Re: Flash Builder 4.7 Beta with Apache Flex 4.8 support

2012-09-21 Thread Raju Bitter
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Douglas McCarroll wrote: >> How do you configure FB 4.7 64 bit to use 5GB of memory? > > I edit the FlashBuilder.ini file. This file lives in the same directory as > FlashBuilder.exe. > > I edit these two line like this: > > -Xms5120m > -Xmx5120m Just make sure th

Re: Which tag [] should we use for Falcon discussions?

2012-09-17 Thread Raju Bitter
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Right, I forgot about tags. :) > > I'm sure [COMPILER] is probably what we want since most people know what a > compiler is but not what a falcon is in the sense of this project. :) > Mike Yes, that makes more sense.

Which tag [] should we use for Falcon discussions?

2012-09-17 Thread Raju Bitter
Wouldn't it make sense to use a tag for the Falcon discussions? E.g. [FALCON] or [COMPILER]? - Raju

Re: Stricter syntax checks with Falcon ActionScript compiler

2012-09-15 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks, that's exactly was I was looking for! - Raju

Stricter syntax checks with Falcon ActionScript compiler

2012-09-14 Thread Raju Bitter
Is there any document listing the differences between Falcon's ActionScript compiler and the Flex 4.6 or 4.8 SDK online somewhere? I've been running into some problems compiling the OpenLaszlo kernel and foundation classes, which have been compiling without any problems with previous versions of th

Re: Manifest-only JARs

2012-09-14 Thread Raju Bitter
I did a quick test with various Ant versions. I see the warning in 1.7.0, but don't see the warning with 1.7.1 or 1.8.x. - Raju

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-14 Thread Raju Bitter
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Om wrote: > Raju, > > If I may suggest, it would make life easier for everyone if you contribute > via patches instead of as comments on the JIRA page. > > For one, it looks like you will be contributing more than 2 line changes > going forward :-) This exercise w

Re: Manifest-only JARs

2012-09-14 Thread Raju Bitter
Are you using Ant 1.7? That's a known bug with Ant 1.7.0 https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43946 - Raju

Re: Jenkins and Falcon

2012-09-14 Thread Raju Bitter
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Yes, I think it should build on Linux, and I believe Raju said it he tried > building on Linux and it worked. Yes, that's correct. I've been building Falcon on Linux without any problems.

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-14 Thread Raju Bitter
Oh, that's interesting, it worked for me without the 'external/' path for antlr.jar and common-cli.jar. But maybe I had those JARs somewhere else in my classpath.

Re: Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks, Omar. That's what I guessed, I remember that the roadmap wiki page was changed long ago. Strange that the old page is still online. - Raju

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
No, I don't. So go ahead and commit the change. :-)

Re: Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
There's still a Flex wiki page called roadmap page somewhere up on apache.org: https://cwiki.apache.org/FLEX/roadmap.html Quoting that page: " we're right now deciding the roadmap for next releases of Apache Flex" You might want to take that offline, it's a bit confusing. Adobe published a documen

Re: Is there anything the community can do to help you testing or documenting Falcon and the build process?

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > My top priorities currently are: > > 1. Get the top-level Ant targets working properly. For example, 'ant javadoc' > currently produces compilation errors, probably due to a classpath problem, > and 'ant main' produces an mxmlc which doesn't

Classpath error for Falcon compiler javadoc Ant target / ant.jar is missing on the classpath

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
The errors related to the javadoc target in compiler/build.xml are related to an incomplete class path. When adding 'ant.jar' to the classpath, all errors go away. Created a JIRA issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33196 - Raju

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-33199) Falcon compiler javadoc build shows errors due to missing classpath dependencies

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter (JIRA)
Raju Bitter created FLEX-33199: -- Summary: Falcon compiler javadoc build shows errors due to missing classpath dependencies Key: FLEX-33199 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33199 Project

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
With that Class-path entry in the manifest file I can execute mxmlc without any problems. - Raju

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
Gordon, I saw that you added the property 'compiler.jar.dependencies' to the compiler/build.xml. The property contains the correct JARs, but the 'lib/' folder is not needed (since compiler.jar is in the same folder as the referenced JAR files. The property value should be: I've updated the JIRA

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33196) Incomplete classpath in MANIFEST.MF of falcon-mxmlc.jar

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33196?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13454831#comment-13454831 ] Raju Bitter commented on FLEX-33196: As of revision 1384279, the classpath within

Apache Flex roadmap page in the wiki [was: I was tired of waiting.]

