Re: Permintaan berbagi Apache Flex Logo Voting Results

2012-01-19 Thread Marcus Fritze
Logo contest" ). I think the results will be posted after the vote finished. Thanks! Marcus Am 19.01.2012 um 12:45 schrieb Denis Kristianto (Google Documents): > Permintaan berbagi > Anda adalah pemilik Apache Flex Logo Voting Results. > deniskristia...@gmail.com telah meminta

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/18/2012 3:00 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: I think the +1/0/-1 only really works in an either/or decision. It is kind of an either or decision. Or rather, 54 of them. ;) I respect the amount of time it takes to vote in each entry individually, though. -- Jeffry Houser Technical Ent

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > I'd be willing to use this approach, and like it better than the "pick > five". Although looking at the logos; there are some I like; some I'm > indifferent to; and some I really don't like. By only +1ing; I'm only > voting a third of my o

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/18/2012 2:40 PM, Doug Arthur wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Rui Silva wrote: I agree with João (that's why I proposed a 5 points systems :) ). I think there are far too many entries and far too few PPMC members to have that sort of vote. +1, 0, -1 works really well for an all o

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Rui Silva wrote: > I don't think doubling on the PPMC's votes, or reducing the non-PPMC's to 1 > point would be necessary. The community would vote with the same weight as > the PPMC's and if there is a significant difference we should analyze that > and decide

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Rui Silva wrote: > I agree with João (that's why I proposed a 5 points systems :) ). I think > there are far too many entries and far too few PPMC members to have that sort > of vote. +1, 0, -1 works really well for an all or nothing selection, but as > soon as

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Marcus Fritze
Am 18.01.2012 um 20:11 schrieb Iwo Banaś: > Opening voting to the public can only lead to the "who has more friends" > kind of competition and "how many votes from one IP are allowed" As I mentioned in a previous mail: Maybe we send a "start voting mail" and they only have to REPLY this mail.

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Rui Silva
> From: "João Saleiro" > > I suggest the following. > > 1- The voting is open to everyone, but PPMC votes are worth the double > 2- A page is setup with all logos, with a # for each logo > 3- A new unique thread is created for voting > 4- Each person can distribute 5 points in the following way: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Rui Silva
> From: "João Fernandes" > I don't see the point of doing -1 on logos with that many entries. > > João Fernandes I agree with João (that's why I proposed a 5 points systems :) ). I think there are far too many entries and far too few PPMC members to have that sort of vote. +1, 0, -1 works real

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread João Saleiro
I suggest the following. 1- The voting is open to everyone, but PPMC votes are worth the double 2- A page is setup with all logos, with a # for each logo 3- A new unique thread is created for voting 4- Each person can distribute 5 points in the following way: Logo #6 - 3 Logo #9 - 1 Logo #8 - 1

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Iwo Banaś
On Jan 18, 2012 6:17 PM, "Brent Arnold" wrote: > So is the rest of the community unable to vote? Seeing how we didn't elect the PPMC members, I don't see it being very fair to exclude the rest of us from voting on something that will represent the community. Surely it won't be "fair" but I can't

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread João Fernandes
I don't see the point of doing -1 on logos with that many entries. What I propose is: PPMC votes: (Binding) Logo #xx : x points Logo #yy: y points ... up to 5 points. Community vote: (Non-Binding) Logo #xx : 1 point xx/yy being the Logo entry at http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.htm

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Another approach could be... 1. We determine how many finalists are going to be chosen from this round. 2. Everyone's votes are counted for this round to determine the finalists. 3. The designers will have some time (TBD) to gather feedback and update their designs. 4. Another vote will be held

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
Apache already has a voting process, and I suggest we use that for choosing the logo. I know a few people expressed worry about offending designers by giving them a -1 vote--but they did enter a design contest and I am comfortable judging them. I would advocate this approach: 1) Put to

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Rui Silva
> From: "Jonathan Campos" > Should people have to at least vote for 2 or 3 different logos. It may be > possible that everyone votes for a different logo and every logo gets 5 pts. > > -- > Jonathan Campos I'd leave people free to vote in any way they want. Rui

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Brent Arnold wrote: > So is the rest of the community unable to vote? It's been discussed several ways, but not sure we have any consensus on how that should work. IMO, community members may cast their vote (non binding). This can help PPMC members decide on votes

