Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright?

2009-06-29 Thread Ray Saintonge
K. Peachey wrote: > They might not be, but with that San Francisco bus data issue [1] > happening at the moment, everyone's checking everything these days to > cover their asses. > > [1]. The Battle Over Who Owns Bus Arrival Times: > http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090628/1419595382.shtml > >

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

2009-06-29 Thread Ray Saintonge
Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > Marc, you comment is not very optimistic, but it was a great > incentive to do what I announced above. Hopefully others will be more > encouraged to voice their ideas about other matters, knowing they'll > find a friendly hear and some useful and very welcome feed

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright?

2009-06-29 Thread Domas Mituzas
On Jun 30, 2009, at 3:13 AM, Aude wrote: > Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics tool does not indicate > copyright or license status, so it's not clear if I can include a > chart on a > Wikipedia page. Does anyone know the license status for the charts? base data is in public domain

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

2009-06-29 Thread Ray Saintonge
Steven Walling wrote: > 1. You're wrong. Just today I myself received some kind words offlist, but > related to a thread. Just because you're not getting the air of friendliness > you desire (at this moment anyway), doesn't mean friendliness doesn't exist. > Getting friendly words offlist, says

[Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

2009-06-29 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Thanks for the comments from Marc, Nathan and Steven. I'm hurrying this response in an attempt to keep the subject alive for a little longer and generate some interest from others. Marc, you comment is not very optimistic, but it was a great incenti

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright?

2009-06-29 Thread K. Peachey
> Facts aren't usually copyrightable and I doubt database rights apply > (I don't know much about them, though), so it's just the presentation > of the data in a chart that could potentially be protected. If you > take the numbers and produce your own chart you'll be absolutely fine. > I'm not sure

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

2009-06-29 Thread Steven Walling
1. You're wrong. Just today I myself received some kind words offlist, but related to a thread. Just because you're not getting the air of friendliness you desire (at this moment anyway), doesn't mean friendliness doesn't exist. 2. It's a mailing list for discussion and debate, not an outlet for p

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

2009-06-29 Thread Nathan
The most significant problem, Virgilio, is that there isn't too much people on this list can do. Unless and until problems become so clear that steward or Foundation action are obviously called for, there is unlikely to be much concrete action at all. Since we can't impose a solution to the problem

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

2009-06-29 Thread Marc Riddell
on 6/29/09 8:35 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado at v...@fct.unl.pt wrote: > Talking about antisocial... It's quite interesting what I experienced > in this very list. > > I wasn't aware of the study published in the New Scientist until I > read about it here on the list, and appreciate the information

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

2009-06-29 Thread Sage Ross
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Is this blog syndicated on either of the two ? That would be the obvious > thing to get it read :) > Thanks, >     GerardM Yes, the blog is syndicated on both open.wikiblogplanet.com and en.planet.wikimedia.org. The blog basically s

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright?

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/30 Aude : > Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics tool does not indicate > copyright or license status, so it's not clear if I can include a chart on a > Wikipedia page.  Does anyone know the license status for the charts? > > http://stats.grok.se/ Facts aren't usually copyrightable

[Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

2009-06-29 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Talking about antisocial... It's quite interesting what I experienced in this very list. I wasn't aware of the study published in the New Scientist until I read about it here on the list, and appreciate the information very much. Earlier this month I wrote about my perception of the same inadeq

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright?

2009-06-29 Thread Aude
Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics tool does not indicate copyright or license status, so it's not clear if I can include a chart on a Wikipedia page. Does anyone know the license status for the charts? http://stats.grok.se/ -Aude ___ founda

[Foundation-l] Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects

2009-06-29 Thread Erik Moeller
After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with limitations, has now been im

[Foundation-l] demande d'inscription

2009-06-29 Thread Said Hadraj
Bonjor j'ai l'honneur de vous demander de bien vouloir m'nscrire -- Hadraj Said ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikizine at foundaiton-l?

2009-06-29 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Walter Vermeir wrote: > Bence Damokos schreef: >> It's a magnificent idea in my opinion, as well. Just make sure, please, that >> you include a prominent unsubscribe link in the first couple of issues, so >> those who are subscribers of this list as well as Wikizine

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

2009-06-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Is this blog syndicated on either of the two ? That would be the obvious thing to get it read :) Thanks, GerardM 2009/6/29 phoebe ayers > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Gerard > Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > > The signpost is something of the English Wikipedia. I do not frequent > there

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikizine at foundaiton-l?

2009-06-29 Thread Walter Vermeir
Bence Damokos schreef: > It's a magnificent idea in my opinion, as well. Just make sure, please, that > you include a prominent unsubscribe link in the first couple of issues, so > those who are subscribers of this list as well as Wikizine can unsubscribe > the duplicate copy. > > Best, > Bence A

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikizine at foundaiton-l?

2009-06-29 Thread Bence Damokos
It's a magnificent idea in my opinion, as well. Just make sure, please, that you include a prominent unsubscribe link in the first couple of issues, so those who are subscribers of this list as well as Wikizine can unsubscribe the duplicate copy. Best, Bence 2009/6/29 Rjd0060 > I also think it

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikizine at foundaiton-l?

2009-06-29 Thread Rjd0060
I also think it's a good idea. It contains a lot of useful information and would be valuable for subscribers to this list. --- Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Cary Bass wrote: > David Gerard wrote: > > 2009/6/28 Walter Vermeir : > > > > > >> Probaly useful for

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikizine at foundaiton-l?

2009-06-29 Thread Cary Bass
David Gerard wrote: > 2009/6/28 Walter Vermeir : > > >> Probaly useful for those who do not know it; an expamle >> > > > It comes out infrequently enough that I suggest that posting it here > regularly would be an excellent idea. Could generate discussion, too. > And reader submissions! > >

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

2009-06-29 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The signpost is something of the English Wikipedia. I do not frequent there. > Also you are wrong on principles when you expect people of this list to give > the English Wikipedia all their attention. This is after all the foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

2009-06-29 Thread Steven Walling
Okay, I have to say that this whole thread makes us all look a little silly. Let it be known everlastingly that *this*is why we don't say "the Wikipedia."' Sheesh. Steven On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, phoebe ayers wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

2009-06-29 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/6/28 Samuel Klein : >> Wikipedia does not take an article, nor does Wikimedia. > > As far as I'm concerned "Wikimedia" doesn't exist as a proper noun. > It's just an adjective: "the Wikimedia Foundation", "the Wikimedia > movement", "the

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia in the UK

2009-06-29 Thread Michael Peel
What Wikimedia events or activities would you like to see take place in the UK? We're currently trying to pull together ideas for "initiatives" that Wikimedia UK can support, at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Proposals There have been lots of ideas posted at: http://uk.wikimedia.org/

Re: [Foundation-l] Video and subtitles

2009-06-29 Thread Brian
http://metavid.org/wiki/ http://metavid.org/wiki/MetaVidWiki_Software http://metavid.org/wiki/MetaVidWiki_Features_Overview On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I am at the moment at a book sprint about Open Translation Tools. One of > the > topics in the books is how

Re: [Foundation-l] Video and subtitles

2009-06-29 Thread Michael Dale
The SubPLY system is for kaltura's open source flash based solution. The ogg based solution is different... Any solution deployed on wikimedia projects should of course be open source... Clearly more work is to be done on multi-lingual support but you can see an example of non-congress-video wik

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

2009-06-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The signpost is something of the English Wikipedia. I do not frequent there. Also you are wrong on principles when you expect people of this list to give the English Wikipedia all their attention. This is after all the foundation list. Thanks. GerardMM 2009/6/29 Ray Saintonge > Tisza G