Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Alex Harui
I'm not sure there is a Product team. It is now just a bunch of developers contributing to Apache. So I would say that Adobe is not going to offer a prize. On 1/10/12 1:48 PM, "dusty.jew...@gmail.com" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > >> I'm not going to ask e

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Matthew Poole
+1 this is a volunteer community. On 10 January 2012 21:57, Peter Elst wrote: > > I asked Aaron Houston if the AUG team would like to sponsor this... he > felt > > that this was more in-line with the Product team, so we should ask them. > > > > Not to stir things up but I have the impression the

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Elst
> I asked Aaron Houston if the AUG team would like to sponsor this... he felt > that this was more in-line with the Product team, so we should ask them. > Not to stir things up but I have the impression there was more or less a consensus and feedback by two of our mentors that the Apache way would

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Dusty Jewett
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > I'm not going to ask either. I don't think there should be a prize. I asked Aaron Houston if the AUG team would like to sponsor this... he felt that this was more in-line with the Product team, so we should ask them.

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Carol Frampton
On 1/10/12 2 :32PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > > >On 1/10/12 10:06 AM, "Michel Boudreau" wrote: > >> Wouldn't it be possible to get Adobe to donate some swag? You know, >> creative suite and the likes? There must be other companies that are >>able >> to donate something if we actually look for

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Michel Boudreau
Hot Potato! Who wants to take charge on this initiative? M On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/10/12 10:06 AM, "Michel Boudreau" wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be possible to get Adobe to donate some swag? You know, > > creative suite and the likes? There must be other

Code and Copyright ( was: Logo Contest information )

2012-01-10 Thread Rick Winscot
That sentiment is growing more and more... legal-folks are starting to see software development as 'creative juices' expressed digitally and not just IP. However, there are three decades worth of precent that needs massaging to bring coding on-par with a field like graphic design. Code can be c

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/10/12 10:06 AM, "Michel Boudreau" wrote: > Wouldn't it be possible to get Adobe to donate some swag? You know, > creative suite and the likes? There must be other companies that are able > to donate something if we actually look for it, like JetBrains for IntelliJ > or FDS, or some of t

RE: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Douglas Arthur
> -Original Message- > From: Michel Boudreau [mailto:michelboudr...@gmail.com] > > Wouldn't it be possible to get Adobe to donate some swag? You know, > creative suite and the likes? There must be other companies that are able to > donate something if we actually look for it, like JetBra

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Elst
> > Wouldn't it be possible to get Adobe to donate some swag? You know, > creative suite and the likes? There must be other companies that are able > to donate something if we actually look for it, like JetBrains for IntelliJ > or FDS, or some of the other hundreds of tools around creative develo

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Michel Boudreau
Wouldn't it be possible to get Adobe to donate some swag? You know, creative suite and the likes? There must be other companies that are able to donate something if we actually look for it, like JetBrains for IntelliJ or FDS, or some of the other hundreds of tools around creative development :)

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Jeffry Houser
On the other hand - pro-bono for the committer is strictly a time contribution as far as US law is concerned. It's implicit that any work done for Apache Flex is 'owned' by Apache Flex - period. The world of software / intellectual property is governed by patents. I believe this is an incomp

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Carlos Rovira
I think submit logo is like submit code...so no compensation should be planed. One different thing is that a contest where various people are making the same work and only one is selected, means that maybe you are working for nothing, in opposite to submit code to the project that normaly will be u

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Paul Evans
+1 On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:09, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > it would IMO be wrong for the Flex > project to offer a financial reward

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Elst
> I think everything deserves compensation. Compensation is not the same > as cash, however. agreed - compensation might not have been the right choice of words, my point being I wouldn't treat contributing the logo different than anyone else contributing to the project. - Peter

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/10/2012 11:03 AM, Peter Elst wrote: We're all enthusiastic volunteers wanting to support the project, would be careful about setting a precedent for certain things deserving compensation. I think everything deserves compensation. Compensation is not the same as cash, however. Those o

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Samuel Janzen
Yep. would say so too. 2012/1/10 Jonathan Campos > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Peter Elst wrote: > > > I understand what you're saying, but do you see this different as say a > > committer contributing code? We're all enthusiastic volunteers wanting to > > support the project, would be ca

