[jira] [Updated] (FLEX-65) Locale files for Greek Language

2012-06-12 Thread spiros aggelopoulos (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-65?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] spiros aggelopoulos updated FLEX-65: Attachment: formatterValidatorGreek.txt > Locale files for Greek Language > --

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-65) Locale files for Greek Language

2012-06-12 Thread spiros aggelopoulos (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-65?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13293417#comment-13293417 ] spiros aggelopoulos commented on FLEX-65: - Hi Justin, I have already attached a

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > If they make Flash Builder free, that will be awesome. But i know they won't > make it at-least for 2 years. In other case, they should give some of the > testing tools free. like Profiler. I don't know what Adobe is planning in regards to Flash Builder but I'd guess it will be out in 6 m

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Thomas Wawra
nice work v2 is my favourite bg thomas 2012/6/11 Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective : > Here is how it looks made with badge template from adobe website: > http://clients.fusecollective.com/flex/badge/FlexSDK_badge.html -- Mit freundlichem Gruß Thomas Wawra

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, it sounds really weird for me that community (non-payed effort) will be spending time packaging the sdk to work with the "old school" implementation of a payed effort (aka Adobe Flash Builder). Adobe will put their own effort to work with the new SDK, the same as Intellij, FDT, and other IDEs

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-65) Locale files for Greek Language

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-65?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13293443#comment-13293443 ] Justin Mclean commented on FLEX-65: --- Thanks and much appreciated. If you think they would

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Adobe will put heir own effort to work with the new SDK, the same as > Intellij, FDT, and > other IDEs out there. This is, for me, the world upside down... The packager while initially targeted at FB should also work with all the other IDEs as they expect the same files/directory structur

[jira] [Updated] (FLEX-61) AIR version of makeApacheFlexForFlashBuilder for Windows

2012-06-12 Thread spiros aggelopoulos (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] spiros aggelopoulos updated FLEX-61: Attachment: locale_el_GR.txt Greek Locale patch file .(messagestrings.properties)

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-61) AIR version of makeApacheFlexForFlashBuilder for Windows

2012-06-12 Thread spiros aggelopoulos (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13293467#comment-13293467 ] spiros aggelopoulos commented on FLEX-61: - hi Is there any plan to dynamicaly select

Packager IDE and future proofing (AIR 3.2/3.3 FP 11.2/11.3)

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Was just think about the packager IDE and future proofing especially now AIR 3.3 and FlashPlayer 11.3 is out. While it simple enough to change the URLs in the XML file we might as put all known URLs in there to make it easy for a user to edit. Something like: http://airdownload.adobe.com

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-61) AIR version of makeApacheFlexForFlashBuilder for Windows

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13293472#comment-13293472 ] Justin Mclean commented on FLEX-61: --- It would be fairly easy if you were able to compile mu

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Adobe has publicly stated that they will continue to make a version of Flash Builder for the coming future. It is very easy to infer that they will continue to charge for the IDE, as they have in the past. It won't be Flex specific -- rather it will be targeted towards ActionScript developers (it

Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
I'm currently experimenting on how to improve resource management in future Apache Flex versions. It all started when I wanted to mimic the Android IDE (ADT) behavior where ADT automatically creates a class R with static accessors for project resources. E.g. a default Android project has a /src an

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Mr. Rich
Look into FTML for that, it's already built in native for Flex... and much more. On Jun 12, 2012 9:27 AM, "Dirk Eismann" wrote: > I'm currently experimenting on how to improve resource management in > future Apache Flex versions. > > It all started when I wanted to mimic the Android IDE (ADT) beh

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread JP Bader
Just to clarify, it will only be guaranteed to support Flex up through Adobe's last release, 4.6. JP On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > Adobe has publicly stated that they will continue to make a version of > Flash Builder for the coming future.  It is very easy to in

