Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-10 Thread jude
"I pushed for Adobe to remove HGroup and VGroup before the release of spark as I saw these as absolutely pointless" The point is to have the component type that you need ready for you when you need it. Don't re-invent the wheel every time. Some of these are easy to make *for us*. Things like VGro

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/2/12 3:59 AM, "Arnoud Bos" wrote: >> >> >> One question, apart from sdk size, is there any >> additional overhead when using VGroup for example >> rather than Group and adding a layout? > > not AFAIK, > > you get just shorter and more readable code :-) > > putting them in a separate

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-02 Thread Arnoud Bos
> > > One question, apart from sdk size, is there any > additional overhead when using VGroup for example > rather than Group and adding a layout? not AFAIK, you get just shorter and more readable code :-) putting them in a separate package is the way to go i think. Arnoud

RE: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-02 Thread Glenn Williams
rather than Group and adding a layout? Glenn tinylion -Original Message- From: Tink [mailto:f...@tink.ws ] Sent: 02 March 2012 09:42 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Missing Spark Components List I'm with Jonathan on this I pushed for Adobe to remove HGroup and VG

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-02 Thread Tink
I'm with Jonathan on this I pushed for Adobe to remove HGroup and VGroup before the release of spark as I saw these as absolutely pointless. In spark we should use a container or data control and then add the required layout. There is no need to bake in layouts and expose their properties

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-02 Thread Tink
On 1 Mar 2012, at 20:03, Jonathan Campos wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Omar Gonzalez >wrote: Does ButtonBar do that? Honestly I haven't tried to make a ToggleButtonBar so I can't say. I want to say it does, but there is always some margin for error. -- Jonathan Campos The re

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-02 Thread Tink
On 1 Mar 2012, at 08:28, Omar Gonzalez wrote: http://www.tink.ws/examples/**apache-flex/index.html If anyone is interested in looking at those, the source and examples source is in my whiteboard. Tink Nice, Tink. I'll add a link to t

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Cortlandt Winters
You know, you're right. I think I was reacting to carol's response to it and thought that the word vaporware was in there but it doesn't seem to be. I do think that the term vaporwear would have been unprofessional as it would imply an unnecessarily jaded view that they'll never get them done. I t

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > Does ButtonBar do that? Honestly I haven't tried to make a ToggleButtonBar so I can't say. I want to say it does, but there is always some margin for error. -- Jonathan Campos

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Omar Gonzalez >wrote: > > > ToggleButton !== Button, I think another component is needed here no? > > > I *may* need a new skin. But in this case I would use composition with the > togglebutton, not the but

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > ToggleButton !== Button, I think another component is needed here no? I *may* need a new skin. But in this case I would use composition with the togglebutton, not the button. You may remember that there is a toggle button in spark already.

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Cortlandt Winters wrote: > I think this is a great list but that it should be more courteous and > professional in tone. I'm happy to edit the page, I don't see where it is being unprofessional. Can you point out what you would like to see edited or what you take

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread almansour belleh blanco
username: Mansuro -- Mansour Blanco Software engineer Stackoverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/users/612920/mansuro Blog: zuro.blogspot.com github: https://github.com/Mansuro

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Cortlandt Winters
I think this is a great list but that it should be more courteous and professional in tone. I am really thankful that Adobe's committed to finish out the spark set and I'm sure it's a lot of work. Lets cheer these folk on instead of making any timeline that isn't tomorrow a failure. That would be v

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Omar Gonzalez >wrote: > > > I've added a page to the wiki to keep track of the current inventory of > MX > > components, their Spark counterparts, and whether they are currently > > missing. > > > > I don't w

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Igor Costa
The missing point to Flex SDK is, Move on! If those components are not sparked by spark itself, move on. Don't replicate legacy code into a new formula. Let's be more creative people, implementing new components based on Spark Architecture. Because later on, we will have a new architecture that

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Omar, > > I am sorry that this is going to sound a little snippy but would you > prefer we stop working on getting the compiler and mustella ready and work > on moving the new spark components over to apache? I'm guessing not. Definitely

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Doug Arthur
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM, David Francis Buhler wrote: > Done: pedalfaster > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Doug Arthur wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:21 AM, David Francis Buhler >> wrote: >> > I have a BA in English and worked as a Technical Writer for a big >> software >> > comp

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Doug Arthur
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:55 AM, almansour belleh blanco wrote: > I don't have permission to make edits too. Please send me your username.

