on where things are
graphically intensive.
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From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gosm...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:47 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: To AS4 or not
> regarding the gaming strategy i don't see why Adobe would add
a
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From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:22 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
If you need accessibility on desktop, you can rely on current runtime if you
need new runtime for next mobile targets, do we still h
Gordon
-Original Message-
From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:35 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
Thanks Gordon for you answers,
"but you'd have to rewrite it even if the new VM ran AS3 because t
port the Flex framework if the new runtime doesn't
support things like accessibility that RIAs need?
- Gordon
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From: Tianzhen Lin [mailto:tang...@usa.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:10 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: To AS4 or not
I cannot w
t; - Gordon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tianzhen Lin [mailto:tang...@usa.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:10 PM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: To AS4 or not
>
> I cannot wait to see the specs of AS4, and love to help out porting Flex
- Original Message --
Received: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:02:44 PM EDT
From: Gordon Smith
To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org"
Subject: RE: To AS4 or not
> > Is it a stupide idea to use Falcon to transcode from AS3 to AS4 and
> > then
compile AS4 with adobes compiler? (if we emu
--
Received: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:02:44 PM EDT
From: Gordon Smith
To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org"
Subject: RE: To AS4 or not
> > Is it a stupide idea to use Falcon to transcode from AS3 to AS4 and then
compile AS4 with adobes compiler? (if we emulate or drop the native features
that
mail.com [mailto:carlos.rov...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Carlos Rovira
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:12 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon)
Alex, Gordon,
when we could get more info about AS4? I think this new version of the language
and the new ve
Whether it is realistic, given the lack of people
volunteering to work on the compiler, is questionable in my mind.
- Gordon
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From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:35 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re
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>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:56 AM
>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon)
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>> On 10/19/12 10:52 AM, "João Fernandes"
>> wrote:
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>>> Alex, co
VM is not designed to run AS3.
- Gordon
-Original Message-
From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:50 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
and using Falcon to compile AS3 to generate new VM bytecode?
is it more re
Jeez, here we go again - uncertainty part 2
On 20 Oct 2012 00:15, "Alex Harui" wrote:
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>
>
> On 10/19/12 3:55 PM, "charles.monte...@gmail.com"
> wrote:
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> >
>
> This now getting troubling if people are representing things correctly. Are
> > all current flex based mobile apps doomed ?
>
> When
On 10/19/12 3:55 PM, "charles.monte...@gmail.com"
wrote:
>
This now getting troubling if people are representing things correctly. Are
> all current flex based mobile apps doomed ?
When is AS4 due? Do we know for
> sure when the new vm's will cut out support for As 3 which is required for
ober 19, 2012 2:50 PM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
>
> and using Falcon to compile AS3 to generate new VM bytecode?
> is it more realistic to achieve?
>
> Le 19/10/2012 20:54, Gordon Smith a écrit :
>>> Gordon, Adobe AS4 compiler won't
time will only work for AS4?
Sorry, I don't know the plans for AIR.
- Gordon
-Original Message-
From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:02 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
So the only way to make flex
-Original Message-
From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:50 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
and using Falcon to compile AS3 to generate new VM bytecode?
is it more realistic to achieve?
Le 19/10/2012 20:54
I think this would be difficult as the new VM is not designed to run AS3.
- Gordon
-Original Message-
From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:50 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not
and using Falcon to compile
il.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:53 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon)
Alex, couldn't we simply use AS4 and have multiple target platforms ?
Gordon, Adobe AS4 compiler won't be open sourced but would it be possible to
adapt Falcon to target the new VM?
e been hearing some other stuff that might
make it harder.
>
> - Gordon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:56 AM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.
for
us and it isn't trivial. ActionScript is more complex than MXML.
- Gordon
-Original Message-
From: João Fernandes [mailto:joaopedromartinsfernan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:53 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.0 and
I've seen the final spec. It should be easier to transcode AS4 to other
languages, compared with AS3.
- Gordon
-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:56 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (wa
On 10/19/12 10:52 AM, "João Fernandes"
wrote:
> Alex, couldn't we simply use AS4 and have multiple target platforms ?
Sure, but I think it will be a lot of work, for little gain. I'm waiting
for the final AS4 spec. It might be harder to transcode it to other
languages than AS3.
--
Alex Har
Alex, couldn't we simply use AS4 and have multiple target platforms ?
Gordon, Adobe AS4 compiler won't be open sourced but would it be possible
to adapt Falcon to target the new VM?
On 10/19/12 5:10 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote:
> The question is what amount of work does it require to port from AS3 to
> AS4 ?
Significant. AS4 has made no promise to be backward compatible with AS3.
> It does not seems that the difference is as big as between AS2 and AS3
> right?
I think
I don't think Adobe has publicly disclosed details about AS4 yet, so I'll just
say that there are significant changes from AS3. However, porting Flex would
probably involve more work in adapting to the new runtime APIs than in adapting
to the new language.
Also, the AS4 compiler will not be ope
The question is what amount of work does it require to port from AS3 to
AS4 ?
It does not seems that the difference is as big as between AS2 and AS3
right?
I don't understand, what you mean in fact.
Is the work required is about to target stage3D by using starling2D as a
rendering layer? or is
I think we only could evaluate AS4 when Adobe share more info about
flash player next. Things like accesibility, localization, and others
are key for Flex. Hope that info could be shared soon and hope as well
internacionalization will be focus since I think is important in
gamming too.
2012/10/19
On 10/18/12 4:14 PM, "Om" wrote:
>
> I dont quite get the pessimism here. I am in fact glad that Adobe stopped
> working on Flex and is concentrating more on the Virtual Machine and AS
> language enhancements. Isnt that what we all wanted?
>
>
Flash in AVM1 and AVM2 had all of the pieces
>Even around AVM1 time, Flash Player was mostly known for games, intro sites
>and splash screens. That dint prevent me or several others companies from
>pushing Flash Player and build >shipping enterprise applications.
Right, they did. So, if the new AVM takes off and becomes popular, we are in
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