Re: [Foundation-l] GFDL 1.3 Release

2008-12-11 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2008/12/3 Milos Rancic : >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >>> 2008/11/3 Erik Moeller : More information will follow later this month as we develop the re-licensing proposal. Let me know if you have any immediat

Re: [Foundation-l] "wiki (usability) summer" - like google summer of code?

2008-12-11 Thread Tim Starling
Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > When you consider that the WMF and its projects have not benefited from > Betawiki and its functionality, then you prove again for how little > internationalisation and localisation count within MediaWiki development. > Consistently you will find Siebrand or Nikerabb

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding the one million dollar usability grant and already extant but unused extensions

2008-12-11 Thread Angela
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:58 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Angela wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >>> > http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/wikia/branches/wysiwyg will be >>> Is it a MediaWiki fork or just an extension? If it is a fork,

[Foundation-l] Categorization of Bundesarchiv pictures

2008-12-11 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, We now see that there are much more non German persons on the pictures from Bundesarchiv. Please have a look and help us with the categorization. You may start from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_the_German_Federal_Archive and have a look by year or searching via Ge

Re: [Foundation-l] Some Ideas About Technical Stuff/Community Relations Improvements

2008-12-11 Thread Brion Vibber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brion Vibber wrote: > Please see my reply on wikitech-l. :) Archive link: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-December/040611.html (Cross-posting is great for announcements, but trouble for discussions... :D) - -- brion -BEGIN P

Re: [Foundation-l] Some Ideas About Technical Stuff/Community Relations Improvements

2008-12-11 Thread Cary Bass
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brion Vibber wrote: > Please see my reply on wikitech-l. :) > > -- brion http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-December/040611.html for the list-impaired. - -- cary -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment

Re: [Foundation-l] Some Ideas About Technical Stuff/Community Relations Improvements

2008-12-11 Thread Brion Vibber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please see my reply on wikitech-l. :) - -- brion -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklBi9kACgkQwRnhpk1wk448zgCglH2kYGVgYK9OH86J1SSLPs0C PrcAoN2WXXns

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread Mark (Markie)
gotta keep the pointless emails up or people say were dying away.. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Isabell Long wrote: > Oh no, please don't start this. Think of the topic people, think of the > topic! > > > -- > Regards, > Isabell Long. > [[User:Isabell121]] on all public Wikimedia proj

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread Isabell Long
Oh no, please don't start this. Think of the topic people, think of the topic! -- Regards, Isabell Long. [[User:Isabell121]] on all public Wikimedia projects. OpenPGP Key ID: C395CE07 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org U

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread Dan Rosenthal
I surf the intartubes on my way to the information superhighway. -Dan On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:00 PM, David Yellope wrote: > My favorite word is the Intrawebz > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread David Yellope
My favorite word is the Intrawebz ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/11 Chad : > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:44 PM, KillerChihuahua > wrote: > >> Don't forget intranets. >> > > Hehe, this is a real one. Intranet is just a private network, so there > actually are quite a few intranets out there :) Back in the good old days there were multiple internets too, th

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread Chad
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:44 PM, KillerChihuahua wrote: > Don't forget intranets. > Hehe, this is a real one. Intranet is just a private network, so there actually are quite a few intranets out there :) -Chad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread KillerChihuahua
Don't forget intranets. David Gerard wrote: > 2008/12/11 Cary Bass : > > >> And sometimes even pluralized, like "I was searching through your >> internets" >> > > > "intarwebs", get it right! > > > - d. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > found

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/11 Cary Bass : > And sometimes even pluralized, like "I was searching through your > internets" "intarwebs", get it right! - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom

2008-12-11 Thread Cary Bass
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jesse Plamondon-Willard wrote: > Jay Walsh wrote: >> Internet ... internet ... internet ... internet ... internet ... >> Internet ... Internet > > "Internet" should be capitalized as a proper noun, but is also > commonly written lowercase (like "the s

Re: [Foundation-l] "wiki (usability) summer" - like google summer of code?

