Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Thursday 14 January 2010 09:24:16 Nikola Smolenski написа: > At Wikipedia Page Views Per Country - Overview, could you in future > include number of Internet users (f.e. from > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users > ) and number of views per Internet user?

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread geni
2010/1/14 Jiří Hofman : > Just go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse . You will see > there is no really high quality image of human sexual intercourse. File:Housefly mating.jpg is a featured image. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing l

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: >>Or go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sex_positions , one of the most >>viewed pages of English Wikipedia. Do you think the images there are of >>excellent quality? I don't. > > > I think they have a certain innocent charm. They look l

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread Bod Notbod
>Or go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sex_positions , one of the most >viewed pages of English Wikipedia. Do you think the images there are of >excellent quality? I don't. I think they have a certain innocent charm. They look like pictures drawn by an illiterate who needed a hobby whil

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2010/1/14 Nathan : >> To avoid the very real chance that the subjects of explicit photos are >> underage or have not given publishing consent, I would like to see >> Commons require proof of model release, and age verification, for >> explici

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2010/1/14 Nathan : >> To avoid the very real chance that the subjects of explicit photos are >> underage or have not given publishing consent, I would like to see >> Commons require proof of model release, and age verification, for >> explic

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/14 Nathan : > To avoid the very real chance that the subjects of explicit photos are > underage or have not given publishing consent, I would like to see > Commons require proof of model release, and age verification, for > explicit images. And how exactly would they do that? Upload a pictu

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2010/1/13 private musings : >> G'day all, >> I continue to have concerns related to the growing number of explicit images >> on WMF projects (largely commons) - but rather than banging on with dull >> mailing list posts which gaurantee a chor

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread Jiří Hofman
> 2010/1/14 Jiří Hofman : > > It is clear that much of sex-related multimedia stored in our project is of > > a very low quality, not meeting our requirements and needs. Often, it > > doesn't provide what we are looking for - high quality information. > > That isn't clear to me. Could you elabor

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/14 Jiří Hofman : > It is clear that much of sex-related multimedia stored in our project is of a > very low quality, not meeting our requirements and needs. Often, it doesn't > provide what we are looking for - high quality information. That isn't clear to me. Could you elaborate? __

Re: [Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread David Moran
I think this is a great idea actually. Probably a good place to start would be the WikiProject: Sex page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality Commons would probably be (or should be) interested as well. Cheers DM On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jiří Hof

[Foundation-l] Sex-related content improvement

2010-01-14 Thread Jiří Hofman
Hello! It is clear that much of sex-related multimedia stored in our project is of a very low quality, not meeting our requirements and needs. Often, it doesn't provide what we are looking for - high quality information. I propose to start a project which would encourage, by a form of contest a

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/13 private musings : > G'day all, > I continue to have concerns related to the growing number of explicit images > on WMF projects (largely commons) - but rather than banging on with dull > mailing list posts which gaurantee a chorus of groans, I'm trying to be a > bit less dull, and have ma

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Marcus Buck
Explicit images don't need to be used in an "encyclopedic" context (Wikimedia is more than just an encyclopedia). They just have to be _potentially_ useful in any Wikimedia project context (that's the narrow, utilitaristic view on Commons) or in any possible educative context (that's the more b

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Mike.lifeguard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2010/1/14 David Goodman : > >> As for the link, showing these in greatly enlarged versions, without >> the context of the articles in which they are used, is setting up a >> strong bias. We've never engage

Re: [Foundation-l] upload.wikimedia.org blocked in China?

2010-01-14 Thread Olli
Its Forbidden in here Finland too. Olli 2010/1/14 shi zhao > upload.wikimedia.org blocked in China? > > ping upload.wikimedia.org no response in Beijing, China. > > Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ > My blog: http://shizhao.org > twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao > > [[zh:User:Shi

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Thursday 14 January 2010 05:59:39 David Goodman написа: > As for the link, showing these in greatly enlarged versions, without > the context of the articles in which they are used, is setting up a > strong bias. We've never engaged in that use of the material, nor http://wikistics.falsikon.d

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, David Goodman wrote: > As for the link, showing these in greatly enlarged  versions, without > the context of the articles in which they are used, is setting up a > strong bias. We've never engaged in that use of the material, nor > would we. If people want to ta

[Foundation-l] upload.wikimedia.org blocked in China?