2012-09-13 Thread Raju Bitter
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> Okay then, is there a road-map or a plan in this project?? > Being an open source project there is no roadmap as such. People are free to > work on whatever they want when they want. > > If enough users of the SDK think a feature is

Re: Javadoc for Falcon

2012-09-12 Thread Raju Bitter
>> I'd check a zipped version of the docs into Subversion. > I'm pretty sure that it is an "Apache Way" no no to put binary files into > the repository if it can be avoided. In this case, I don't believe zipping > up generated docs is an unavoidable approach. I think the decision should be based

Re: Is there anything the community can do to help you testing or documenting Falcon and the build process?

2012-09-12 Thread Raju Bitter
One of things mentioned on the Wiki is that there's currently no binary distribution available. "No binary distributions are available. Perhaps someone will volunteer to set up automated builds and a build download page?" What exactly would such a binary distribution be? Would it be the files of F

Is there anything the community can do to help you testing or documenting Falcon and the build process?

2012-09-12 Thread Raju Bitter
Gordon, It's great to see the Falcon source code contributed to Apache Flex. Thanks to you and everyone else at Adobe who made that possible. That's a very valuable contribution! Is there anything the community can do to help you with the Falcon code? Testing the build, updating the documentation

Re: Javadoc for Falcon

2012-09-11 Thread Raju Bitter
I'd check a zipped version of the docs into Subversion. Easy to download, and you don't have a large number of generated files in the repository. Most people interested in the docs will probably want the code anyway, I'm not sure the docs need to be posted to a public URL. - Raju

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33196) Incomplete classpath in MANIFEST.MF of falcon-mxmlc.jar

2012-09-11 Thread Raju Bitter (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33196?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13452996#comment-13452996 ] Raju Bitter commented on FLEX-33196: The manifest file is generated as part of

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-33196) Incomplete classpath in MANIFEST.MF of falcon-mxmlc.jar

2012-09-11 Thread Raju Bitter (JIRA)
Raju Bitter created FLEX-33196: -- Summary: Incomplete classpath in MANIFEST.MF of falcon-mxmlc.jar Key: FLEX-33196 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33196 Project: Apache Flex

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-11 Thread Raju Bitter
I've created a new issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33196

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-11 Thread Raju Bitter
Here is the corresponding snippet from the jar Ant target in compiler/build.xml (line #281): Should I file a bug? - Raju

Re: Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-11 Thread Raju Bitter
I found the problem: the classpath is not set correctly in falcon-mxmlc.jar. Here is the content of MANIFEST.MF: Manifest-Version: 1.0 Ant-Version: Apache Ant 1.8.2 Created-By: 1.6.0_35-b10 (Sun Microsystems Inc.) Sealed: false Implementation-Title: ActionScript Compiler - MXMLC Command Line Compi

Classpath problem using mxmlc command with Falcon SDK

2012-09-11 Thread Raju Bitter
I've followed the README file, and manage to run the build process of Falcon on Ubuntu 12.04 JDK 1.6.0_35 using the Ant target ant dist.flex.sdk A ZIP file with the SDK is is generated in compiler/generated/dist/falcon.zip. When I unzip the SDK and try to run the mxmlc using the shell script,

Re: Falcon source code has been donated

2012-09-10 Thread Raju Bitter
Following the instructions in the README file, I was able to build Falcon on Ubuntu 12.04 with Java 1.6.0_35. The compiler build ran through, and I was able to generate the SDK ZIP doing an 'ant dist.flex.sdk'. That's fantastic! I remember that you said the tests will be missing on the initial cod

Re: Falcon source code has been donated

2012-09-10 Thread Raju Bitter
Great news, I'll try it out immediately. :-)

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-29 Thread Raju Bitter
And FalconJS or a ActionScript to JavaScript cross-compiler should definitely be separate project.

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-29 Thread Raju Bitter
In the case of OpenLaszlo, the decision was made to use JavaScript 2 as the main language for integration. OpenLaszlo has separate sprite implementation for the HTML5/DHTML runtime and ActionScript 3. tags in OpenLaszlo are objects without a visual representation (not in the display list). When a

Re: Falcon update

2012-08-07 Thread Raju Bitter
That's great news! Thanks for the update! - Raju

Re: [OT] ApacheCon Europe 2012

2012-07-30 Thread Raju Bitter
Forgot to mention that: OpenMeetings just released the 2.0 version as a first release as an Apache Incubator project. http://blogs.apache.org/openmeetings/date/20120726 - Raju

Re: [OT] ApacheCon Europe 2012

2012-07-30 Thread Raju Bitter
The Apache OpenMeetings team is going to be presenting at the conference (open source web conferencing solution based on OpenLaszlo). I can integrate the Flex 4.8.0 SDK into OpenLaszlo, and if the OpenMeetings would agree, they could be the first Apache Incubator project using the Apache Flex SDK t

Re: Does Adobe have a plan to support Windows 8 metro app and windows phone?