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 6/12/2012 3:49 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: Flash Builder is no longer a part of creative suite which I think is unfortunate. It is listed as being included in the Master Collection and the Creative Cloud on this page: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html Was it

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/11/12 11:37 PM, "sathyamoorthi" wrote: > If they make Flash Builder free, that will be awesome. But i know they > won't make it at-least for 2 years. How do you know this? I don't think that is correct. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Paul Evans
On 12 Jun 2012, at 15:24, Jeffry Houser wrote: > It is listed as being included in the Master Collection and the Creative > Cloud on this page: > http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html > Was it different with CS5.5? It used to be included in CS Web Premium. Now Web and de

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > It is listed as being included in the Master Collection and the Creative > Cloud on this page: > http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html With CS6 it's only included Master Collection not Web Collection (unlike CS5). Initially it wasn't in creative cloud either but i

Re: Flex June Report

2012-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > OK, report posted to incubator wiki.  I did not report on Adobe issues like > what donations are in progress as it seems like the report should focus on > what has actually happened, not what Adobe is promising to do I have edited the

Re: Review after first months of Apache Flex, new guidelines and keeping Flex alive

2012-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Bertrand wrote: > >> Without knowing the current list of issues in detail I tend to agree >> with your view - hence my proposal to dump the current JIRA issues as >> static html files served from an apache.org server > ...How easy would

Re: Flex June Report

2012-06-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/12/12 8:24 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >> OK, report posted to incubator wiki.  I did not report on Adobe issues like >> what donations are in progress as it seems like the report should focus on >> what has actually happ

Re: Flex June Report

2012-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Alex, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 6/12/12 8:24 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: >>... I have edited the report at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2012 >> to account for progress on INFRA-4380 and to avoid redundancies with >> the previous report... > It looks

Re: Flex June Report

2012-06-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/12/12 9:14 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > > Would you agree to move those questions to that list? > > -Bertrand That's fine with me. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Om
Dirk, I think this is a fantastic idea. I would love to help out. Every time I work with resource bundles, I keep having similar thoughts. I never took a chance to write it out so clearly like you have done. What I dont get is why we would need a FB/Eclipse plugin if we manage to make these ch

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Om
One feature I would like added is to assign a master resource file. I have had scenarios where I start out with en_US and get other locales created by manually copying a bundle or use the copylocale util. But once I start adding new strings to en_US, the other bundles have to be manually kept in

Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-65) Locale files for Greek Language

2012-06-12 Thread Om
You could use the copylocale command line util found in the \bin folder. Usage: copylocale en_US el_GR This creates a copy of all the resource bundles used in the sdk. You can just grep for all the el_GR folders and just modify the strings in each resource file. The util also compiles the newly

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
> I think this is a fantastic idea.  I would love to help out.  Every time I > work with resource bundles, I keep having similar thoughts.  I never took a > chance to write it out so clearly like you have done. good to know. Actually, for years (literally) I wanted to improve this stuff and had su

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/12/12 11:47 AM, "Om" wrote: > Dirk, > > I think this is a fantastic idea. I would love to help out. Every time I > work with resource bundles, I keep having similar thoughts. I never took a > chance to write it out so clearly like you have done. > > What I dont get is why we would ne

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hi Om, > My proposal, is to at least show compiler warnings if other locales dont > have matching strings for each entry in the 'master' bundle. having compiler warnings for missing keys sounds good - but this is maybe a bit inconsisten with the runtime behaviour: IIRC, if you compiled the SWF w

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hi Alex, > IMO, something like an "R" class should not be put into the compiler or the > IDE.  The compiler should be as framework agnostic as possible.  It is > probably possible to create a set of classes that do what R does. maybe I misuderstand you here, but to get compile time code hinting i

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Om
> > What I dont get is why we would need a FB/Eclipse plugin if we manage to > > make these changes to the compiler. As you example points out, a valid > > class would be created in the src path. This would take care of the > > auto-complete requirements, right? All IDEs should be able to work w

