Re: Contributing to Flex Development

2012-01-04 Thread Fréderic Cox
Hi, I have 5 years experience in developing Flex applications but have no experience with OpenSource projects. I'm also interested to see how this will evolve and gradually would like to help out when I'm up to speed with the inner workings of Flex. I think we need to be patient until all the lega

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks, Alex. 2012/1/4 Alex Harui : > The plan is to try to deal with the most obvious and easy licensing issues > and get the most or all of the framework source code in this week.  We'll > finish scrubbing later. Wow, that is very quick! > Getting our automated verification suite in will take l

Incubator report

2012-01-04 Thread Rui Silva
Hi, As many of you I've received an email saying that a report was due today about the Flex incubator status. Is there anything we should do? Best regards, Rui Silva

Re: Contributing to Flex Development

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Abilash, On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Abhilash Krishnan wrote: >... I am Abhilash with 10 years of Java/J2EE hands-on experience and working as > a Software Designer. I am interested in contributing to the flex opensource > development. Please do let me know the JIRA status... Our Apache

Re: [Account]

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Igor Costa wrote: > I am an initial committer for Flex.  Please create an @apache.org account > for me.   I'd like the user id igorcosta. I don't see your iCLA, did you send it as per http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt ? -Bertrand

Re: [Account]

2012-01-04 Thread Hugo Ferreira
Hello, I just subscribe (found the e-mail adress from here: http://www.igorcosta.com/blog/?p=1492) in the mailling list to be about the news. If I'm wrong, please remove my subscription Regards, Hugo. 2012/1/4 Bertrand Delacretaz > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Igor Costa wrote: >

Re: [Account]

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Tink wrote: > I am an initial committer for Flex (the email address used on that list is > stephen.do...@tink.ws, please can that be amended to f...@tink.ws).  Please > create an @apache.org account for me.   I'd like the user id tink. I don't see your iCLA, d

Re: [Account]

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Rui Silva wrote: > I am an initial committer for Flex. Please create an @apache.org account for > mr. I'd like the user id rduartes I don't see your iCLA, did you submit it as per http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt ? -Bertrand

Re: [Account]

2012-01-04 Thread João Fernandes
If you want to unsubscribe the mailinglist just send an email to flex-dev-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org. When you subscribed you got an email with all the info you needed. João Fernandes On 4 January 2012 10:22, Hugo Ferreira wrote: > Hello, > > I just subscribe (found the e-mail adress from

Re: Incubator report

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Rui Silva wrote: > ...As many of you I've received an email saying that a report was due today > about the Flex incubator status. Is there anything we should do?... There's not much to report so far, I've added the relevant info at http://wiki.apache.org/inc

RE: Incubator report

2012-01-04 Thread Rui Silva
Thanks Bertrand. Looking forward to see the project evolve and have plenty of thing to report. Rui Silva -Original Message- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] Sent: quarta-feira, 4 de Janeiro de 2012 10:44 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubator r

[Account]

2012-01-04 Thread Jun Heider
I am an initial committer for Flex.  Please create an @apache.org account for me.   I'd like the user id junheider. [ Jun Heider | Sr. Architect and Development Manager ] [ Abobe Certified Professional, Adobe Certified Instructor, Flex 3 / AIR ACE ][ RealEyes Media, LLC | www.realeyes.com ][ 940 Lo

svn is ready

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, The following users should now be able to commit the flex subtree, feel free to commit something (clever ;-) to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/trunk/SVN-TEST.txt to verify. akpetteroe,bdelacretaz,greddin,wave,aharui,cframpton,dougarthur,frishy,iwo,jeff,jhouser,jrose,junheider

Guide for new committers

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Flex committers, I've just added this info to http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ , will be online soon: If you're a new Apache committer, please read at least the guide for new committers at http://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html Other content from http://www.apache.org/dev can be

[ACCOUNT]

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
I would like; mschmalle as my account name Thanks, Michael Schmalle