2012-07-24 Thread Raju Bitter
Even if it's not an app, Chrome for Windows 8 Metro will have the normal Flash Player without a whitelist built into the browser: http://blog.chromium.org/2012/06/try-chrome-in-metro-mode.html

Re: Error on running ant build script from within Flash Builder on OSX

2012-07-23 Thread Raju Bitter
That's strange, I never ran into such a problem. Did the -d32 option fix it?

Re: Error on running ant build script from within Flash Builder on OSX

2012-07-22 Thread Raju Bitter
>From the Flex 4.6 SDK docs at http://help.adobe.com/en_US/flex/using/WS2db454920e96a9e51e63e3d11c0bf69084-7fd9.html "Note: You must use a 32-bit version of the JDK, version 1.5 or later. The command line compilers do not work with a 64-bit JDK."

Re: Error on running ant build script from within Flash Builder on OSX

2012-07-22 Thread Raju Bitter
Are you trying to build the SDK, or are you just trying to use the SDK?

Re: Error on running ant build script from within Flash Builder on OSX

2012-07-22 Thread Raju Bitter
Looks like you are trying to build with a 64bit JVM/JDK, but only 32 bit are supported. The problem might go away if you set the default JVM argument to -d32 (for 32 bit) Eclipse→Preferences→Java→Installed JRE and add default JVM argument -d32 (must be small d)

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Flex 4.8.0 (apache-flex-sdk-4.8.0-incubating)

2012-07-20 Thread Raju Bitter
Congratulations, fantastic job by all of you! I never thought that you'd be able to release a first version of the Apache Flex SDK so quickly!

Re: Is it possible to use Apache Flex 4.8 when targeting Flash Player 11.4?

2012-07-19 Thread Raju Bitter
>> I expect nothing short of a wiki page explaining how you did it ;-) >> >> BTW, I just noticed that they bumped up the swf-version to 17. Make sure >> you change the "swf-version" element in /frameworks/flex-config.xml to "17" >> as well. >> >> Thanks, >> Om Thanks Om, yes, I saw that they chan

Re: Is it possible to use Apache Flex 4.8 when targeting Flash Player 11.4?

2012-07-19 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks a lot, Om. Haven't had the time to try, but will do and report my results back to the list. :-) Thanks, Raju

Is it possible to use Apache Flex 4.8 when targeting Flash Player 11.4?

2012-07-19 Thread Raju Bitter
I just read the release notes for Flash Player 11.4, which can be found here: http://labsdownload.adobe.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/shared/air3-4_flashplayer11-4_p1_releasenotes.pdf In the section "Authoring for Flash Player 11.4" it's mentioned that we should use the 4.5.1 Flex SDK, and no

Re: Falcon update

2012-07-15 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for the udpate, Gordon. That's very good news! - Raju

Re: time to help test the release candidate

2012-06-26 Thread Raju Bitter
Great, thanks, look forward to testing that functionality. - Raju

Re: time to help test the release candidate

2012-06-25 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks, found it, is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33106 now. - Raju

Re: time to help test the release candidate

2012-06-24 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks, Carol. I'll do some tests later this week. But I remember that it was mentioned on the list that there might be a change regarding CFF fonts compared to the 4.6.0. Has there been any change for that with the 4.8.0 SDK (like requiring an external to convert fonts for CFF)? - Raju

Re: [OT] HTML and Flex layouts

2012-06-24 Thread Raju Bitter
The W3C had a working group within the "Rich Web Client Activity" named "Declarative Formats for Applications and User Interfaces". Unfortunately the group stopped working in 2007, http://www.w3.org/TR/dfaui/ The goals: "This WG's Charter includes a deliverable named Specification of a declarative

Re: flex-dev contributer died unexpectedly

2012-06-08 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for the update, Dave. I've never met Doug, but I can imagine how hard the situation is for his wife and the whole family. Life can be so tough sometimes. On the other hand, it's great to see this kind of support for his wife from the Flex community! Raju

