While not
everybody likes virtual realities, many do. As there is always a good reason
to say no, there is typically also a good reason to say yes. I would welcom
On 6 May 2010 19:00, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM, geni wrote:
>> Doubtful. Why a few turn based and real time strategy have
>> historically spread information MMORPGs have not. Freeciv might be a
>> better target if you want to try that.
>
> The point is that this is an e
On 6 May 2010 19:00, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM, geni wrote:
>> Doubtful. Why a few turn based and real time strategy have
>> historically spread information MMORPGs have not. Freeciv might be a
>> better target if you want to try that.
>
> The point is that this is an e
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM, geni wrote:
> Doubtful. Why a few turn based and real time strategy have
> historically spread information MMORPGs have not. Freeciv might be a
> better target if you want to try that.
The point is that this is an engine for virtual reality, while it is
MMORPG, too
On 6 May 2010 17:55, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Nathan wrote:
>> I'm not sure I'm correctly understanding what you've written, but
>> supporting open source games seems to be outside the normal scope of
>> the WMF.
>
> This is not about games, but about virtual reality
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Nathan wrote:
> I'm not sure I'm correctly understanding what you've written, but
> supporting open source games seems to be outside the normal scope of
> the WMF.
This is not about games, but about virtual reality and platform for
spreading free knowledge.
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I'm not sure I'm correctly understanding what you've written, but
supporting open source games seems to be outside the normal scope of
the WMF.
Nathan
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On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> The MMORPG Ryzom goes Free Software [1]. Although it was just a matter
> of time, this event is very important for shaping our future. MMORPG
> is virtual reality and VR worlds will be [a significant part of] our
> future.
>
> Wikimedia should
The MMORPG Ryzom goes Free Software [1]. Although it was just a matter
of time, this event is very important for shaping our future. MMORPG
is virtual reality and VR worlds will be [a significant part of] our
future.
Wikimedia should join FSF and Winch Gate Properties in shaping the future.
[1] -
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
[Quoting reordered.]
>> > Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on
>> this list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this
>> list. Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
>> Could someone see to hooking it up to Gmane, pl
Hoi,
I learned yesterday that the announcement list should have forwarded to the
foundation-l it did not work because of a configuration issue.. In future
announcements will forward as it should.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 6 May 2010 13:06, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
> Jay Walsh wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
Jay Walsh wrote:
> [...]
> Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on this
> list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this list.
> Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
Could someone see to hooking it up to Gmane, please?
TIA,
Tim
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On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Sue Gardner wrote:
>
> The trick is, I think, to create a healthy mix. Wikimedia needs experienced
> editors who have good judgment and can recognize patterns and coach and
> guide the inexperienced. It also needs a regular influx of new people who
> can bring fresh
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