Re: svn is ready

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
I seem to be left off the list. Please add when possible: jonbcampos On Jan 4, 2012 5:25 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > Hi, > > The following users should now be able to commit the flex subtree, > feel free to commit something (clever ;-) to > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/t

Re: [ACCOUNT]

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > I would like; > > mschmalle as my account name I don't see your iCLA, did you submit it? Please check http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ for instructions if needed. -Bertrand

Re: [ACCOUNT]

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Bertrand Delacretaz : On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: I would like; mschmalle as my account name I don't see your iCLA, did you submit it? Please check http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ for instructions if needed. -Bertrand I'm sorry about that, no I was

RE: [ACCOUNT]

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: I would like; mschmalle as my account name I don't see your iCLA, did you submit it? Please check http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ for instructions if needed. -Bertrand I'm sorry about that, no I was sending that today, put the cart be

Re: svn is ready

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > I seem to be left off the list. Please add when possible: jonbcampos done. -Bertrand

Re: svn is ready

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
Got it. Thank you again On Jan 4, 2012 8:13 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan Campos > wrote: > > I seem to be left off the list. Please add when possible: jonbcampos > > done. > -Bertrand >

RE: [Account]

2012-01-04 Thread Rui Silva
Hi Bertrand, Sorry, was intending to do that yesterday, but has some issues scanning the document. I've sent it a couple of minutes ago. I would also like to request a change the e-mail used to identify me in the incubator project. Instead of rui.si...@alert-online.com , I would prefer f...@rdu

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Ryan Frishberg
Thanks for the update Alex. I know this may be asking too much, but would it be possible to maintain the SVN history as well? That history is often times invaluable in tracking down bugs and looking for specific fixes. Cheers, Ryan On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Raju Bitter wrote: > Thanks, A

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Carol Frampton
Hi Ryan, We're looking into preserving the history. We're not sure yet whether or not it is feasible for us to do it. If not maybe we can put the repository we pulled from up somewhere on adobe opensource site so the history is still available. Carol -Original Message- From: Ryan Fri

the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Carol Frampton
Hi all, Our website http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ is 'an ugly temporary website'. I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? Carol

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Rick Winscot
Carol, Have you used svnsync? I highly recommend it. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/notes/svnsync.txt Alternatively... you could 'svn log --xml http://url_to_your_repository' to generate an xml commit history. This would allow you to scrub the output as needed... and then inc

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Rick Winscot
Not an initial committer... but I'd be happy to help on this front. -- Rick Winscot On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Hi all, > > Our website > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > I think we need a logo and some basic s

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
Most of the sites look pretty "ugly". It would be nice for someone to do something. Maybe someone with more design skills than I have :) On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Hi all, > > Our website >http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website'

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho
I would like to volunteer for that On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol Frampton" wrote: > Hi all, > > Our website >http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it?

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < hugo@gmail.com> wrote: > I would like to volunteer for that > On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol Frampton" wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Our website > >http://i

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Peter Elst
Sounds like a perfect opportunity to get the community involved - give it a deadline of a week to come up with a proposal and have an open vote on the mailinglist? I'm sure we have some really talented people already on here willing to volunteer but might as well open it up and drive some interest

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho
Maybe I could team up with Rick to get that done, i'll send him an email so we can trade contacts and get work started On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 16:59, Jonathan Campos wrote: > I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with. > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > ...We're looking into preserving the history.  We're not sure yet whether or > not it is feasible for us to do it.  If not maybe we can put the > repository we pulled from up somewhere on adobe opensource site so the > history is still a

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
Peter, Part of me wants to agree, part of me says that if Hugo and Rick are already excited enough to get into it we should just support that. Obviously they are interested enough to already be watching the mailing lists day one. But I'd be happy to see some +1/0/-1's on the subject. I have no pro

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Carol, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > ...Our website >        http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website' It's all my fault ;-) I'm happy to explain how to modify it if people want to add things there now, but as you say: > > I think we

