Accessibility as for the disabled, physically impaired ? No, I don't see that as a hard requirement to start work on a port but something you would try to add later when it becomes available.
The unclear implications of whether my flex as3 mobile app has a path forward in this new context of as4 is a huge concern. Knowing that some AS gurus are working on a port would be great. On Oct 20, 2012 11:48 PM, "Gordon Smith" <gosm...@adobe.com> wrote: > Isn't it premature to port the Flex framework if the new runtime doesn't > support things like accessibility that RIAs need? > > - Gordon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tianzhen Lin [mailto:tang...@usa.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:10 PM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: To AS4 or not > > I cannot wait to see the specs of AS4, and love to help out porting Flex > framework from AS3 to AS4. What would be interesting is to see how to > maintain the parity between the two versions, but a good technology is > worth the pain to keep it up to date. > > Tangent > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:02:44 PM EDT > From: Gordon Smith <gosm...@adobe.com> > To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" <flex-dev@incubator.apache.org> > Subject: RE: To AS4 or not > > > > Is it a stupide idea to use Falcon to transcode from AS3 to AS4 and > > > then > compile AS4 with adobes compiler? (if we emulate or drop the native > features that disappeared) Is it realistic or a large amount of work to do? > > > > It's not a stupid idea, but it is probably less work to just manually > > port > the framework to AS4. > > > > > Is it realistic to use falcon to transcode flex codebase from AS3 to > > > any > other language, and be able to use this generated code as the new codebase > for Apache flex? > > again, features like Events, or Display aside. > > > > It is certainly possible. Whether it is realistic, given the lack of > > people > volunteering to work on the compiler, is questionable in my mind. > > > > - Gordon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:35 AM > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: To AS4 or not > > > > Thanks Gordon for you answers, > > > > "but you'd have to rewrite it even if the new VM ran AS3 because the > > new VM > doesn't have DisplayObject or Event" > > Such features can be emulated in short term before rewriting the > > framework > without them. > > But rewrite the whole codebase because of synax changes is much more > > work to > get done. > > > > Is it a stupide idea to use Falcon to transcode from AS3 to AS4 and > > then > compile AS4 with adobes compiler? (if we emulate or drop the native > features that disappeared) Is it realistic or a large amount of work to do? > > > > I know its not good practice to try to code in AS3 for an AS4 vm with > different patterns, but it can be a short term solution if we need to > target the new runtime rapidly. > > If flex is multi target though, we won't be able to get a generic > > language > that can fit to every target patterns we want. > > And with pragmatism in mind, flex is AS3 today, so we have to deal > > with > > AS3 for quite a time. > > > > Gordon, another question that may be stupid. > > Is it realistic to use falcon to transcode flex codebase from AS3 to > > any > other language, and be able to use this generated code as the new codebase > for Apache flex? > > again, features like Events, or Display aside. > > > > Thanks > > Regards, > > > > > > Le 20/10/2012 00:11, Gordon Smith a écrit : > > >> So the only way to make flex run on the new VM is to rewrite the > > >> SDK > code, and with no easy way to do so? > > > Yes, I think so, but you'd have to rewrite it even if the new VM ran > > > AS3 > because the new VM doesn't have DisplayObject or Event! > > > > > >> Do you know if the next AIR runtime will only work for AS4? > > > Sorry, I don't know the plans for AIR. > > > > > > - Gordon > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:02 PM > > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: To AS4 or not > > > > > > So the only way to make flex run on the new VM is to rewrite the SDK > > > code, > and with no easy way to do so? > > > Do you know if the next AIR runtime will only work for AS4? > > > > > > Le 19/10/2012 23:53, Gordon Smith a écrit : > > >> I think this would be difficult as the new VM is not designed to > > >> run > AS3. > > >> > > >> - Gordon > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: sébastien Paturel [mailto:sebpatu.f...@gmail.com] > > >> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:50 PM > > >> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >> Subject: Re: To AS4 or not > > >> > > >> and using Falcon to compile AS3 to generate new VM bytecode? > > >> is it more realistic to achieve? > > >> > > >> Le 19/10/2012 20:54, Gordon Smith a écrit : > > >>>> Gordon, Adobe AS4 compiler won't be open sourced but would it be > possible to adapt Falcon to target the new VM? > > >>> Yes, it would be possible. Falcon/ASC 2.0 was the starting point > > >>> for > Adobe's development of an AS4 compiler. But it's been many developer-years > of work for us and it isn't trivial. ActionScript is more complex than MXML. > > >>> > > >>> - Gordon > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: João Fernandes [mailto:joaopedromartinsfernan...@gmail.com] > > >>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:53 AM > > >>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >>> Subject: Re: To AS4 or not (was: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon) > > >>> > > >>> Alex, couldn't we simply use AS4 and have multiple target platforms ? > > >>> > > >>> Gordon, Adobe AS4 compiler won't be open sourced but would it be > possible to adapt Falcon to target the new VM? > > > > >