Re: RIP Doug Arthur

2012-05-31 Thread Raju Bitter
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Dimitri k. wrote: > Maybe it's a stupid idea, but how about giving the next release (after the > parity one) the codename "Dougart" (his twitter handle)? > He was so much involved in Apache Flex, I feel it would be right to make the > first real Apache Flex release

Re: Apache Flex 4.8, playerglobal.swc versions, FP 11.x adoption, FP versions & security

2012-05-24 Thread Raju Bitter
1) -target-player option On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > I just learned this tidbit that relates to this thread.  -target-player is > parsed and is used to replace the tokens > > {targetPlayerMajorVersion} and {targetPlayerMinorVersion} that appear in > any of the config f

Re: Apache Flex 4.8, playerglobal.swc versions, FP 11.x adoption, FP versions & security

2012-05-24 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks a lot to all of you for the valuable answers. Would it make sense to store this information somewhere on a Wiki page? I'd volunteer to create such a page (summarizing information on SWF file format, target player version, supported versions of playerglobal.swc, etc. If we create a Wiki page

Re: Apache Flex 4.8, playerglobal.swc versions, FP 11.x adoption, FP versions & security

2012-05-23 Thread Raju Bitter
Question #5, FP security: Apple announced that with a recent security update FP will be disabled in Safari, if you don't have the most recent version installed. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/safari-5-1-7-disables-older-flash-plugins-for-increased-security/ That would mean, if you have FP 10

Re: Apache Flex 4.8, playerglobal.swc versions, FP 11.x adoption, FP versions & security

2012-05-23 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks a lot for your answers, Oleg. Regarding 2), the -swf-version option Here's the first line of output of the swfdump tool applied to a file compiled with the 4.6 SDK: Here's the same line of output for an SWF compiled using the 4.5.0 SDK: The @version attribute and the values here refer t

Apache Flex 4.8, playerglobal.swc versions, FP 11.x adoption, FP versions & security

2012-05-23 Thread Raju Bitter
I have a few questions regarding the target player for the 4.8 SDK, the -swf-version option, playerglobal.swc version, etc. I'd be thankful for any input. 1) Apache Flex 4.8 and target-player option I've read in the Adobe Flex 4.6 docs, that the minimum value for the -target-player option is 11.1

Re: Preliminary release candidate of Apache Flex 4.8.0 (for developers only)

2012-05-11 Thread Raju Bitter
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Mark Shen wrote: > which new features are added to 4.8 from version 4.6.Thanks http://people.apache.org/~cframpton/ApacheFlexRC/readme "Apache Flex 4.8.0 is a parity release from Apache of Adobe Flex 4.6."

Re: Preliminary release candidate of Apache Flex 4.8.0 (for developers only)

2012-05-11 Thread Raju Bitter
In case you don't know that: OpenMeetings is another Apache incubator project, which is based on OpenLaszlo - and therefore will be using a future Apache Flex release. http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/

Re: Preliminary release candidate of Apache Flex 4.8.0 (for developers only)

2012-05-11 Thread Raju Bitter
OpenLaszlo's LZPix demo application compiled to SWF11 with Apache Flex 4.8 http://www.flickr.com/photos/semanticmemories/7176235824/in/photostream/lightbox/

Re: Preliminary release candidate of Apache Flex 4.8.0 (for developers only)

2012-05-11 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for all the work you have done to create this preliminary release. I have been upgrading the Flex SDK in OpenLaszlo to 4.6.0 in the past weeks (the project had still been using 4.5.0), and did a quick test run with Apache Flex 4.8.0: Everything seems fine, I can build the OpenLaszlo SWF11 ke

Re: SWF header version tag numbering scheme

2012-04-17 Thread Raju Bitter
Alex & Justin, thanks for the responses. The information is probably somewhere on the Adobe website, but I haven't found a complete list. - Raju

SWF header version tag numbering scheme

2012-04-17 Thread Raju Bitter
Does anyone know if there's a complete list of SWF header version tags in combination with the Flex SDKs? The SWF header version tag (4th byte value in the SWF file) used to be identical with the Flash Player version (I think until version number 9), but for the 4.6 SDK 14 is being written into th

Re: ApacheFlex twitter account

2012-03-28 Thread Raju Bitter
I've already handed the account over to the PPMC. As you can see, they already put up the new Apache Flex logo. http://twitter.com/#!/apacheflex - Raju

Re: ApacheFlex twitter account

2012-03-26 Thread Raju Bitter
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Thanks very much! I'll send them to the Flex private list so that the > PPMC can take over. Excellent!