[Account]

2012-01-04 Thread f...@rduartes.net
Hi, I've already sent the ICLA and have asked for an Apache account. But, as I've also requested that my main e-mail address (the one that is listed in the Flex Proposal page) be changed to the one I'm sending this email from, I'm not sure if the request has been correctly processed. Can you ple

RE: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Douglas Arthur
I like the idea of having anyone that wants to submit a design do so, and if more than one decide to submit something within a timeframe then we can vote on it. If it's only Rick and Hugo that submit a design together, then we go with their design by default. - Doug -Original Message-

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
I'm sold :) On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Douglas Arthur wrote: > I like the idea of having anyone that wants to submit a design do so, and > if more than one decide to submit something within a timeframe then we can > vote on it. If it's only Rick and Hugo that submit a design together, then

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread f...@rduartes.net
+1 I think that we need to facilitate as much as possible content maintenance on the page and Apache CMS seems a good enough solution for that. In this particular case I think simple is definitely better. Rui From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" Sent: quarta-fe

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > Peter, > > Part of me wants to agree, part of me says that if Hugo and Rick are > already excited enough to get into it we should just support that. > Obviously they are interested enough to already be watching the mailing > lists day one.

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread João Felipe - Jotaefe
Hello, I also have interest in collaborating with the initiative, I will get in touch with Hugo and Rick to find out how I can help. João Felipe "Jotaefe" Lima http://www.jotaefe.com 2012/1/4 Bertrand Delac

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
+1 vote here for Doug's proposition. Quoting Jonathan Campos : I'm sold :) On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Douglas Arthur wrote: I like the idea of having anyone that wants to submit a design do so, and if more than one decide to submit something within a timeframe then we can vote on it.

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread f...@rduartes.net
In the end, the site is just another part of the project and since the Apache CMS proposed by Bertrand can be based of SVN content, then adding to its design would be a matter of patch proposal and voting. Or am I seeing things wrong? From: "Jonathan Ca

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Dave McAllister
+1 to Greg. Standard -- Dave McAllister Director, Open Source and Standards Core Services, Experience and Technology Organization Adobe Systems, Inc. W: +1 408-536-3881 GC: +1 650-523-4942 Linux Journal Editorial Adviser, http://www.linuxjournal.com On 1/4/12 9:26 AM, "Greg Reddin" wrote:

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Peter Elst
It was just a suggestion - certainly don't mean to undermine the enthusiasm or hold anyone back from getting involved and proposing a logo. What I've seen talking to people in the wider community, there doesn't seem to be a full understanding about the open nature at Apache or a realization that y

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Peter Elst wrote: > It was just a suggestion - certainly don't mean to undermine the enthusiasm > or hold anyone back from getting involved and proposing a logo. Does anyone know if Adobe plans to donate their logo? Greg

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread João Saleiro
> I'd be in favor of anything that can drive interest and participation. I agree with Peter Elst. João Saleiro On 04-01-2012 17:30, Peter Elst wrote: It was just a suggestion - certainly don't mean to undermine the enthusiasm or hold anyone back from getting involved and proposing a logo. W

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Carol, > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: >> ...Our website >>http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ >> >> is 'an ugly temporary website' > > It's all my fault ;-) > > I'm happy to explain how to modify

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho
@Greg i believe i saw something related to adobe donating the logo right to apache ... not sure i'll look into it and try to get you the link where i saw that ( don't remember if it was official though), but if we can propose a logo that might also be interesting if anyone finds any added value for

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Bertrand, It looks like we can get an svn dump. Some questions though: 1) Some of our svn history contains references to revisions as in: "syncing rev 12345 to trunk" or "reverting 12345". My understanding is that these revision numbers will no longer reference anything useful once the dump

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho
Ok i can't see it anymore so i'll assume we don't have clearence to use the flex logo / or base something on that, could anyone clear that with adobe ? On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 17:38, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < hugo@gmail.com> wrote: > @Greg i believe i saw something related to adobe donatin