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread almansour belleh blanco
I don't have permission to make edits too. -- Mansour Blanco Software engineer Stackoverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/users/612920/mansuro Blog: zuro.blogspot.com github: https://github.com/Mansuro

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread David Francis Buhler
Done: pedalfaster On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Doug Arthur wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:21 AM, David Francis Buhler > wrote: > > I have a BA in English and worked as a Technical Writer for a big > software > > company (writing software manuals). If there's a need to edit and review > >

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Doug Arthur
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:21 AM, David Francis Buhler wrote: > I have a BA in English and worked as a Technical Writer for a big software > company (writing software manuals). If there's a need to edit and review > the Wiki Pages so they present themselves as unbiased, professional, with a > single

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
PopUpButton : Button + PopUpAnchor? All list variants: Create a List and set its 'layout' property, you don't even need a special skin. VRule and HRule: Line. Haykel On 1 March 2012 16:34, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Omar Gonzalez >wrote: > > > I've added a page

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Roland Zwaga
> > It was not a criticism, but a real question about how complicated it would > be to donate just the code for those components without any other code from > Flex 5. I was hoping this could be not very hard to do. I'm aware of the > hard work they are doing and I want to thank them for it, sorry i

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
It was not a criticism, but a real question about how complicated it would be to donate just the code for those components without any other code from Flex 5. I was hoping this could be not very hard to do. I'm aware of the hard work they are doing and I want to thank them for it, sorry if I gave a

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > While I get the intention I think that to go down this path will cause > confusion and also reduce people's abilities to see new features and > functionality (specifically in the case of TileList, HRule/VRule, > LinkButton... well all of the

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Roland Zwaga
> > How complicated is it to donate those components to Apache? I would prefer > to see these components donated asap even if they are incomplete so that > the community can decide whether they will be used as is, modified or > reimplemented. > As stated before, Carol and Alex are just as much a v

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > I've added a page to the wiki to keep track of the current inventory of MX > components, their Spark counterparts, and whether they are currently > missing. > I don't want to just go editing your work without some discussion, so I'm throwing

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
How complicated is it to donate those components to Apache? I would prefer to see these components donated asap even if they are incomplete so that the community can decide whether they will be used as is, modified or reimplemented. Haykel On 1 March 2012 16:18, Carol Frampton wrote: > Omar,

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread David Francis Buhler
I have a BA in English and worked as a Technical Writer for a big software company (writing software manuals). If there's a need to edit and review the Wiki Pages so they present themselves as unbiased, professional, with a single voice, I'm happy to help. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Carol Fr

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Carol Frampton
Omar, I am sorry that this is going to sound a little snippy but would you prefer we stop working on getting the compiler and mustella ready and work on moving the new spark components over to apache? I'm guessing not. I think calling it vaporware is a bit strong. I think on your chart you shou

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Walter Treur
This list is very convenient! About the spark counterpart for Grid(Row/Col) I think ConstrainLayout in Flex 4.5 offers the same functionality: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/spark/layouts/ConstraintLayout.html Regards, Walter On 1 March 2012 13:21, Rafael Sa

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Rafael Santos
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 05:13, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Missing+Spark+Components > > Great page I will try to review it later today Rafael Santos - Specta @rafaelspecta

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:45 AM, almansour belleh blanco < zabouzamomo...@gmail.com> wrote: > How can I edit wiki pages? > Sign up for an account on the wiki and then ask a project mentor for permission to edit the wiki, I'm not sure who does the exactly to be honest. -- Omar Gonzalez s9tpep...@

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Arnoud Bos
Looks great Tink! On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Tink wrote: > On 1 Mar 2012, at 08:13, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I've added a page to the wiki to keep track of the current inventory of MX >> components, their Spark counterparts, and whether they are currently >> missing. This li

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
> > http://www.tink.ws/examples/**apache-flex/index.html > > > If anyone is interested in looking at those, the source and examples > source is in my whiteboard. > > Tink I added links on the list for your TabNavigator, MenuBar and AccordionLayo

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
> > http://www.tink.ws/examples/**apache-flex/index.html > > > If anyone is interested in looking at those, the source and examples > source is in my whiteboard. > > Tink Nice, Tink. I'll add a link to the relevant components so people can peep

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Tink
On 1 Mar 2012, at 08:13, Omar Gonzalez wrote: Hello all, I've added a page to the wiki to keep track of the current inventory of MX components, their Spark counterparts, and whether they are currently missing. This list does not take into account work that Adobe has done that is not yet do

Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-01 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Hello all, I've added a page to the wiki to keep track of the current inventory of MX components, their Spark counterparts, and whether they are currently missing. This list does not take into account work that Adobe has done that is not yet donated. While it is great that there are more component