RE: ApacheFlex twitter account

2012-03-26 Thread Raju Bitter
> Is anyone on this list maintaining this? Would it be possible to get > occasional > updates out on twitter for people who aren't sure about joining the ML yet but > that might still have some interest? I created the account back in December to secure it for the project. Told Bertrand Delacretaz

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - don't listen to Steve!

2012-02-11 Thread Raju Bitter
> As a Linux user and developer, I have always hated how the Linux Flash > runtime is always seems to be a >few releases behind Adobe's Windows and Mac versions, how Adobe's content >creation tools (Photoshop, > Dreamweaver, CS3, and even Flex Builder) aren't available on Linux AT ALL. I remember

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-01-28 Thread Raju Bitter
Not sure what you are trying to here, but that's exactly the kind of tone/message an open source community doesn't need! - Raju

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-27 Thread Raju Bitter
You might want to rename this thread to reflect the change in discussion (from Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU to Accessibility (desktop and mobile) in Flex apps. - Raju

Re: Red Tamarin ( Rocking Flex on CLI )

2012-01-21 Thread Raju Bitter
Adobe already has server-side JavaScript, which they actually call "Server-side ActionScript", probably for marketing reasons (why would you want to call JavaScript ActionScript?): http://help.adobe.com/en_US/flashmediaserver/ssaslr/WS506b356fe242b04e73085b151300e983f4e-8000.html "Server-Side Actio

Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture

2012-01-19 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/19 Alex Harui : > I was in the Falcon code in November.  It was way easier to figure out how > to make changes than with MXMLC.  Even if it is not documented, I think it > will be easier to make progress that with the Falcon code base. I agree, that sounds like it would be much better to use

Re: Is FalconJS generated code drawing UI components on the DOM or on a Canvas?

2012-01-18 Thread Raju Bitter
In the Flex Summit video, they said it's based on HTML + JS + SVG.

Re: Flex 3.x SDK?

2012-01-18 Thread Raju Bitter
Sounds like - from an enterprise perspective - the 3.x SDK is more important to the community. And those are probably some of the largest Flex applications in use. Does Adobe have any numbers on how many people are using 3.x vs 4.x?

Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture

2012-01-17 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for the detailed update on Falcon. Sounds very promising, and it's understandable that it will take some time until the Falcon code base is at a stage where Adobe feels comfortable with contributing the code. And mid-2012 sounds much better than the end of the year. Do you think that it's s

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Raju Bitter
Amit, I've voiced my concerns around the runtime a few times, both in the incubator mailing lists, and in this mailing list. http://old.nabble.com/-PROPOSAL--Flex-for-Apache-Incubator-to33005429.html#a33012665 http://markmail.org/search/?q=+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.flex-dev+avm Roy Fielding sa

Re: It's Friday, where's the source code?

2012-01-14 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/14 Alex Harui : > I am happy to announce that legal has finished its review of the framework > source code. > We are awaiting approvals from upper management.  Hopefully they are around > and > will approve shortly and we can deliver the source code by end-of-day Monday. Great news, Alex!

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

2012-01-14 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for the update on Falcon, that sounds promising!

Re: Have the SWF 11 and SWF 12 file format specification ever been published?

2012-01-13 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks, Alex. Good to know!

Re: Have the SWF 11 and SWF 12 file format specification ever been published?

2012-01-12 Thread Raju Bitter
That should have been SWF 11 and SWF 11.1 of course.

Have the SWF 11 and SWF 12 file format specification ever been published?

2012-01-12 Thread Raju Bitter
Have the SWF 11 and SWF 12 file format specification been published by Adobe? It seems that only the SWF 10 version is online? http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/swf/pdf/swf_file_format_spec_v10.pdf Folks have been asking the same question in the Adobe forums, but never got an answer

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

2012-01-11 Thread Raju Bitter
> I will repeat my cautionary statement that we are working in a constrained > environment and will likely need to cheat on occasion. Right, we only need to know when we should cheat. :-)

Re: Raising barriers

2012-01-11 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/11 Paul Evans : > > On 11 Jan 2012, at 02:04, Rui Silva wrote: > >> look like we're trying really hard to find ways this project could or >> should fail > > I have to say I personally didn't reach that conclusion from anything so far > written. Thanks, Paul. I think that everyone within the

Re: Raising barriers

2012-01-11 Thread Raju Bitter
I've thought again about Rui's comments, and I think he's right: The first thing Apache Flex needs is a positive start, and not additional barriers. The Apache Flex community has to proof that the community is capable of releasing a first version of Apache Flex, and to have the project infrastruct

Re: Raising barriers

2012-01-11 Thread Raju Bitter
And you are right, Alex and Carol are doing an amazing job, which I'm very thankful for.