RE: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Douglas Arthur
As long as you're creating a true dump via "svnadmin dump", it can be loaded with "svnadmin load", thus preserving the history. This will not force the revision number to start over at 0. Revisions will continue to be able to be compared to previous revisions, etc... I'm not sure how it's handl

[ACCOUNT]

2012-01-04 Thread Garth Braithwaite
Apache ID: GarthDB Thanks, Garth

[ACCOUNT]

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Owen
I am an initial committer for Flex. Please create an @apache.org account for me. I'd like the user id gowen. Greg Owen | Adobe Solutions Lead effectiveui m: 303.834.7340

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
I am trying to verify the answer about the icon. Will report back when I find out. Seems like we'd want to add the Apache feather to it somehow? On 1/4/12 10:10 AM, "Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho" wrote: > Ok i can't see it anymore so i'll assume we don't have clearence to use the > flex logo /

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
Yes, I understand that, but if you look in the change log and see that it is a revert of 12345, you will not find 12345 in our code base because the starting number looks like it is going to be much higher, and there is no guarantee that the 12345 I referenced would match to the 12345 you look up.

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Garth Braithwaite
Sorry I'm late to the party. Just joined the mailing list. I'm trying to catch up on all I've missed. I'd like to help out with design if possible. I think it is where I'd be most useful. While we are waiting on the logo I could still help with some wireframes and site design. Any objections?

RE: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-04 Thread Douglas Arthur
I guess I don't totally understand the problem here since my experience with the dump/load commands preserve all of this history. Unless dump/load were previously used on revision ranges, and you no longer have that specific history? - Doug -Original Message- From: Alex Harui [mailto:a

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho
I was thinking about it and got an idea :-) On Jan 4, 2012 6:35 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > I am trying to verify the answer about the icon. Will report back when I > find out. Seems like we'd want to add the Apache feather to it somehow? > > > On 1/4/12 10:10 AM, "Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho"

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
Garth, I would like you to lead the website task because you are a committer, and work with Hugo and Rick since they are interested as well. Thanks, -Alex On 1/4/12 10:45 AM, "Garth Braithwaite" wrote: > Sorry I'm late to the party. > > Just joined the mailing list. > > I'm trying to catch

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho
Fine by me and welcome aboard :) On Jan 4, 2012 6:46 PM, "Garth Braithwaite" wrote: > Sorry I'm late to the party. > > Just joined the mailing list. > > I'm trying to catch up on all I've missed. > > I'd like to help out with design if possible. I think it is where I'd be > most useful. > > Whil

Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hi All, I was just curious if there was any Apache Flex specific information floating around about how duties might be divided on each others strength in relation to our understanding of the SDK. I know there is the official committer information page that Alex provided but has there been

Re: confirm subscribe to flex-dev@incubator.apache.org

2012-01-04 Thread Saravanan G
Confirm On Jan 5, 2012 12:37 AM, wrote: > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the > flex-dev@incubator.apache.org mailing list. > > I'm working for my owner, who can be reached > at flex-dev-ow...@incubator.apache.org. > > To confirm that you would like > > sarav...@gmail.com > > added

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jeffry Houser
Be sure to watch the "What it Means to be an Apache Project" from the Flex Summit, here: http://tv.adobe.com/show/flex-community-summit-december-2011/ My understanding is that we do whatever we want. I don't know how that goes from "chaos" to "release" yet, though. On 1/4/2012 2:12 PM,

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Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Peter Elst
Thats a good point I've not been clear on either - is roadmap discussed on the mailinglist and voted on so there's a bit of structure to what type of things get worked on rather than a random collection of bug fixes and non-related features? - Peter On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Jeffry Houser

