Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-02-05 Thread Stephane Beladaci
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Doug McCune wrote: > > Saying nothing changed means you haven't been paying attention. HTML/JS is > changing faster than almost any other technology stack out there at the > moment. It has more momentum and developer interest than almost any other > technology stac

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

2012-02-05 Thread Stephane Beladaci
Adobe did since there is no commercial agenda anymore. Adobe will probably also improved the Flash Player as part of their own agenda and use, is multi threading still on the map for this year? > On 2/4/12 5:24 PM, "Stephane Beladaci" wrote: > OK, that's enough speculation fo

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-02-04 Thread Stephane Beladaci
This post is a brillant example of Apple's brain washing power! If you listen to Steve Jobs then you contribute to the spreading of a disease that will do nothing but cripple the industry. Apple does not push HTML5 because it is better, they push it because it does not exists and can easily be pate

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

2012-02-04 Thread Stephane Beladaci
We will only see the Flash Player being open sourced if Google buy Adobe, otherwise Adobe will rather kill it than letting competition benefit from it. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:05 AM, JP Bader wrote: > Jeffry's correct.  Adobe is in the business to make money.  They make > great tools because th

Re: [LOGO] Carlos Rovira

2012-01-14 Thread Stephane Beladaci
+1, I really like this! On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > Hello, this is my entry for the apache flex logo contest. > > PNG Preview > http://carlosrovira.com/apache-flex-logo-final-proposal.jpg > > ZIP FILE > http://carlosrovira.com/apache-flex-logo-final-proposal.zip > > Be

Dependency injection built in, would it make sense?

2012-01-13 Thread Stephane Beladaci
Would it make any sense to have built in dependency injection? I use messaging and dependency injection for almost all my projects and I am curious as to whether or not it could be beneficial to a majority of Flex projects?

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-13 Thread Stephane Beladaci
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > On 1/13/2012 9:03 PM, Stephane Beladaci wrote: >  None of that is in the formal FB docs; but I'm not surprised that FB docs > would be incomplete or inaccurate. Facebook has quite a few mechanisms in place that define what yo

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-13 Thread Stephane Beladaci
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: >  So, my offensive question of the day... >  What makes you the person with proper qualifications to do this?  Since you > aren't one of the initial commiters, nor a mentor? No offense taken, I never said I am that person, I even said that I

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-13 Thread Stephane Beladaci
> You don't - go reread that thread [1], and could people please stop > spreading FUD about such things? > Ask the mentors if such things are unclear, instead of making up rules > on the fly - thanks. How do we know if what someone says is reliable or not? I am sorry for the mistake but when the V

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-13 Thread Stephane Beladaci
Hey guys, even though I do appreciate the effort to spread the word and secure Apache Flex social presence, I believe it should be handles for someone designated by the community with the proper qualifications. Also, there is another thread on the mailing list that indicates we are in violation of

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-13 Thread Stephane Beladaci
That makes sense. Do you know if Adobe Professional Services intends to use Apache Flex once its gets ahead of Adobe Flex 4.6? If not yet, do you think it might be a possibility? On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Because Adobe wants to support its enterprise customers as best

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-12 Thread Stephane Beladaci
I did not know Adobe Flex will continue to be available, do we know for how long and what is the purpose of Adobe keeping Adobe Flex around? I am sure the people in charge of the Adobe Flex page will be supportive and I do not mind dealing with a temporary confusion as long as that confusion as a t

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-12 Thread Stephane Beladaci
I haven't payed attention to. On 1/12/2012 9:46 PM, Stephane Beladaci wrote: > So in that case what is the Facebook Adobe Flex page going to become? > This is an issue, if people look for Flex on Facebook and find Adobe > Flex that is an issue to me! > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 a

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-12 Thread Stephane Beladaci
So in that case what is the Facebook Adobe Flex page going to become? This is an issue, if people look for Flex on Facebook and find Adobe Flex that is an issue to me! On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > We probably will not donate communication channels like blogs, twitter, > fa

Re: Have Adobe ever published a list of what they are giving to Apache?

2012-01-12 Thread Stephane Beladaci
I strongly agree, it is important to create a clear distinction between the past (Adobe Flex) and the future (Apache Flex), there is already enough confusion across the board and the truth of the matter is that Apache Flex is NOT Adobe Flex, despite the fact that the initial code base is the same,

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

2012-01-11 Thread Stephane Beladaci
which is a good thing I believe, recycling the existing logo would also create confusion, it would be saying "it is still Adobe Flex, we just Apached it" when in fact we need to send the message that this is not Adobe at all anymore. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Adobe is n

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

2012-01-11 Thread Stephane Beladaci
+1 for a clean cut distinctive definition of what Flex is, namely an Apache project free of Adobe and open to new corporate venture / partnership / investment. I always said and still believe Flex will need corporate backup and sponsors to succeeded and I also understand / appreciate the idea of "

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

2012-01-11 Thread Stephane Beladaci
+1, I strongly believe the word Adobe should be nowhere to be found, the company made a choice and from a communication standpoint I believe the name should always be Apache Flex, that will help making clear that this is a new product in the hand of the community, which will hopefully help make up

Re: Petition: Flash Catalyst must survive

2012-01-10 Thread Stephane Beladaci
I would not give too much credit to Microsoft pulling the plug on Silverlight... Around February 20010 they joined forces with Apple in order to kill Flash, at that point they said plugin is dead, Flash is dead and viva HTML.Then came a new version of Silverlight, at which point they went public an

Re: Petition: Flash Catalyst must survive

2012-01-10 Thread Stephane Beladaci
Velocity, adoption and PR will definitely brings HTML closer however I personally believe that the very nature of W3C standard will always make the HTML5 stack slower to evolve and innovate. Look at Apple currently crippling HTML5 audio and video on iOS Safari to protect its native ecosystem and av

Re: Petition: Flash Catalyst must survive

2012-01-10 Thread Stephane Beladaci
Flex has no competition in the RIA space I do not consider HTML remotely close to a RIA technology, it's a W3C standard and as such it will never be capable to evolve and innovate as rapidly as other technologies that are not controlled and crippled by competing interest of the giants who all sit a

Re: Petition: Flash Catalyst must survive

2012-01-10 Thread Stephane Beladaci
What about Spark skinning and performance? Does Spark skinning affects or not the performance of an application? I personally really like Spark and tend to prefer skins over lose CSS styling, however I heard from some colleague that Spark skinning had negative effect on performance, I was never abl

Re: Petition: Flash Catalyst must survive

2012-01-10 Thread Stephane Beladaci
I think it is time for us to stop trying to make sense of Adobe's decisions and strategy, it is not the first time Adobe spent a lot of time and effort for nothing (Flash Lite anyone?). We should not base any choice or decision on what Adobe did or did not, their interest (selling tools and apparen