RE: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Gordon Smith
> only Strings. I always found it strange to have Embeds and ClassReferences in > .properties files. Nobody ever needs to localize an embedded image? - Gordon -Original Message- From: Dirk Eismann [mailto:bort...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:47 PM To: flex-dev@incub

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Greg Lafrance
Its possible you might "localize" an image, sound file, video file, css, etc. Strings only is so 1990's :-) On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > > only Strings. I always found it strange to have Embeds and > ClassReferences in .properties files. > > Nobody ever needs to localiz

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
> Dirk, why would this cause inconsistent behavior? ok, maybe I chose the wrong wording here. Not inconsistent, just different :-) Anyways, having compiler warning for missing keys sounds good. Dirk.

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/12/12 12:47 PM, "Dirk Eismann" wrote: > Hi Alex, > >> IMO, something like an "R" class should not be put into the compiler or the >> IDE.  The compiler should be as framework agnostic as possible.  It is >> probably possible to create a set of classes that do what R does. > > maybe I mi

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Om
> > To me, the most important thing to get right is the run-time > implementation. > Once we nail that, someone will figure out how to get you something like > code-hinting. > Just to be clear, the benefit is not only code-hinting, it is also compile time error checking. If a key does not appear

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/12/12 3:39 PM, "Om" wrote: > Yes, we do bake classes for these bundles but still, the implementation is > such that it is useless for autocompletion and compile time checks. From > the docs[1], here is the generated class for a resource bundle in the > current implementation: > > publi

Re: Flex June Report

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > It looks like you removed my monthly plea for decentralized infrastructure. > I had added that the CI server ran out of disk space during the month; JFYI As well are running out of disk space the single windows slave and been out of action for 3-4 times for a few days each. It's currently o

Re: Packager IDE and future proofing (AIR 3.2/3.3 FP 11.2/11.3)

2012-06-12 Thread Om
Justin, I feel loading the config file dynamically when the app runs would be a better option. This way we can continue to support any future revisions by just updating the config xml which would live on our server. What do you think? Thanks, Om On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Justin Mclean w

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > IIRC, if you compiled the SWF with the locale chain ["en_US", "fr_FR"] > and at runtime try to get a key from the fr_FR bundle and that key > does not exist, Flex will try to get the key from the en_US bundle This is normally done via resource chaining [1] and what you would normally do is

Re: Packager IDE and future proofing (AIR 3.2/3.3 FP 11.2/11.3)

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > This way we can continue to support any future revisions by > just updating the config xml which would live on our server. Which assume you have an internet connection which may not always be the case. Remember I added an option to the script so it can copy file locally rather than downloa

Re: Packager IDE and future proofing (AIR 3.2/3.3 FP 11.2/11.3)

2012-06-12 Thread Om
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > This way we can continue to support any future revisions by > > just updating the config xml which would live on our server. > Which assume you have an internet connection which may not always be the > case. Remember I added an opti

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Both implementations are inefficient given how often you tend to look up > strings. You are initializing all of these properties when it isn't even > clear they will be used. I still think you are better off just embedding a > delimited text file and parsing it on the fly. But it still ne

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-12 Thread sathyamoorthi
On 6/12/2012 8:12 PM, Alex Harui wrote: On 6/11/12 11:37 PM, "sathyamoorthi" wrote: If they make Flash Builder free, that will be awesome. But i know they won't make it at-least for 2 years. How do you know this? I don't think that is correct. Alex, :-) . Are you going to give it free t

Clean checked up build is currently failing

2012-06-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, The current build is currently failing with: assets-compile: [mxmlc] Loading configuration file F:\hudson\hudson-slave\workspace\Flex_SDK_build\frameworks\flex-config.xml [mxmlc] F:\hudson\hudson-slave\workspace\Flex_SDK_build\frameworks\flex-config.xml(82): Error: unable to open '