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Peter Elst wrote: > ...There's nothing stopping us from making a gesture to whoever makes the > winning design but wouldn't make it a given or make that an incentive for > people to contribute I agree with that. People are free to send a gift to logo contest

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Peter Elst wrote: > I understand what you're saying, but do you see this different as say a > committer contributing code? We're all enthusiastic volunteers wanting to > support the project, would be careful about setting a precedent for certain > things deservin

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Elst
> Are you saying that in order for Apache Flex to succeed - everything > everyone does needs to be pro-bono? > > To that, I say, "There is no such thing as a free lunch." I understand what you're saying, but do you see this different as say a committer contributing code? We're all enthusiastic v

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting João Saleiro : Three comments on the Logo Contest Page: 1. There's a typo in the Prize section: "The winning contributor will recieve" (recieve = receive) Fixed 2. The Deadline should indicate the timezone (GMT ?) (but when we get there, we shouldn't be picky about it and give

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread Rick Winscot
Are you saying that in order for Apache Flex to succeed - everything everyone does needs to be pro-bono? To that, I say, "There is no such thing as a free lunch." So! I'd like to donate / contribute a trophy for the winner - a limited edition silk screened t-shirt featuring the new logo. Option

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-10 Thread João Saleiro
Three comments on the Logo Contest Page: 1. There's a typo in the Prize section: "The winning contributor will recieve" (recieve = receive) 2. The Deadline should indicate the timezone (GMT ?) (but when we get there, we shouldn't be picky about it and give a 24h margin for last moment pr

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Matthew Poole
Are we ready to start, can we blog the competition? On 9 January 2012 19:37, Anne Kathrine Petterøe wrote: > On 9 January 2012 18:20, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > > > Don't you want to add some information about what people win? > > > > IMO the only prize is that we'll give credit somewhere

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Anne Kathrine Petterøe
On 9 January 2012 18:20, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Don't you want to add some information about what people win? > > IMO the only prize is that we'll give credit somewhere on the Flex > site to whoever creates the winning logo, I think it would be good to > mention that. I agree with Betrand

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Rick Winscot
It doesn't have to be a cash prize - perhaps something useful for the contributor? A limited edition t-shirt with the new logo signed by all the initial committers... a years supply of bacon... a ride on a unicorn. -- Rick Winscot On Monday, January 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Jonathan Campos wrot

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > Honestly I have had no experience with that so I am guessing it's a > consolidation facility? > > Can you just explain a tad, I'm naive. :) You create a feedback forum. In our case it would be "Apache Flex Logo - Community Voting". Then

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Rick Winscot wrote: > Any reason we can't take up a collection from everyone on the list - for > say a few dollars each? Prize money couldn't hurt. I wouldn't be into this. Bragging rights are more important. I wouldn't want to set the precedent that being apart

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Rick Winscot
Any reason we can't take up a collection from everyone on the list - for say a few dollars each? Prize money couldn't hurt. -- Rick Winscot On Monday, January 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Michael Schmalle (mailto:m...@teotigraphix.com)> w

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > I created a new page located at [1]... I've made minor edits to clarify that it's the development mailing list that we're using to communicate. Don't you want to add some information about what people win? IMO the only prize is that we'l

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jun Heider : I can set up a uservoice for voting if you want. On Jan 9, 2012 10:04 AM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: Honestly I have had no experience with that so I am guessing it's a consolidation facility? Can you just explain a tad, I'm naive. :) Mike

Re: Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Jun Heider
I can set up a uservoice for voting if you want. On Jan 9, 2012 10:04 AM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: > Hi, > > I created a new page located at [1]. > > Bertrand seems to agree that one week should be sufficient for entries. He > also mentioned we could take entries through the hastag #flexlogo or

Logo Contest information

2012-01-09 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hi, I created a new page located at [1]. Bertrand seems to agree that one week should be sufficient for entries. He also mentioned we could take entries through the hastag #flexlogo or I guess #ApacheFlex. I think the easiest way for me to update the site is for any of you reading this t