Auxiliary Flex SDK / SWC

Quote from Alex in another thread, "...not everything belongs in the Flex project. For example, we have already discussed that application frameworks probably don't belong in the Flex project." I don't think the main Flex SDK should have every component in it but in today's world, developers have

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

it will materialize for sure (the question is when) if they want to "invest in gaming", currently even low end machines have at least two physical cores. But I am afraid that the api given to the user will be not comparable to what we call worker i.e. in java. I speculate but in order to not compli

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

Flex could also add features for making the native flash printing system easier to use. Some of the functionality I can think of: - Handle scaling based on DPI and page setup options (page size, orientation etc.). - Handle multi-page printing. - Make Flex components printable, e.g. wit

Re: Mailing list footers?

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > There were some discussions recently about adding an automatic footer > to all Flex mailing list messages. > > I suggest adding just this: > > -- > See http://incubator.apache.org/flex/mailing-lists.html for information > ab

Re: Mailing list footers?

sounds sensible... On 6 February 2012 06:45, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > There were some discussions recently about adding an automatic footer > to all Flex mailing list messages. > > I suggest adding just this: > > -- > See http://incubator.apache.org/flex/mailing-lists.html for infor

Mailing list footers?

Hi, There were some discussions recently about adding an automatic footer to all Flex mailing list messages. I suggest adding just this: -- See http://incubator.apache.org/flex/mailing-lists.html for information about this mailing list, including subscribe/unsubscribe instructions And we

Re: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

Nick, that sounds quirky and interesting, cant wait to peek onto those tests yours Martin On 06/02/2012 02:05, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: Martin, There are no unit tests for each module. They do not exist. Adobe has typically only done functional testing (using their custom testing suite).

Re: [VOTE] final vote for logo color(s) selection

+1 for blue logo Keep Walking, ~ Sandeep On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Doug Arthur wrote: > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > a) leftmost 4-colored logo > > (Binding) > + 1 multi-colored logo >

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

Multithreading (actually, it is a psudo-thread using child workers) was talked about publicly at MAX a few months ago. They have not committed to anything, but they did state that they have it on their current roadmap. To us, that means that we may see it in a future release of the FP (hopefully

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Doug McCune wrote: > > Saying nothing changed means you haven't been paying attention. HTML/JS is > changing faster than almost any other technology stack out there at the > moment. It has more momentum and developer interest than almost any other > technology stac

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

Agreed, I do not believe we need Flash Player to be opened source to do great stuff with Apache Flex, as I think you mentioned before Alex the cost for Flex is now 0 since the community will be developing so even with the Flash Player as it is we should be able to keep pushing Flex further than Ado

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

On 2/5/2012 10:03 PM, Doug McCune wrote: http://blogs.adobe.com/**avikchaudhuri/2012/01/17/the-** v8-myth-why-javascript-is-not-**a-worthy-competitor/ I'd argue the important thing is not the

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

> > http://blogs.adobe.com/**avikchaudhuri/2012/01/17/the-** > v8-myth-why-javascript-is-not-**a-worthy-competitor/ > I'd argue the important thing is not the current delta between JS and AS per

Re: EventCollector into 4.6

On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: FRANKLIN GARZON [mailto:fgarzo...@hotmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:14 PM >> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: EventCollector into 4.6 >> >> >> Are some other open source comunities

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

On 2/5/2012 7:12 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Doug McCune wrote: Just a final sentence: We are in 2012, and nothing changed. HTML5/JS/CSS stack continues with the same problems and is inferior to what Flex/Flash give us. I think 2013 will be again the same... This is

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

I think some of us, me at the first place, need to get used to the Apache 'ideology': just contribute and successful ideas will make it into the SDK. Haykel On 5 February 2012 21:17, Peter Elst wrote: > > We as a Flex community should say we build on top on Flash and we are > happy > > to do

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

@Peter I agree with you. But i was not trying to define was Flex is i was just saying what it is now. If Fley has to go HTML5 it should be because is the right thing to do not because HTML5 is the buzzword of today or because there is no Flash on the IPhone, 2012/2/5 Peter Elst > > We as a F

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

> We as a Flex community should say we build on top on Flash and we are happy > to do so. We dont want to be a new HTML5 library. I think we should all avoid trying to define what Flex should or should not be and just contribute and let it evolve organically - with Apache there is no need for ro

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

I think it s important to know his identitity as a community. Flex to me is framework made to build RIAs on top of the flash player. And there is nothing wrong with that !!! The first day we start cross compiling to HTML/JS/CSS is the day Flex will start going away. Because why should one use Fle

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 10:02 -0800, Doug McCune wrote: > This is incredibly false and shortsighted. In the HTML/JS world an > INCREDIBLE amount changed in 2012... Thanks for that Doug. I've gone from being a reluctant investigator of JavaScript to enthusiastic one recently as - whilst the language

Re: Status of INFRA-4380

Hi, Infrastructure has what they need to start the JIRA import process. There are two steps and it will take some more time. Please watch the JIRA issue to receive status updates. The process is import to a Test instance and check for conflicts with production. If none then schedule the import

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

Sure Adobe efforts will benefit Flex enterprise targets, but community has to wait and see for such Adobe releases just as we are waiting to see FP supporting multi-threading etc. 2012/2/5 Jarosław Szczepankiewicz > Adobe efforts in the area of gaming and video will benefit also flex > targets:

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

Adobe efforts in the area of gaming and video will benefit also flex targets: perfomance improvements, memory consumption, support for workers all of this will benefit also enterprise software. 2012/2/5 Nicholas Kwiatkowski : > Even then, I doubt we will ever see the Flash Player Open-Sourced.  Ad

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Doug McCune wrote: >> >> Just a final sentence: We are in 2012, and nothing changed. HTML5/JS/CSS >> stack continues with the same problems and is inferior to what Flex/Flash >> give us. I think 2013 will be again the same... > > > This is incredibly false and shortsig

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

> > Just a final sentence: We are in 2012, and nothing changed. HTML5/JS/CSS > stack continues with the same problems and is inferior to what Flex/Flash > give us. I think 2013 will be again the same... This is incredibly false and shortsighted. In the HTML/JS world an INCREDIBLE amount changed i

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

Even then, I doubt we will ever see the Flash Player Open-Sourced. Adobe depends on a LOT of 3rd party licensed code in the FP, all of which would not be available should the technology become open. An open-source FP would be the same FP we see today. We have our limitations, and we know what th

Re: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

Martin, There are no unit tests for each module. They do not exist. Adobe has typically only done functional testing (using their custom testing suite). One of the early goals of at least some of the PPMC members is to make the SDK unit-testable. -Nick On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Martin

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

Hello Omar, as far as I can tell we were talking about flex specific printing. Having problems with the flash player is a reality that needs to be dealt with. For one: If we encounter bugs during implementation we should document & report them properly. But also: We need to choose a implement

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Marc Pires wrote: > I agree with you guys, Flash player printing support is terrible. I'd like > to work on solid solution for that. Let's see how it develops as soon as > the source code is available. > I've lost track of the amount of times we've stated on this list

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

I agree with you guys, Flash player printing support is terrible. I'd like to work on solid solution for that. Let's see how it develops as soon as the source code is available. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 2/4/12 8:06 AM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > > > Hello J

Re: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

Hello Alex, Thank you for the clarification. I sure sounds like a lot of good reasons as to why this might take a while. Your efforts are awesome! However: I have another thought popping up: Do you think once you arrived at the unit tests it would take a lot of effort to publish the unit tes

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5

On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 15:03 +0100, Carlos Rovira wrote: > That's key point. We should maintain and evolve Flex and stay away of > discussions and HTML5 things. > Just a final sentence: We are in 2012, and nothing changed. HTML5/JS/CSS > stack continues with the same problems and is inferior to what

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

> > we should concentrate on making (or > keeping) it the best technology for developing enterprise applications for > multiple devices. > > That's key point. We should maintain and evolve Flex and stay away of discussions and HTML5 things. Just a final sentence: We are in 2012, and nothing change

Re: Apache Flex logo colors

Enough with the logo already. The voting has determined a logo that the majority feel is great. In any case if Apache Flex lives up to and exceeds the expectations, that so many have people have of it now, then even a logo less worthy than what is at #1 now, will be forgiven. But if it turns out t

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

On 2/4/12 8:06 AM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > Hello Jack, > > I came to the conclusion that printing is basically broken in flash. I > didn't manage to get a solid printing solution done with Flash even with > years of experience and two weeks time last October. Pages were > distorted, missi

Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity

On 2/4/12 5:24 PM, "Stephane Beladaci" wrote: > We will only see the Flash Player being open sourced if Google buy > Adobe, otherwise Adobe will rather kill it than letting competition > benefit from it. OK, that's enough speculation for now. Let's move on. I will probably ask my management

Re: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

On 2/4/12 6:00 PM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > I am wondering what kept the adobe team from publishing the unit tests > with the rest of > the code to the whiteboard. Every file Adobe donates has to be scrubbed. Carol and I are fully booked getting SVN history and JIRA. Next is the compiler

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

Indeed brilliant link! Thanks. However the article about weak references: http://blogs.adobe.com/bparadie/2011/12/26/proxy-dictionary/ lets me shudder: weak event listeners are very, very important in the current architecture model. I wonder how many (well used) flex concepts need to be dropped

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 04:19 -0500, superabe superabe wrote: > All those interested in cross-compiling AS to JS *should* be following this > blog and giving feedback. > > http://blogs.adobe.com/bparadie/ Brilliant. Thanks for that link. David.

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

How can we dump support for a technology in favor of another that is inferior? I think everybody knows that HTML5 will not reach Flash in its features in the next couple of years, and should it ever happen (will it ever?), I can imagine the following things happening: - Flash will have evolved

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

All those interested in cross-compiling AS to JS *should* be following this blog and giving feedback. http://blogs.adobe.com/bparadie/ On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Tink wrote: > Gordon Smith from Adobe who is working on the compiler posted the most > useful and up to date info to this list

Re: [VOTE] final vote for logo color(s) selection

+1 leftmost 4-colored logo Andy. -- Andy Fleming Halogenics Level 5, 530 Collins Street Melbourne, Victoria 3000 Australia. T: (+61) 3 9024-7712 http://www.halogenics.com

Re: [Discussion] Flex 5 and non-SWF targets: Skinning

Gordon Smith from Adobe who is working on the compiler posted the most useful and up to date info to this list a few weeks ago. Tink David Arno wrote: >> On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 07:56 +0100, Jarosław Szczepankiewicz wrote: >> On the blog "all my circuits" are some details about how the translati