2010-01-14 Thread shi zhao
upload.wikimedia.org blocked in China? ping upload.wikimedia.org no response in Beijing, China. Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://shizhao.org twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao [[zh:User:Shizhao]] ___ foundation-l mailing l

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Marcus Buck wrote: > > It would make sense. But at the moment  WMDE is not even actively doing > anything for the _native_ languages of Germany except for German. I > think that would be the first step to do. > I had a quick look at the native languages of Italy,

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread David Gerard
2010/1/14 David Goodman : > As for the link, showing these in greatly enlarged  versions, without > the context of the articles in which they are used, is setting up a > strong bias. We've never engaged in that use of the material, nor > would we. If people want to take our material out of our enc

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Marcus Buck
Nikola Smolenski hett schreven: > In Page Views Per Wikipedia Language - Breakdown I also notice something > that should affect chapter relations: there are some Wikipedias which > are read from foreign countries more than from the country of origin > (probably b/c readers from diaspora is riche

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Andrew Gray
2010/1/14 Nikola Smolenski : > Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> In Page Views Per Wikipedia Language - Breakdown I also notice something >> that should affect chapter relations: there are some Wikipedias which > > Also, any ideas why is Commons so popular in Spain and Latin America? Some Wikipedias - th

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Nikola Smolenski wrote: > In Page Views Per Wikipedia Language - Breakdown I also notice something > that should affect chapter relations: there are some Wikipedias which Also, any ideas why is Commons so popular in Spain and Latin America? Commons (commons) (0.010% share of global total) Spain

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Andre Engels wrote: > Going through the countries, another remarkable result in my opinion > is the Ukraine - Ukrainian is not a small language by any means, yet > Wikipedia visitors tend to be drawn to the Russian Wikipedia instead. > > Also, the Q3-Q4 comparison for most countries shows a shift

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Erik Zachte wrote: > Today I released 4 new reports, which all focus on: > > Where do our readers come from? And, (sorry) one more question: is the first time that such reports are being released? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Ziko van Dijk wrote: >> Thank you for the numbers, Erik! >> I wonder why 40 % of the visitors of ksh.WP (the dialect of Cologne) are >> from Japan. And why 25 % of the visitors of eu.WP (Basque) are from Poland? > > Bots? I think that's a

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Thank you for the numbers, Erik! > I wonder why 40 % of the visitors of ksh.WP (the dialect of Cologne) are > from Japan. And why 25 % of the visitors of eu.WP (Basque) are from Poland? Bots? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Thank you for the numbers, Erik! I wonder why 40 % of the visitors of ksh.WP (the dialect of Cologne) are from Japan. And why 25 % of the visitors of eu.WP (Basque) are from Poland? Kind regards Ziko 2010/1/14 Mark Williamson > I think there are two main factors influencing this: > > #

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Mark Williamson
I think there are two main factors influencing this: # Fluency of the Internet-using population of a country in English. In a country like Japan, basic English is widespread but real reading comprehension on the level necessary for reading WP articles is not (as far as I know at least). Scandinavi

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Waerth
H what saddens me is that such a low percentage use the Thai wikipedia in Thailand instead of the English one. Having lived in Thailand for over 10 years now my estimation is that only 10% of the populous would speak English good enough to be able to read English wikipedia articles at least

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Andre Engels wrote: > > To quantify this, I have taken the 50 largest countries, excluding > languages where English is the main language (United States, United > Kingdom, Canada, Australia, India, Philippines, Singapore, Ireland, > New Zealand, South Africa). For

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Erik Zachte wrote: > Today I released 4 new reports, which all focus on: > > Where do our readers come from? > > > >   http://tinyurl.com/yhdej3j Going through the countries, another remarkable result in my opinion is the Ukraine - Ukra

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Erik Zachte wrote: > Today I released 4 new reports, which all focus on: > > Where do our readers come from? > > http://tinyurl.com/yhdej3j Except for Australia-Japanese, there is also this: Sierra Leone (0.0007% share of global total) Russian Wp 44.9% Englis

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Mark Williamson
Ethnologue has numbers for all languages although their information is often outdated or not 100% accurate, it is sufficient if you're doing a list with many languages. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Erik Zachte wrote: > > Today I released 4 new reports, which all fo

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

2010-01-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Erik Zachte wrote: > Today I released 4 new reports, which all focus on: > > Where do our readers come from? > > http://tinyurl.com/yhdej3j Excellent and extremely useful! A big thank you! :) A few questions: Could we get this for other projects? At Wikipedia Pa