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Brent Arnold
So is the rest of the community unable to vote? Seeing how we didn't elect the PPMC members, I don't see it being very fair to exclude the rest of us from voting on something that will represent the community. 2 cents, Brent On 1/18/12 11:14 AM, Rui Silva wrote: Hi people, We should decide

Re: [DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Rui Silva wrote: > 3. Each voter will have 5 points to freely distribute by the logo > submissions. Voters would simply append the points they attribute to a logo > > bellow its URL; > Should people have to at least vote for 2 or 3 different logos. It may be pos

[DISCUSS] Logo voting

2012-01-18 Thread Rui Silva
Hi people, We should decide how the actual voting should occur within this list. I had started a vote thread earlier which I'll repeat here to start up the discussion: 1. Email on the mailing list with a list of URLs to the logos on contest; 2. Only PPMC member's votes are counted; 3. Each vo

Re: [LOGO] Voting: anonymous or not?

2012-01-18 Thread Marcus Fritze
I know / understand what you mean. I already try to create this form (I don't know if this is possible in Google Docs). Marcus Am 18.01.2012 um 16:38 schrieb Peter Elst: >> It will be through the mailing list. > > > I think it might have been discussed but trying to make our life easier - > i

Re: [LOGO] Voting: anonymous or not?

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Peter Elst : It will be through the mailing list. I think it might have been discussed but trying to make our life easier - its possible to set up a Google form linked to a read-only Google spreadsheet and have submissions through the form automatically mailed to the list. - Peter

Re: [LOGO] Voting: anonymous or not?

2012-01-18 Thread Dany Dhondt
That would be nice! Dany Op 18-jan.-2012, om 16:38 heeft Peter Elst het volgende geschreven: >> It will be through the mailing list. > > > I think it might have been discussed but trying to make our life easier - > its possible to set up a Google form linked to a read-only Google > spreadsheet

Re: [LOGO] Voting: anonymous or not?

2012-01-18 Thread Peter Elst
> It will be through the mailing list. I think it might have been discussed but trying to make our life easier - its possible to set up a Google form linked to a read-only Google spreadsheet and have submissions through the form automatically mailed to the list. - Peter

Re: [LOGO] Voting: anonymous or not?

2012-01-18 Thread Peter Elst
> > > Anonymous voting (mail sent directly to one person) > Non-anonymous voting (mail sent to the list) I'd say absolutely non-anonymous - if it doesn't happen on the mailinglist it doesn't happen :) Please lets keep votes to a single thread. - Peter

Re: [LOGO] Voting: anonymous or not?

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Dany Dhondt : Two choices: Anonymous voting (mail sent directly to one person) This is NOT an option, everything we do in Apache is public Non-anonymous voting (mail sent to the list) It will be through the mailing list. Mike

[LOGO] Voting: anonymous or not?

2012-01-18 Thread Dany Dhondt
Two choices: Anonymous voting (mail sent directly to one person) Non-anonymous voting (mail sent to the list) Dany Op 18-jan.-2012, om 16:29 heeft Dany Dhondt het volgende geschreven: > I suggest we follow Marcus' idea. Let's wait for a 'start voting email' and > then just reply to it. > >

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > >>> >>> Antonio, >>> >>> I think Bertrand was referring to the fact committers would create the >>> shortened list of entry urls fot the vote. >> >> I think that the contest page should have shortened urls. > >> Regards, >> Dave > > So

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-17 Thread Marcus Fritze
Maybe only the preview URL or call it "vote url" / "vote id" (we don't want to make it too difficult to vote). Just in case, if someone votes for the preview file and someone votes for the zip file (with a different URL / key). Marcus Am 17.01.2012 um 17:46 schrieb Michael Schmalle: > >>>

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-17 Thread Michael Schmalle
Antonio, I think Bertrand was referring to the fact committers would create the shortened list of entry urls fot the vote. I think that the contest page should have shortened urls. Regards, Dave So are you telling me to get shortened urls on that page ASAP? Mike

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Quoting Antonio Olmo Titos : > >> >> On Mon 16 Jan 2012 22:33 Marcus Fritze wrote: >>> good idea, that would be ok using http://s.apache.org/ >> >> Unfortunately, http://s.apache.org/ is "limited to Apache committers" [ >> https://blogs.a

