Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-04-04 Thread Alex Harui
On 4/4/12 9:30 AM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > As I search about implementing fonts in haXe i stumbled upon this [1]. I > have to say hxswfml is easier to read than the fontforge source. An update: Adobe is still investigating what it would take to make a set of JARs available to Apache. The

Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-04-04 Thread Martin Heidegger
As I search about implementing fonts in haXe i stumbled upon this [1]. I have to say hxswfml is easier to read than the fontforge source. yours Martin. [1] http://code.google.com/p/hxswfml/source/detail?spec=svn118&r=117 On 3

Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Mar 28, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Left Right wrote: > Aha... so, as far as I could understand, CFF is different from TTF in that > it uses cubic curves for outlines instead of quadratic. Is there anything > else that is different? > Would this also mean that fonts, originally in OTF (CFF) format can b

Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Left Right
Aha... so, as far as I could understand, CFF is different from TTF in that it uses cubic curves for outlines instead of quadratic. Is there anything else that is different? Would this also mean that fonts, originally in OTF (CFF) format can be compiled right away w/o needing to do some [more] compl

Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 29/03/2012 02:20, Alex Harui wrote: I'm still trying to make sure I understand both the technical and legal issues. I see specs for CFF and DefineFont4, but there are rumors that the conversion is currently done via proprietary algorithms. If we (Apache Flex) just write our own, there may be

Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/28/12 11:00 AM, "Om" wrote: >> I hope the solution we come up with will work for Falcon as well. >> >> > We == Adobe? > We == Apache Flex -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

RE: Testing MXMLC (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>I'm not well-versed on exactly how the compiler folks were doing there >testing, but in a tests folder we could not donate, it appeared that there >were several small source files, but it appeared that they all came >from >Tamarin, so we cannot take them at Apache. Ah, I bet I know what they w

Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/28/12 10:41 AM, "Om" wrote: > Does Falcon come with support for CFF Fonts? > When it is open-sourced, will > it be gimped in the same way when it comes to fonts? I hope the solution we come up with will work for Falcon as well. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blo

Re: CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Om
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > On 3/28/12 5:31 AM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: > > > Yes Martin, I understood the legal problem. I was just wondering what is > > particular about the code that it cannot be replaced by other (modified) > > font managers. As you probabl

Testing MXMLC (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/28/12 1:41 AM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > On 28/03/2012 15:39, Alex Harui wrote: >> I'm not quite sure what you meant by test data, but I don't think we >> have anything to offer at this time. > Its a compiler > > mangle them > > I'd assume that a test case, for the I/O exists but ju

CFF Font Embedding (was Re: Here Comes MXMLC!)

2012-03-28 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/28/12 5:31 AM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: > Yes Martin, I understood the legal problem. I was just wondering what is > particular about the code that it cannot be replaced by other (modified) > font managers. As you probably know, there are 4 managers currently in SDK > which can encode

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-28 Thread Left Right
Yes Martin, I understood the legal problem. I was just wondering what is particular about the code that it cannot be replaced by other (modified) font managers. As you probably know, there are 4 managers currently in SDK which can encode fonts using somewhat different techniques, but only one can e

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-28 Thread Martin Heidegger
Hello Oleg, the main difficulty is that its not Open Source. We can not deploy it, having no "font tool" out of the box well ... sucks. Aside from that. I checked swfmill, its haXe pendant and a few other open source projects but they all just support DefineFont3 (not cff). As far as I can te

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-28 Thread Left Right
Hello, more out of curiosity: what is the main difficulty behind using FontSwf? Is it the generation of the proper SWF tag or is it the generation of the outlines or the kinds of fonts it supports, or is it the parsing the source font files? I'm asking this because there is another OSS code that m

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-28 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 28/03/2012 15:39, Alex Harui wrote: I'm not quite sure what you meant by test data, but I don't think we have anything to offer at this time. Its a compiler mangle them I'd assume that a test case, for the I/O exists but judging from your answer I guess they were made at a different lev

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-28 Thread Petr Svoboda
woohoo :) great & thanks for ur work! On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Today we finally got the last blocking legal issue resolved and are now > hunting down executives to sign the appropriate documents to submit the > source code for MXMLC to Apache. The final signature has

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-27 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/27/12 11:18 PM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > Would it be possible to sort out test data at least? Like: sourcefolder > + expected swf without a test system behind that? Having to start from 0 > is really a tremendous amount of work... I'm not quite sure what you meant by test data, but I d

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-27 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 28/03/2012 04:04, Alex Harui wrote: Today we finally got the last blocking legal issue resolved and are now hunting down executives to sign the appropriate documents to submit the source code for MXMLC to Apache. The final signature has to come from a VP who is on vacation this week, but w

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-27 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/27/12 12:56 PM, "Om" wrote: > 2) CFF Font Embedding is not being donated. The source code is not under >> control of the Flex team at Adobe. This means that you won¹t be able to >> compile >>@font-face(³somefile.ttf²); embedAsCFF:true >> For now, you can use the JAR files from a fu

Re: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-27 Thread Om
Great news, Alex! This is a big step forward for sure :-) I have some questions on the CFF Font embedding issue. 2) CFF Font Embedding is not being donated. The source code is not under > control of the Flex team at Adobe. This means that you won’t be able to > compile >@font-face(“somefi

RE: Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-27 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>Today we finally got the last blocking legal issue resolved and are now >hunting down executives to sign the appropriate documents to submit the source >code for MXMLC to Apache. The final signature has to come >from a VP who is >on vacation this week, but we are going to try to get him to si

Here Comes MXMLC!

2012-03-27 Thread Alex Harui
Today we finally got the last blocking legal issue resolved and are now hunting down executives to sign the appropriate documents to submit the source code for MXMLC to Apache. The final signature has to come from a VP who is on vacation this week, but we are going to try to get him to sign fro