RE: Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-10-02 Thread Métairie , Stéphane
I think you should not be tensed with this Roadmap, and nobody will spend his time to update a timeline ... the status of the project is sufficient, perhaps more visible would be better. Just my opinion ;) "But people committing, making patches and contributing will." We agree. -Original

Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Dear all, Now, that we have seen the brave, new world of HTML5 designer tools formally announced by Adobe [1] [2], I wonder: What is the current state of designer tools for Apache Flex? I remember that there had been discussions about donating or selling those past designer tools like Flash Ca

Re: Flex CodeScape ...

2012-10-02 Thread Clint Modien
For this type of output you may want to checkout the pre existing compiler option -link-report=AFileName.xml On Sep 28, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Erik Lundgren wrote: > That sounds really cool. > > Some simple structure to start with ... > > somePackage > - - qualifies SomeType > - - - which is a Sup

Re: Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Just chiming into this dead horse. The problem with projects that get donated to Apache from an established Enterprise is what has previously happened in this project, warped perspectives. Roadmaps in the English language say "there are roads to travel". In Apache, we say "roads, who need

Re: Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-10-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Blaine Bradbury wrote: > ...I think it would be EXTREMELY useful to have a device which could show the > current (as close to the present knowledge as is really manageable) > trajectory that the Apache Flex project is taking... >From my experience with other Apache

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Marcos Martinelli Paegle
Don't have a petition for flash builder 4.x? Enviado via iPhone Em 02/10/2012, às 06:01, "Sebastian Mohr" escreveu: > Dear all, > > Now, that we have seen the brave, new world of HTML5 designer tools formally > announced by Adobe [1] [2], I wonder: What is the current state of designer > too

Adobe ASC2.0 and Apache Falcon integration

2012-10-02 Thread hyzhaka
Hello! What about compatibility Apache Falcon and Adobe ASC2.0. Now I have build utils and models classes by Adobe ASC2.0 (for inline and other optimize features), and front-end (mxml) by Apache Falcon, that use ASC2.0-based code as swc-library. Whether it will be available at all times and i

Committing bugs to svn

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hi, I apologize for this but, I have looked in quite a few places and missed the whole release cycle with 4.8. Could someone steer me to emails or something that says how a committer is supposed to take a JIRA task, fix it in their local code base and where to commit that code. I see th

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Nope ... I am seeing Flash Catalyst as being the representation for Adobe's work on the Spark-Component model, FXG and Flash Catalyst (formerly codenamed Thermo) with the Designer-Developer workflow started in 2007 [1]. For whatever reasons it took ages to finish it. If you would want to create

RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Stakesoft
Anything visual to be able to design the UI is better than none, I'll sign anything to support the return of a DV Nigel -Original Message- From: Sebastian Mohr [mailto:masul...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 October 2012 11:46 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Sebastian Mohr : Nope ... I am seeing Flash Catalyst as being the representation for Adobe's work on the Spark-Component model, FXG and Flash Catalyst (formerly codenamed Thermo) with the Designer-Developer workflow started in 2007 [1]. For whatever reasons it took ages to finish it.

Re: Committing bugs to svn

2012-10-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > ...Could someone steer me to emails or something that says how a committer is > supposed to take a JIRA task, fix it in their local code base and where to > commit that code I don't have that info, but if it's buried in emails that's

Re: Committing bugs to svn

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Yeah, that was for people saying I didn't do my homework. :) I'm just a bit confused as to what and where I am committing things with the patches branch there. It doesn't seem like people are committing to trunk. I'm not exactly understanding the mustella tests and "when you have to write

Re: Committing bugs to svn

2012-10-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > ...Maybe someday a committer in the know could put up a wiki page for > committers asking these same questions... Yeah, that's what I meant - if it's important (and this definitely is), that info shouldn't be buried in emails. -Bertrand

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Ent
This is a good opportunity for [someone in] the Apache Flex community to develop such a tool. Using Apache Flex, an AIR app would be able to present UI components rendered correctly, in real-time, and be able to read and write local files. If Adobe does not contribute UI tools, the community can ma

