Oh, Thank for letting us know!
Joan
The 360|Min posted a recording of this presentation, just for us:
http://www.360stack.com/session-videos/free-session-recording/
On 11/16/2012 10:57 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
In the meantime, make sure you look at the slide deck from Michael
Labriola¹s 360Min presentation on how he is developin
What is the difference between this new Framework and something like GWT or
SharpKit ?
2012/11/19 Michael A. Labriola
> >* You say this could be C#/Java/AS and so on... I think you start in C#
> because you already have that js cross-compiler. You thoughts are about
> making the same in differe
>* You say this could be C#/Java/AS and so on... I think you start in C#
>because you already have that js cross-compiler. You thoughts are about making
>the same in different platform versions in the end?.
That is the goal.
>* I understand that the final goal is that you end programming in you
Hi Mike,
I just saw the slides and it's very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Various thoughts/questions here:
* You say this could be C#/Java/AS and so on... I think you start in C#
because you already have that js cross-compiler. You thoughts are about
making the same in different platform vers
We're not using LLVM in Adobe's AS4 compiler. The new compiler works just like
Falcon's AS3 except it has a somewhat different lexer/parser due to the
syntactic changes, a somewhat different semantic analyzer due to the semantic
changes, and a quite different code generator due to the new byte c
Thanks for the clarification. I knew I saw some stuff about LLVM in one of
the presentations I attended -- I just wasn't sure to what degree.
-Nick
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:
> There are two different Flash related LLVM products at Adobe, afaik.
>
> They have an LLVM
There are two different Flash related LLVM products at Adobe, afaik.
They have an LLVM frontend which takes ABC code and turns that into ARM
code for packing on iPhone. Then there's the Alchemy stuff, which is an
LLVM backend, for generating ABC bytecode from other front ends like C
and C++. T
> I don't think LLVM is involved in Falcon or FalconJS.
That's correct.
- Gordon
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From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 9:47 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: What to expect from FalconJS
On 11/
On 11/17/12 9:17 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/17/12 9:14 PM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote:
>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that is what the existing compiler pretty much is. I know
>> they have mentioned LLMV being involved, but I'm not sure to what point
>> (I'm not experien
On 11/17/12 9:14 PM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> I'm pretty sure that is what the existing compiler pretty much is. I know
> they have mentioned LLMV being involved, but I'm not sure to what point
> (I'm not experienced with this compiler myself...)
I could be wrong, but I don
Kevin,
I'm pretty sure that is what the existing compiler pretty much is. I know
they have mentioned LLMV being involved, but I'm not sure to what point
(I'm not experienced with this compiler myself...)
-Nick
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Kevin Newman wrote:
> I don't know much about comp
I don't know much about compilers, or about how much work it'll be, but
that's my question.
How much work would writing an AS3 front end for LLVM be? I imagine it's
a lot of work.
Adobe did it with ABC bytecode, so it seems it should be theoretically
possible (if a lot of work). There are ba
On 11/17/12 10:01 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote:
> it depends.
> if the plan is to fully transcode flex app in HTML/JS and then use
> cordova to make it run as native app, yes i have reasons to think that
> it will have poor performances, because in the end it is still an
> HTML/JS app.
I have
>What I don't get is, Mike said all these other companies that had compiler
>engineers are not here, meaning they are somewhere else. So Mike has put his
>time working with C# and a cross compiler /JS framework.
Actually, I found a really good cross-compiler from C# to JS that was
extensible. S
it depends.
if the plan is to fully transcode flex app in HTML/JS and then use
cordova to make it run as native app, yes i have reasons to think that
it will have poor performances, because in the end it is still an
HTML/JS app.
if you only use this path for UI, and managed to transcode the log
Seems to me The same philosophy behind haxenme, isn'it?
Haxenme generates native code and projects for each platform...
El sábado, 17 de noviembre de 2012, Joan Llenas Masó escribió:
> I'm not Alex, but IMHO taking into account that most UI code will have to
> be written natively for each outpu
I'm not Alex, but IMHO taking into account that most UI code will have to
be written natively for each output target and that UI code tends to be the
main bottleneck in nowdays apps there's no reason to think that this new
system would output very poor performant code or bytecode.
Also, for very pe
Hi Alex,
do you also have in mind to use HTML/JS as main output before cross
platform achievment (for example using Cordova)?
if so, don't you expect very poor performances with this strategy?
Le 17/11/2012 17:05, Alex Harui a écrit :
On 11/17/12 2:47 AM, "Joan Llenas Masó" wrote:
I thin
On 11/17/12 2:47 AM, "Joan Llenas Masó" wrote:
> I think I'm able to get your point after watching these slides and mixing
> it together with what you mentioned earlier on in another thread.
> So instead of going through direct UI AS3->{MyOutputTargetOfChioce}
> translation we just concentrate
I watched the slides to, he mentioned C#. I saw something on Mike's
Twitter that said he would be getting something in GITHub next week
Joan, I agree his presentation made sense. What you are saying makes
sense to with the view mediator approach, you are completely dumbing
down the view usi
I think I'm able to get your point after watching these slides and mixing
it together with what you mentioned earlier on in another thread.
So instead of going through direct UI AS3->{MyOutputTargetOfChioce}
translation we just concentrate our efforts in the business logic code
translation AS3->{My
>
>> In the meantime, make sure you look at the slide deck from Michael
>> Labriola¹s 360Min presentation on how he is developing apps for HTML. I¹m
>> sure he¹ll reply with the link
>
> Is the slidedeck already pulished somewhere?
>
http://www.slideshare.net/michael.labriola/randori-design-go
> I have been playing around with Falcon JS to help me form an opinion on what
> the next steps are, but I need some sign-offs from folks in Adobe before I
> can make it public
Looking forward to read your opinion.
> In the meantime, make sure you look at the slide deck from Michael
> Labriol
It has been almost a year since we announced Flex would be donated to Apache.
We’ve spent all of this time preparing donations of the code. It has taken
much longer than I would have ever imagined, but we are almost done. The
FalconJS code passed legal review yesterday and just needs a few ot
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