On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/9/13 effe iets anders :
> > can someone kill this thread? Thanks.
>
> Why? Misuse of foundation funds is very much within the scope of this list.
>
Yes, but misuse of this list is very much within the scope of killing the
thread.
>
> _
Pavlo Shevelo wrote:
>> Isn't temporarily blocking such a user a way to calm him/her down? I
>>
> Yes it might be the way, but far not universal way.
> And it should be the last (ultimate) in moderator toolkit, far not the
> first to be used.
>
>
Sure. And in these situations a short-term
Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/9/11 Waldir Pimenta :
>
>> Hi Thomas, and all who showed concern about Wikimedia Portugal's planned
>> expenses.
>>
>> I am one of the persons who calculated that budget, and thus I feel I should
>> provide you with some information.
>>
> Thank you very much, I a
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Erik Zachte wrote:
> For the record, I am one of those who did not speak up yet
> (ref Austin) who would hope some of our power posters felt
> less need to share every thought with the rest of us.
>
> In a public debate few people with a firm stance can be
> convin
2009/9/13 Austin Hair :
> I've personally met some of the most prolific posters to Foundation-l,
> and not one I can think of is the type to dominate a conversation in
> person.
*cough* I am, but consciously try to moderate it. A bit.
> I'm encouraged by how the discussion's progressed thus fa
How am I heckling you? I'm just stating the facts. There's no need for
this to turn into a fight.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Mark Williamson wrote:
>
>> People are complaining to whoever is in charge of the venue.
>>
>
> And if the person
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Mark Williamson wrote:
> People are complaining to whoever is in charge of the venue.
>
And if the person in charge of the venue considers me to be a net detriment,
I hope and expect that I will be asked, privately, to leave, at which point
I will comply.
There'
People are complaining to whoever is in charge of the venue.
skype: node.ue
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Austin Hair wrote:
>>
>> A mailing list, however, is different. A mailing list is a
>> conversation. Everyone's been in a conversati
Fine for whom? Fine for you? It comes as no surprise to me and
probably to anybody else that you are "fine" with the "lack of formal
structured posting rules".
You made 77 posts to this list last month, surpassed only by Thomas
Dalton at 98. Compare 3rd and 4th place: 57 for GerardM and 40 for
Gre
For the record, I am one of those who did not speak up yet
(ref Austin) who would hope some of our power posters felt
less need to share every thought with the rest of us.
In a public debate few people with a firm stance can be
convinced to change their mind, so most polemical posts
can only ho
2009/9/13 effe iets anders :
> can someone kill this thread? Thanks.
Why? Misuse of foundation funds is very much within the scope of this list.
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can someone kill this thread? Thanks.
2009/9/13 Thomas Dalton
> 2009/9/13 Austin Hair :
> > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
> >>> Wow, that's... pretty offensive, actually.
> >>
> >> If you are offended by statements of fact, that is your problem.
> >
> > I think it's fa
2009/9/13 Austin Hair :
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
>>> Wow, that's... pretty offensive, actually.
>>
>> If you are offended by statements of fact, that is your problem.
>
> I think it's fairly clear that I dispute the factualness of your statement.
You take offence
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> Wow, that's... pretty offensive, actually.
>
> If you are offended by statements of fact, that is your problem.
I think it's fairly clear that I dispute the factualness of your statement.
> Last time I checked, being a non-profit (and a ch
2009/9/13 John Vandenberg :
> I am also shocked by this very broad brush.
>
> You are not just saying that they lack experience, or "competence" -
> you are saying that chapters are likely to misuse funds.
You are putting words in my mouth. I haven't specified a probability
that a randomly chosen
2009/9/13 Austin Hair :
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
>> While that is true, it is also important to remember that most people
>> setting up a chapter have next to no experience of running a
>> non-profit. They don't know what is and isn't appropriate to spend
>> donat
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Austin Hair wrote:
>
> A mailing list, however, is different. A mailing list is a
> conversation. Everyone's been in a conversation where a single person
> dominated, and no matter how smart or charismatic or entertaining he
> may be, dominating a conversation mi
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Mark Williamson wrote:
> > But please, not on this list. This list is fine as it is.
>
> Says who?
Presumably whoever wrote that statement.
But I'd like to clarify it. I think we could use more active
administrators, who actively participate in the discussion
Austin Hair wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>
>> Seems to me that the mailing list is working just fine, despite a few
>> people who complain far too much about the volume of traffic, or about
>> the occasional tendency to irrelevant comments. They need to exerci
2009/9/13 Henning Schlottmann :
> This whole issue is one of information processing. Everyone has to learn
> how to deal with information in large amounts and on different media.
> But there have been a few generations of experience we can plug in,
> there are best practices and web boards are not
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Austin Hair wrote:
>
> For every one of the "few people" who complain, I'll bet money that
> there are at least ten who don't speak up on the list, because other
> people are championing the cause already; for every one of those
> there's probably another who unsu
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/9/12 Yann Forget :
>> Thomas Dalton wrote:
>>> While that is true, it is also important to remember that most people
>>> setting up a chapter have next to no experience of running a
>>> non-profit. They don't know what is and isn't appro
Дана Saturday 12 September 2009 20:03:32 Thomas Dalton написа:
> > People will make bad decisions, estimates, projections, guesses,
> > conclusions sometimes; it happens. We spot them the second time
> > around, once we've realised they're wrong, fix them, and move on.
>
> By that time that harm ma
> But please, not on this list. This list is fine as it is.
Says who?
Mark
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Austin Hair wrote:
> A mailing list, however, is different. A mailing list is a
> conversation. Everyone's been in a conversation where a single person
> dominated, and no matter how smart or charismatic or entertaining he
> may be, dominating a conversation minimizes the chance for other
> peopl
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