Re: Raising barriers

2012-01-11 Thread Raju Bitter
> I'll take this chance to make a statement of intent: I will not engage nor > answer to threads that basically deal with things that have no real > influence on the immediate future of Flex and how we can bring that to > fruition. Good point, but at the beginning of the project I like to have a cl

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/10 Peter Elst : > Thats part of the opportunity that Apache Flex is opening up, technology > innovation drives interest. There obviously is some uncertainty right now, > up to us to get it on the rails again. Very true! - Raju

Re: General interest in an AS3 -> JavaScript cross-compilation feature for Flex?

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for the info/links, Dimitri. 2012/1/10 Dimitri k. : > From what I heard, the problem is not really about the language but about > the rendering performances I still believe that it's possible. Laszlo Systems has created a very large Flash based RIA called Laszlo Webtop. They can cross-compi

Re: General interest in an AS3 -> JavaScript cross-compilation feature for Flex?

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for your response, Jonathan! 2012/1/10 Jonathan Campos : > Long story short. I wouldn't hold my breath for what Adobe releases as > Falcon JS. Not to say that the devs that have worked on it are doing a bad > job, but it is incomplete and won't be intended as a final product. That's what I

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/10 Matthew Poole : > I dont think it necessarily follows that because the compiler is donated > that control over the language is assumed. Though it would be fantastic to > add some of the languges features that have been added to HaXe... I'm not sure if there are other Adobe products genera

Re: my suggestions

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor : > sorry for starting a flame war. You didn't start a flame war. :-) > i just meant, that if flash really dies > (what is the purpose of the media), flex also. recreating it in javascript > is not an option. Have you seen the Falcon JS demos in the Flex Summit video? http:/

General interest in an AS3 -> JavaScript cross-compilation feature for Flex?

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
Since the first announcement of Falcon's cross compilation feature Falcon JS, I've been following the blog posts and discussions around cross-compilation of ActionScript to JavaScript. How much interest is there in the Flex community to have JavaScript generation as a future feature in Flex? Since

Re: my suggestions

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
And Peace! Yes, forgot that. No need to fight! :-) - Raju

Re: my suggestions

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
> This project should not, in my opinion, focus on the actual runtime except > for the very specific cases > were it is absolutely necessary. I say that we deal with issues regarding > runtime and language when > they appear letting the community decide how to best deal with them. Don't really ag

Re: my suggestions

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor : > 1) we have to work together with Adobe, and help the press recognize that > Flash is not the devil's tool. > Media is talking about the death of Flash, etc.. because stupid designers > calculate filters 24 fps in runtime. We have to convince the media, > therefore the peo

ActionScript and Apache Flex

2012-01-10 Thread Raju Bitter
How does the evolution of ActionScript relate to Apache Flex? If the ActionScript standard would change - and the language would be extended or modified - who would be making that decision? Is there an "official standard" of the language available to the public, and what are Adobe's plans for Actio

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for all the logo drafts we've seen so far, great work! I really like Carlos' first version with the full arc. Very stylish and dynamic. I don't think the readability will be a problem. Both words - Apache and Flex - look good in written form, and I'd prefer to not have an iconic logo like S

Re: Apache Flex Team Blog

2012-01-06 Thread Raju Bitter
up the @ApacheFlex twitter >>> and facebook handle? I would recommend that 'someone' be assigned a PR role. >>> >> >> > -- - Raju Bitter | Software Architect cell: +49 (0) 176 322 011 96 fax: +49 (0) 8821 68 69 08 29 email: rajubit...@googlemail.com Germany

Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-06 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/6 Alex Harui : > Update on the timeline:  Untangling the donated code from the not-donated > code is turning out to be trickier than we hoped.  It won't happen this > week.  We also have to do some legal scrubbing before an official Adobe > person can sign the Software Grant form. That's wha

Re: Flex performance

2012-01-05 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/5 Jeffry Houser : >  I'm not sure this needs a new component framework, or set of components. >  (It might, but I just don't know).  There are already two approaches to > this in "early" development.  Falcon-JS by Adobe and I believe Michael > Labriola had done some experiments around that.

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