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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
> On Thursday 25 December 2008 03:34, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>> Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
>>> I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling
>>> their stories constitutes "taking partisan sides in polit
> On Thursday 25 December 2008 03:30, Ray Saintonge wrote:
>> One doesn't become truly educated when someone is playing games with
>> one's emotions. That just breeds true believers and more victims of
>> patriotic folly. Stalin died in 1953, and while there might have been
>> some justification
On Thursday 25 December 2008 03:34, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
> > I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling
> > their stories constitutes "taking partisan sides in political disputes."
> > It's educating people about the impact of these events,
On Thursday 25 December 2008 03:30, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> One doesn't become truly educated when someone is playing games with
> one's emotions. That just breeds true believers and more victims of
> patriotic folly. Stalin died in 1953, and while there might have been
> some justification for su
Beste Erik,
Kan gebeuren, ik verwacht des te meer met spanning de nieuwe cijfers. Goed
dat je het even nog hebt gemeldt, want ik was al een bijdraag voor een
maillinglist aan het schrijven over de heel lage cijfers voor Duitse nieuwe
wikipedianen.
Erik, het was mooi om je te leren kennen, en in 20
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Brian wrote:
> Interesting. I realize that the dump is extremely large, but if 7zip is
> really the bottleneck then to me the solutions are straightforward:
>
> 1. Offer an uncompressed version of the dump for download. Bandwidth is
> cheap and downloads can be res
> Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
>> I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and
>> telling their
>> stories constitutes "taking partisan sides in political disputes."
>> It's
>> educating people about the impact of these events, plain and simple.
>>
> If we cannot present the person
> Stalin died in 1953, and while there might have been
> some justification for such a project while he was still in power, now
> it is nothing more than picking at old scabs to see if they will bleed.
> What Stalin did cannot be undone, but understanding the importance of
> those events in world h
> 2008/12/25 Fred Bauder :
>
>>> Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
>>> fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
>
>> Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of
>> cemetery.
>
>
> I suspect it would turn into a universal biographical di
> 2008/12/25 Ian A. Holton :
>
>> I do however believe that such a project is a good idea and also
>> believe
>> that it being hosted outside of the WMF might even be benefitial and
>> might
>> even be worth an organisation itself if the scope is extended to cover
>> more
>> than "just" the victims
There is something seriously wrong with the figures for some wikipedias in
the new wikistats reports. The figures for some wikis are much too low. When
comparing csv files (raw counts) produced in May 2008 and produced recently
it is quite easy to tell the difference. For some wikis the data for mo
2008/12/25 Ian A. Holton :
> I do however believe that such a project is a good idea and also believe
> that it being hosted outside of the WMF might even be benefitial and might
> even be worth an organisation itself if the scope is extended to cover more
> than "just" the victims of one regime,
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder :
>> Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
>> fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
> Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery.
I suspect it would turn into a universal biographical dictionary. But
On 12/25/08, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> It is not one either. It has been said repeatedly that the process of a
> straightforward back up is something that is done on a regular basis. This
> however includes a lot of information that we do not allow to be included in
> the data export that is
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Fred Bauder wrote:
> >> Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
> >> fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
> >>
> > Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery.
> >
> >
> M
Fred Bauder wrote:
>> Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
>> fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
>>
> Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery.
>
>
Maybe it would be better to start the project on Wikia. That wou
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
> I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling
> their
> stories constitutes "taking partisan sides in political disputes." It's
> educating people about the impact of these events, plain and simple.
>
If we cannot present the personal tr
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2008 11:02, David Gerard wrote:
>
>> Yes. However, it could be a valuable wiki to create privately. Generic
>> hosting is (a) really cheap (b) often includes MediaWiki out the box.
>> The wiki is unlikely to be vastly overloaded, so cheap host
Fred Bauder wrote:
>> Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial
>> project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his concerns about the
>> motives behind this proposal.
>>
>
> I think half a dozen might do, one for the victims of Hitler, one for the
> victims
Fred Bauder wrote:
>> I must agree with Mr Gerard, and taking that position, or any position
>> by the Foundation is a road I don't want to see WMF go down. I don't
>> want WMF to alienate anyone... anyone. The information must be free,
>> and global. For everyone.
>>
>> Please don't intrepet th
David Gerard wrote:
> 2008/12/25 Fred Bauder
>> If we stood for something, it might serve to invigorate.
>>
> You mean, taking a particular political position? I don't see that in
> the mission.
>
You have to admit that debate would be greatly invigorated.
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