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Randy Troppmann
I'll thrown my name into the website initiative, but only if you need an extra hand. Too many cooks spoil the stew. - Randy On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho wrote: > Fine by me and welcome aboard :) > On Jan 4, 2012 6:46 PM, "Garth Braithwaite" wrote: > >> Sorry I'm

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Arthur Lockman
I agree with Peter. There needs to be some kind of structure so we don't en up with some kind of mishmash of features that dont work together. -Arthur --- Arthur Lockman a.rthr.me @arthurlockman Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Peter Elst wrote: > Thats a good point I've not been

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
That is an exact question that I asked at the Flex Summit specifically for the group. Roy Fielding had a great analogy/answer. The main idea is that this is that we are throwing a party, not running a business with free labor. So people need to be energized about what they are doing, they aren't t

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
I'm not sure this made the video from the summit, but Roy Fielding gave me the impression that there are no "roadmaps" in Apache. You work on what you want to work on and commit it. If people don't like it, you get voted down and you have to pull it and adjust it until people like it. If I were

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Fréderic Cox
This makes sense to me if we can also vote on the features of Spoon to influence priority On 04/01/12 21:08, "Jonathan Campos" wrote: >That is an exact question that I asked at the Flex Summit specifically for >the group. > >Roy Fielding had a great analogy/answer. >The main idea is that this is

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Peter Elst wrote: > is roadmap discussed on > the mailinglist and voted on so there's a bit of structure to what type of > things get worked on rather than a random collection of bug fixes and > non-related features? There's a couple of principles about working on

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
While Spoon has some initial committers in the mix, every commit is still bound by the rules of Apache and getting voted out. Obviously everything we do is in the open right in an Apache workspace off of the Apache Flex project. We do have specific big BIG goals that we want to include in the fram

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jonathan Campos : That is an exact question that I asked at the Flex Summit specifically for the group. Roy Fielding had a great analogy/answer. The main idea is that this is that we are throwing a party, not running a business with free labor. So people need to be energized about what

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > Roy Fielding had a great analogy/answer. > The main idea is that this is that we are throwing a party, not running a > business with free labor. So people need to be energized about what they > are doing, they aren't there to be given tasks.

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
These are great questions and many of them that we asked at the Flex Summit. You could also pick off a bug, fix it, get reviewed, and get a committer to submit. The patch would be able to still be voted down if the patch wasn't liked by another committer and discussions would follow. For a new co

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
Let's be clear that Spoon's roadmaps and priorities are independent of the Flex project in the Apache incubator. Several committers to Flex are also Spoon members and they will coordinate with each other and hopefully make major contributions to the Flex project. But if you are a committer and yo

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Leif Wells
+1 to Garth's leadership. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Garth, > > I would like you to lead the website task because you are a committer, and > work with Hugo and Rick since they are interested as well. > > Thanks, > -Alex > > > On 1/4/12 10:45 AM, "Garth Braithwaite" wrot

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Peter Elst
I'm excited to what Spoon can add to the mix and the idea of a plan on your end sounds very appealing to me and gives some guidance to the community. I might be jumping the gun on this and not hoping this happens but how strongly does Spoon feel about its roadmap and would you for example look at

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
I completely agree with Alex. If I made it seem that you had to be part of Spoon or even care about what we care about I miscommunicated. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Let's be clear that Spoon's roadmaps and priorities are independent of the > Flex project in the Apache in

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
You could also pick off a bug, fix it, get reviewed, and get a committer to submit. The patch would be able to still be voted down if the patch wasn't liked by another committer and discussions would follow. I am an initial committer, that is why I am asking these questions. I also agree that

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
I can tell you that we have no interest in splintering the community or our efforts. Like an Apache project we all come together in Spoon from various companies and interests. We've just highlighted a few spots that we all are wanting to develop on a large scale (more than just a bug fix or a few

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Peter Elst wrote: > I'm excited to what Spoon can add to the mix For the uninitiated, what is Spoon? Greg