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
I was going to say the exact same thing. I think why people have not said this is because a lot of developers are used to a design view being located "inside" their IDE as with Design View. This is definitely not that hard to do, back in the Flex 2 days I experimented in creating such too

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread charles.monte...@gmail.com
Idea has a plugin with that approach but it doesn't support drag drop design, rather it renders the hand coded mxml and let's you conffigure. Unfortunately still too buggy and again no drag drop design Sent from my Virgin Mobile Android-Powered Device - Reply message - From: "Peter Ent"

Re: Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-10-02 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Blaine Bradbury > > wrote: > > ...I think it would be EXTREMELY useful to have a device which could > show the > > current (as close to the present knowledge as is really manageable) > > trajectory that the A

Re: Committing bugs to svn

2012-10-02 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, There was a vote[1] a while back and it was decided to go with this: http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ With the addition of cherry picking from develop to trunk when making a release. However we've not migrated to git yet so have to commit via SVN. Basically all work n

Re: Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/1/12 11:21 PM, "Métairie, Stéphane" wrote: > This page shown a rudimentary but interesting Roadmap that doesn't come > magically by itself there ;) > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Status+of+Project > > I'm insisting that Decision Maker won't drill down the web site to

Re: Committing bugs to svn

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 5:43 AM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: > Yeah, that was for people saying I didn't do my homework. :) > > I'm just a bit confused as to what and where I am committing things > with the patches branch there. It doesn't seem like people are > committing to trunk. Hopefully you have signe

Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-10-02 Thread Guthmann, Scott
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Blaine Bradbury > wrote: On the Roadmap issue: I think it would be > EXTREMELY useful to have a device which could show the current (as close to > the present knowledge as is really manageable) trajectory that the Apache > Flex project is > taking. > ___

Re: Committing bugs to svn

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 3:42 AM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: > > Looking through some of the JIRA bugs, I know some probably can't be > fixed from experience, can I close them or do I have to create a > dialog(comment) on the bug first to see if it would get any responses. I would provide detail why it ca

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Charles Monteiro
> > Now if we get some revolution going with AS -> JS compiling that is not > using the Flash API, then it's time to really start thinking about a design > inspector. ;-)Now if we get some revolution going with AS -> JS compiling > that is not using the Flash API, then it's time to really start thi

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Sebastian Mohr
@Peter Ent ... the missing piece is: Who is working on such a design tool right now? There are Apache Flex designers and developers on this mailing list that see the need to have those tools. > You know, if I was actually making some type of money from Flex right now I > would consider this pr

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 8:55 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > > @Adobe ... what's wrong with continuing building GUI > designer tools for Apache Flex? Is that really something > that is not worth investing into? You already created those > tools. So, why not sharing some of your expertise with the > communi

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Forgot to mention those links about Adobe Brackets [1] [2]. So, when seeing this, it seems to be very easy that Adobe loves to collaborate with the HTML5 folks. What about an open GUI designer tool for Apache Flex? Sincerely Yours, Sebastian Mohr Apache Flex Developer (PPMC), Interaction De

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Charles Monteiro : Now if we get some revolution going with AS -> JS compiling that is not using the Flash API, then it's time to really start thinking about a design inspector. ;-)Now if we get some revolution going with AS -> JS compiling that is not using the Flash API, then it's tim

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 9:21 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > Forgot to mention those links about Adobe Brackets [1] [2]. > So, when seeing this, it seems to be very easy that Adobe > loves to collaborate with the HTML5 folks. What about an > open GUI designer tool for Apache Flex? > Yes, that is a project t

RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Marcos Martinelli Paegle
I dream of Flex running on a JVM, is possible? That would be really cool ... > From: aha...@adobe.com > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:24:59 -0700 > Subject: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools > > > > > On 10/2/12 9:21 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > > > Forgot to

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
This whole conversation is really making want to check out what Google is doing in the UI designer plugin (source code). Note; This is another reason why this probably won't happen, more than one IDE, people have love/hate relationships with them all. So who do you make happy? I'm sure th

RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Stakesoft
Technical issues aside I suspect there a good few of us that rely on design views (and we are not all noobs). Many are supporting not having a DV as they don't use it and that's fine for them but a bit of a disaster for others. There are IDE's with DV's and those without - the best in my mind al

RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread BentBit Apache-Flex
Hello, I use design view to "preview" elements of my Flash Builder project. Previewing makes the design workflow much faster because I can see how the project is going to look. I rarely rely on design view to make actual changes to my projects because it is slow and unreliable. Wo

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Charles Monteiro
If that's all you need I would again check out Intellij IDEA Flash design viewer plugin, that's exactly what it does, it even allows for configuring of attributes though selecting the correct entity is buggy, doing a "preview" is not On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:04 PM, BentBit Apache-Flex wrote: > H

RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Stakesoft
That's all very well but (DV aside) FB is far better and we are used to it. It's not very useful to run 2 IDE's alongside otherwise we could use FB4.6 and FB4.7 nor is it a forward step to use a different IDE. Wanting another IDE to get better just because the Adobe one has just got worse is so

RE: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Stakesoft : That's all very well but (DV aside) FB is far better and we are used to it. It's not very useful to run 2 IDE's alongside otherwise we could use FB4.6 and FB4.7 nor is it a forward step to use a different IDE. Wanting another IDE to get better just because the Adobe on

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 10:30 AM, "Stakesoft" wrote: > That's all very well but (DV aside) FB is far better and we are used to it. > It's not very useful to run 2 IDE's alongside otherwise we could use FB4.6 and > FB4.7 nor is it a forward step to use a different IDE. I agree. I've been wondering if it is

Flex Linux support

2012-10-02 Thread Robert Szabo
I have been looking into this and am currently searching for linux support. I have been using FlexBuilder for Linux, then I ended up going to fb4linux (http://code.google.com/p/fb4linux/) for the 4.5 SDK with eclipse-indigo as Adobe stopped supporting linux when it introduced FlashBuilder. Th

Re: Flex Linux support

2012-10-02 Thread aYo ~
Hi Robert, There are a number of us here who are in the same boat with you. I regretfully have to tell you that moving your development to windows seems to be the only option at the moment if you want to take advantage of all the new features being developed. I have explored all the options you hav

Re: Flex Linux support

2012-10-02 Thread Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho
That would be really great! No dia 02/10/2012 20:02, "aYo ~" escreveu: > Hi Robert, > There are a number of us here who are in the same boat with you. I > regretfully have to tell you that moving your development to windows seems > to be the only option at the moment if you want to take advantage

RE: Flex Linux support

2012-10-02 Thread Robert Szabo
Thanks for the response. Being that this is now being moved to an apache license. I do not see why some linux support could not be provided so long as there is enough support for it. Maybe feature lacking but still available. -Original Message- From: aYo ~ [mailto:a...@binitie.com] Sen

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread teotigra
Quoting Alex Harui : You are welcome to open a JIRA ticket for Apache Flex and try to see if you can define requirements in priority order. Remember that this is a volunteer organization so you can't just say "replicate DV". What are the most important aspects of DV? Is one of them IDE integ

Re: Flex Linux support

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 12:16 PM, "Robert Szabo" wrote: > Thanks for the response. > > Being that this is now being moved to an apache license. I do not see why some > linux support could not be provided so long as there is enough support for it. > Maybe feature lacking but still available. FlashBuilder

Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Om
I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk design/architecture now. Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the user interactively drag and drop components, apply layouts, change labels/titles etc. Conceptually, this is simple enough. Th

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 12:56 PM, "Om" wrote: > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk > design/architecture now. > > Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the user > interactively drag and drop components, apply layouts, change labels/title

Re: Flex Linux support

2012-10-02 Thread aYo ~
The real issue is not so much the sdk, even though there are enough hoops to jump through there, the problem is the flash player and air. With features frozen for the L platform, it's impossible to keep at the razor's edge of flash dev on Linux On Oct 2, 2012 8:55 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > > >

Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Ent
I'm not that familiar with writing eclipse plugins, but does anyone know if it is possible to communicate with Eclipse via a socket or some other local communications mechanism? If that were possible, an AIR-based DV tool could exchange information with eclipse. While not a built-in, part of the ID