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-17 Thread Marcus Fritze
As far as I understand, one committer can create a short URL (with a key) for any logo. So you only have to type the short URL / key in the vote and not the full (and very long) URL. Marcus Am 17.01.2012 um 17:05 schrieb Antonio Olmo Titos: > > On Mon 16 Jan 2012 22:33 Marcus Fritze wrote: >>

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-17 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Antonio Olmo Titos : On Mon 16 Jan 2012 22:33 Marcus Fritze wrote: good idea, that would be ok using http://s.apache.org/ Unfortunately, http://s.apache.org/ is "limited to Apache committers" [ https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/s_apache_org_uri_shortening ]. (Do I take that

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-17 Thread Antonio Olmo Titos
On Mon 16 Jan 2012 22:33 Marcus Fritze wrote: good idea, that would be ok using http://s.apache.org/ Unfortunately, http://s.apache.org/ is "limited to Apache committers" [ https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/s_apache_org_uri_shortening ]. (Do I take that only committers will vote in the l

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-16 Thread Marcus Fritze
good idea, that would be ok using http://s.apache.org/ Am 16.01.2012 um 22:22 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Marcus Fritze > wrote: >> ...Every logo gets his own ID (1-36) (because some creators submitted >> multiple logos) - this ID should be in front of the lo

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-16 Thread Marcus Fritze
I think, this shouldn't be a problem to set-up a new email. But when everybody uses the same email subject (e.g. Logo Voting), this wouldn't bother me. (Thanks to the automatic email grouping in Mac Mail.app ;-) ) Regarding to my suggested voting system: Just to clarify, the logo with

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Marcus Fritze wrote: > ...Every logo gets his own ID (1-36) (because some creators submitted > multiple logos) - this ID should be in front of the logo creator on the logo > wiki page IDs should be the URLs of the logos to avoid indirection - committers can

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-16 Thread Martin Heidegger
I assume that there will be quite a few mails regarding voting. To not "spam" the public list: How about an administrative list like "flex-vote" for that? yours Martin.

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-16 Thread Marcus Fritze
Currently, afaik we have 36 logos. Here is my suggestion: Every logo gets his own ID (1-36) (because some creators submitted multiple logos) - this ID should be in front of the logo creator on the logo wiki page. Because of the amount of logos we can maybe award places from 1st to 6th and use

Re: [LOGO] Voting

2012-01-16 Thread Peter Elst
> Once the logo has been voted for and chosen, wouldn't it be wise to have a > round on fine-tuning? yes good point, that is planned: "The design as accepted by popular vote will be treated as a proposal that can be tweaked and cemented into it's final published form." There's been discussion o

[LOGO] Voting

2012-01-16 Thread Dany Dhondt
Hi all, Once the logo has been voted for and chosen, wouldn't it be wise to have a round on fine-tuning? Logo development is quite like programming: it's details that matter. After all, we'll be using the Apache Flex logo for years to come :) And a second thought: how will we vote? Just one vo

Re: [Vote] Logo voting mechanism

2012-01-12 Thread Scott Delamater
+1 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > forgot to add... > > +1 (binding) > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Omar Gonzalez >wrote: > > > +1 >

Re: [Vote] Logo voting mechanism

2012-01-12 Thread Omar Gonzalez
forgot to add... +1 (binding) On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > +1

Re: [Vote] Logo voting mechanism

2012-01-12 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
+1 -- Joan Llenas Masó http://joan.garnet.io @joangarnet (es) @joanllenas (en) On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 18:15, Rui Silva wrote: > Hi, > > Following Bertrand's lead and generally agreeing with his suggestion I'd > like to propose the following voting mechanism for the Flex Logo > selection: >

Re: [Vote] Logo voting mechanism

2012-01-12 Thread Omar Gonzalez
+1

[Vote] Logo voting mechanism

2012-01-12 Thread Rui Silva
Hi, Following Bertrand's lead and generally agreeing with his suggestion I'd like to propose the following voting mechanism for the Flex Logo selection: 1. Email on the mailing list with a list of URLs to the logos on contest; 2. Only PPMC member's votes are counted; 3. Each voter will have 5 p