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
Mike, I can't say for sure what may have happened, but I know that we have been working actively to send out a few newsletters and details when available. With the Flex Summit, and these movements with Apache we've had to be a bit patient waiting for this stuff to be straightened out. Now that thi

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
So for practical reasons, I think we're going to start with commit-then-review. If you try to commit a new component, that commit will be reviewed and vetoed out if there is a problem. So let's get specific. Let's say you want to contribute your version of a Spark TabNavigator component. Adobe

Re: the Flex website

2012-01-04 Thread Erik de Bruin
https://twitter.com/#!/ApacheFlex Just came across this this afternoon. Thought you might like to see it ;-) EdB On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > I am trying to verify the answer about the icon.  Will report back when I > find out.  Seems like we'd want to add the Apache fe

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
@Greg http://www.spoon.as/ Spoon is a nonprofit corporation created by some community members to promote, educate, and contribute to the Flex framework. From the link you can see basic bits of information and specifically read the core values. Some of this data needs to be updated as it was writt

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > So let's get specific.  Let's say you want to contribute your version of a > Spark TabNavigator component.  Adobe has almost finished its version and > promised to commit it.  I would recommend starting a discussion on this list > about whether t

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Greg Reddin
Thanks! On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > @Greg > > http://www.spoon.as/ > > Spoon is a nonprofit corporation created by some community members to > promote, educate, and contribute to the Flex framework. From the link you > can see basic bits of information and specificall

Setting up the Apache CMS (was: the Flex website)

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Dave, On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: ... > I have significant experience using the Apache CMS with the Apache OpenOffice > podling. > > See https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/site/trunk and > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk > > Th

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Alex Harui : Yes Alex this makes sense. I realize the point of Apache is to be democratic by it's very nature. I wouldn't even think about committing any component like code without a huge discussion on it's impact and value with the community first. I was just trying to get the m

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Dirk Eismann
Alex, do you mean "commit-and-review" like in "commit to SVN"? Or is it meant that people contribute the code (through JIRA), tell people on the list about it so the code can get reviewed, voted in/out and eventually comitted to the SVN by some committers? Dirk. 2012/1/4 Alex Harui > So for p

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread João Saleiro
I like choice - being able to choose between "TabNavigator 1" or "TabNavigator 2" -, but I don't think I would be happy if Flex turned into a huge SDK with dozens of similar components. I would prefer if the Flex SDK, instead of a huge library (that, of course, could optionally be downloaded i

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
Well, it would be best if we could agree on one. Fewer choices are generally better for folks in the learning curve. Feel free to start that discussion at any time. I took a brief look at your code and didn't see any obvious problems with it. I don't know the Adobe version that well so at some

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > ...I also think that the list should really have a decent discussion about the > future uses of interfaces and the lack of them in the framework to allow for > customizations through composition instead of subclassing or copy and paste > cr

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Campos
(my first) +1 On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Michael Schmalle > wrote: > > ...I also think that the list should really have a decent discussion > about the > > future uses of interfaces and the lack of them in the framework to allow >

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
My understanding is that some projects require all committers to submit JIRA patches first, so they can get reviewed before commit because reverting commits is painful in many ways and they think the likelihood of bad commits is high because of the complexities involved. I was leaning towards doin

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schmalle
I think adding an interface here or there and allowing alternate implementations makes much more sense than bickering about "which" component should be used. Let me clear up this statement; What I meant to say was "give the user" the ability to make alternate implementations if their applicat

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Fréderic Cox
+1 On 04/01/12 21:54, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: >On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Michael Schmalle >wrote: >> ...I also think that the list should really have a decent discussion >>about the >> future uses of interfaces and the lack of them in the framework to >>allow for >> customizations th

JIRA for Flex should be here soon (was: Committer duties and information)

2012-01-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > ...Because it looks like we won't get JIRA up any time soon, we might start > out > with commit-then-review and I'll just have to try to keep up with reviewing > all of the commits JIRA for Flex should be here soon. I have requested it in

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