[Foundation-l] Wikizine at foundaiton-l?

I think that it is very on topic and that we should have it here. What do others think? I know that a lot of foundation-l subscribers are Wikizine subscribers, too; but I think that many are not because they don't know that it exists. And this will be the constant issue: All newcomers will know fo

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

2009/6/27 Phil Nash : > 1. Small sample, making statistical significance difficult to assess It's big enough to get some results. The ones across gender lines are more questionable. > 3. If the questionnaire isn't published, it's incapable of independent > analysis for bias in the questions aske

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> >>> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online >>> social >>> production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the >>> character >>> traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research >>> psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians an

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia >> picnic to >> break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty >> accurate to me. >> >> DM > > And, until that changes, the Project wi

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Eddie Tejeda wrote: >> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social >> production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the >> character >> traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research >> psychologist

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Eddie Tejeda wrote: > 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social > production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character > traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research > psychologists gave pe

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

Marc Riddell wrote: >> on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia >>> picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the >>> conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. >>> >>> DM >> >> And, until th

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: > While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to > break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty > accurate to me. > > DM And, until that changes, the Project will grow only

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. DM On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > I concur with Phil. That thing is more press stunt than it is a conclu

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

I concur with Phil. That thing is more press stunt than it is a conclusive scientific study. The key thing that makes me discount it is, just like in a survey of articles, Wikipedia as a community is both gargantuan and diverse. The motivation and character of the long tail of contributors who stea

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

>> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social >> production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the >> character >> traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research >> psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 >> no

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

Eddie Tejeda wrote: >> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online >> social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of >> the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of >> Israeli research psychologists gave personality tests to 69 >> Wikip

Re: [Foundation-l] Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > OK.  So let's drop the 'legal scholarship' from the original thread > and get back on topic. > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > >> off-topic?? ... surely you jest!! >> >> I think about _three_ of the 50+ emails in th

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social > production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the > character > traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research > psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 > non-Wikip

[Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 non-Wikipedians. They

Re: [Foundation-l] Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > > Wikisource is for textual sources, not videos or files in general - > that's Wikimedia Commons. The video and other media is usually uploaded onto Commons, but the transcript and translations are placed on Wikisource. Speeches are a very la

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] The edit heard round the world

Anyone able to help with this? (Durova's been doing a lot of restoration work on Commons. There has also been discussion on wikien-l about crediting restorers - there's frequently no copyright obligation to credit restorers, but doing so is (a) polite (b) more accurate sourcing (c) encourages more

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

2009/6/27 Unionhawk : > "Wikipedia" and "the Foundation" sounds right to me. When in doubt, if it > sounds right, it probably is. German grammar, I can't help you... Dieser > Benutzer *hat keine > Deutschkenntnisse > *. "The Foundation" is an interest

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Gray > wrote: > >> (Perhaps Britannica gets it because "Encyclopedia" is a common word - >> we'd feel silly with the sentence "I looked it up in Encyclopedia >> Britannica", because "I looked it up in ency

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

2009/6/27 Anthony : > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Gray > wrote: > >> (Perhaps Britannica gets it because "Encyclopedia" is a common word - >> we'd feel silly with the sentence "I looked it up in Encyclopedia >> Britannica", because "I looked it up in encyclopedia" would itself be >> w

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Gray wrote: > (Perhaps Britannica gets it because "Encyclopedia" is a common word - > we'd feel silly with the sentence "I looked it up in Encyclopedia > Britannica", because "I looked it up in encyclopedia" would itself be > wrong) I don't have a problem

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:37, Michael Snow wrote: > There are some situations where you would use the definite article for > singular proper nouns, such as with some geographical names, or when the > name is actually a combination of common and proper nouns. I would also use the definite artic

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

"Wikipedia" and "the Foundation" sounds right to me. When in doubt, if it sounds right, it probably is. German grammar, I can't help you... Dieser Benutzer *hat keine Deutschkenntnisse *. On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > When I

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

When I look into Duden Die Grammatik, this authoritative reference work about German grammar says that proper names (Angela, Berlin, Christmas) don't get an article: "Hamburg liegt an der Elbe." But it mentions many exceptions, like for rivers who actually do get an article (such as "die Elbe"). An

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

2009/6/27 Michael Snow : > Ziko van Dijk wrote: >> Hello, >> Could someone explain to me why "Wikipedia" is without definite >> article? In English you say "the Britannica", so why not "the >> Wikipedia"? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and >> non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

Let's just cut to the point; it's pretty much the same reason we don't abbreviate as wiki; just thinking about somebody calling Wikipedia "the Wikipedia" makes my head hurt... --Unionhawk On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > Ziko van Dijk wrote: > > Hello, > > Could someone exp

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > Could someone explain to me why "Wikipedia" is without definite > article? In English you say "the Britannica", so why not "the > Wikipedia"? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and > non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article, although we say "der > Brockha

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

I've always assumed it's because websites are locations... not things. You don't say "go to the google" or "go to the wikipedia" for the same reason you do not say "go to the new york" or "go to the london" -- Eddie A. Tejeda On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > Co

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

2009/6/27 Ziko van Dijk : > Hello, > Could someone explain to me why "Wikipedia" is without definite > article? In English you say "the Britannica", so why not "the > Wikipedia"? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and > non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article, although we say "der > Br

Re: [Foundation-l] Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository

On 26 Jun 2009, at 02:08, Samuel Klein wrote: > Wikimedia currently doesn't like files as large as a feature film, or > even a high-def short. (how should we address this? Brion mentioned > something about making video easier to upload in November.) As I understand it, there are three issues wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

2009/6/27 Ziko van Dijk : > Hello, > Could someone explain to me why "Wikipedia" is without definite > article? In English you say "the Britannica", so why not "the > Wikipedia"? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and > non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article, although we say "der > Br

Re: [Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

Hoi, When you talk about the wikipedia, it indicate in my appreciation this authoritative instance. There is no such thing as *the* authoritative Wikipedia. While many consider the English Wikipedia as such, it is very much the German Wikipedia that pioneered the use of Flagged Revision, it is the

[Foundation-l] Why "Wikipedia" and not "the Wikipedia"?

Hello, Could someone explain to me why "Wikipedia" is without definite article? In English you say "the Britannica", so why not "the Wikipedia"? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article, although we say "der Brockhaus". Kind regards Ziko -- Ziko

Re: [Foundation-l] GFDL-only + OTRS

Hoi, It is not obvious because a viral license assumes that all other content will be contiminated with the same license. Hence when GFDL only is incompatlible with our projects this material cannot be used in our projects. This defeats the objective of Commons. This should be obvious and hence it