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Om : I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk design/architecture now. Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the user interactively drag and drop components, apply layouts, change labels/titles etc. Conceptually, this is si

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Om
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 10/2/12 12:56 PM, "Om" wrote: > > > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets > talk > > design/architecture now. > > > > Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the > user > > int

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 1:59 PM, "Om" wrote: >>> 3. Interactive layer: Any object or group of objects in the design area >>> can be selected, resized, rotated, constrained. >> Some alternatives are that each component provides its own interaction and >> tries to utilize a library of interaction widgets

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Om
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Quoting Om : > > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk >> design/architecture now. >> >> Here is a brain-dead architecture design of the AIR app, that lets the >> user >> interactively drag and drop com

Re: Proposal for contributing code from GraniteDS

2012-10-02 Thread Om
Thanks for the detailed responses, Franck. I think this could work and would make a great addition to Flex. PPMC folks, any objections? Or should we take a formal vote on this? What should be the next steps? Thanks, Om On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Franck Wolff wrote: > Om, > > 2012/9/25

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Om : 2. Design area: This would be a container where we will draw the objects I actually wrote a RuledCanvas component 3 years ago that exactly mimicked fireworks interface with the sliding rulers, drag and drop components onto the "floating canvas". I spent about 2 years on it.

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread sumit arora
Hi, I have worked on designing tools using flex and have fairly good understanding of architecture reqd. Please tell me if can help. Regards, Sumit Arora On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Om wrote: > I am very interested in building the design view as an AIR app. Lets talk > design/architecture

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting sumit arora : Hi, I have worked on designing tools using flex and have fairly good understanding of architecture reqd. Please tell me if can help. Regards, Sumit Arora What type of tools are you talking about? Integration into IDEs? Or Flex Applications? Mike -- Michael Schmall

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/12 2:51 PM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: >> The current design view in Flash Builder is implemented as an AIR app. >> Look inside: \Adobe\Adobe Flash Builder >> 4.6\eclipse\plugins\com.adobe.flexbuilder.designview_4.6.0.328916 >> >> I have no idea how it is integrated into Eclipse as a

Re: [VOTE] Release InstallApacheFlex 1.0 - RC5

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
Om, are you working on an RC6? On 9/26/12 1:43 PM, "Om" wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Om wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> I agree the README could make that more explicit. I don't think that >>> let's the Installer off the hook. Al

Re: [VOTE] Release InstallApacheFlex 1.0 - RC5

2012-10-02 Thread Erik de Bruin
I'm back behind a "real" computer, so if he isn't, I'll give it a shot. EdB On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > Om, are you working on an RC6? > > > On 9/26/12 1:43 PM, "Om" wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Om wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Erik de

Re: [VOTE] Release InstallApacheFlex 1.0 - RC5

2012-10-02 Thread Om
I am on it. I will put up a preview for feedback without a vote first. I feelmore feedback would be required. Om On Oct 2, 2012 10:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > I'm back behind a "real" computer, so if he isn't, I'll give it a shot. > > EdB > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Alex Harui

Re: flex.org is infected according to google

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
We'll look into it. On 10/2/12 10:30 PM, "Ardisia Solutions, LLC" wrote: > Hi Flex Community, > > Google is reporting that flex.org is infected ("this site may harm your > computer"). To see for yourself, google "flex.org" and look at the search > results. > > Not sure if this is Adobe's pro

Re: [VOTE] Release InstallApacheFlex 1.0 - RC5

2012-10-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Om wrote: > ...I will put up a preview for feedback without a vote first. > I feelmore feedback would be required IIRC a number of concerns have been about the code/scenarios and not about the release packaging, so I assume people could review the code in svn f

Apache Flex Coding Conventions

2012-10-02 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Does anybody have an idea where the Apache Flex Coding Conventions have been placed? I usually referred to the Adobe Opensource site [1], but, this link is obviously broken. What about adding a Coding Conventions Page to the Wiki [2] ? Sincerely Yours, Sebastian Mohr Apache Flex Developer (P