2008-12-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you consider that the WMF and its projects have not benefited from Betawiki and its functionality, then you prove again for how little internationalisation and localisation count within MediaWiki development. Consistently you will find Siebrand or Nikerabbit as top developers for creating

Re: [Foundation-l] "wiki (usability) summer" - like google summer of code?

2008-12-11 Thread Chad
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Hoi, > Last year Nikerabbit was enrolled in a Finnish Summer of Code project. He > did a ton of great work for Betawiki as part of this project. The Liquid > Threads project was a GSOC project. It is used by the WikiEd

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability: Is our vocabulary SNAFU?

2008-12-11 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Platonides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It surprised me that the jargon didn't mention the really wikimedian > terms: AGF, RFA, NPV, NOR, NLT, BLP, NPA, AFD, db... > > After IAR and BOLD, you're blocked for NPA and NLT on a BLP article > where you didn't follow NPV

Re: [Foundation-l] "wiki (usability) summer" - like google summer of code?

2008-12-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Last year Nikerabbit was enrolled in a Finnish Summer of Code project. He did a ton of great work for Betawiki as part of this project. The Liquid Threads project was a GSOC project. It is used by the WikiEducator project and as such I would rate it successful. When you look at our own bigger

Re: [Foundation-l] "wiki (usability) summer" - like google summerof code?

2008-12-11 Thread Martin Pascal
Dear all, If there is a summer of code, could you contact us , because we have just making this offline reader : http://download.kiwix.org ==> it will be available for all the project of the WMF, when all the zenos files are creating. http://www.wikiwix.com/ ==> it s our search engine availabl

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding the one million dollar usability grant and already extant but unused extensions

2008-12-11 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a question in the wrong order, the first question should be do you > think that the WMF projects will benefit from this. The second question > would be what does it take to make this happen. Wikia has had much more

Re: [Foundation-l] "wiki (usability) summer" - like google summer of code?

2008-12-11 Thread Andrew Whitworth
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tim Starling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GSoC has never produced anything useful for us, so I don't know why you > think it would be a good model. But it has produced useful results for a number of other open source software communities, so I don't think it's pru

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding the one million dollar usability grant and already extant but unused extensions

2008-12-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is a question in the wrong order, the first question should be do you think that the WMF projects will benefit from this. The second question would be what does it take to make this happen. Wikia has had much more incentive to concentrate on usability. It has many wikis that demonstrate the

Re: [Foundation-l] "wiki (usability) summer" - like google summer of code?

2008-12-11 Thread Tim Starling
THURNER rupert wrote: > hi, > > on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2008 there was a > statement that such efforts are restricted by "mentoring-manpower". > > now that there are real people and a budget dedicated to improve > usability, could it make sense to leverage that effort by b

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding the one million dollar usability grant and already extant but unused extensions

2008-12-11 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Angela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Milos Rancic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/wikia/branches/wysiwyg will be >> Is it a MediaWiki fork or just an extension? If it is a fork, up to >> which extent

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding the one million dollar usability grant and already extant but unused extensions

2008-12-11 Thread Angela
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Milos Rancic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/wikia/branches/wysiwyg will be > Is it a MediaWiki fork or just an extension? If it is a fork, up to > which extent it is compatible with the main MediaWiki? If it is an > extension, wher

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding the one million dollar usability grant and already extant but unused extensions

2008-12-11 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Angela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > example to see what happens to the {{sandbox}} template. Wikia has > been working on WYSIWYG for a long time now, and I hope the code that > is available at > http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/wikia/branches/wysiwyg will be > use

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding the one million dollar usability grant and already extant but unused extensions

2008-12-11 Thread THURNER rupert
particularly i like the table editor. i'd be even tempted to edit on wikia and later copy the table to wikipedia :) rupert. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:07, Angela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2008/12/7 Gerard Meijssen <[E