Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread Erik de Bruin
> How about the designer, good enough to win our contest, determine how they > want to take feedback. No design by committee. +1, with passion :-) EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread James Roland Cabresos
I Agree.. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > Yea, that's more along the lines of what I meant. I don't think it needs > major tweaks myself but I think the designer of the logo is best suited to > tell us right? >

Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Yea, that's more along the lines of what I meant. I don't think it needs major tweaks myself but I think the designer of the logo is best suited to tell us right?

Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Jan 27, 2012 12:28 AM, "Omar Gonzalez" wrote: > > I don't think there is any need for another contest. I think we'll have to > discuss how to proceed with having tweaks to refine the winning logo. > > -omar How about the designer, good enough to win our contest, determine how they want to take

Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread Omar Gonzalez
I don't think there is any need for another contest. I think we'll have to discuss how to proceed with having tweaks to refine the winning logo. -omar

Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread James Roland Cabresos
OMG... please, not another contest... On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:26 PM, James Ong wrote: > I'm thinking if there a need for a contest whoever can tweak #42 logo > with better design? > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Jonathan Campos > wrote: > > I would remove any fallen f discussion and just

Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread James Ong
I'm thinking if there a need for a contest whoever can tweak #42 logo with better design? On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > I would remove any fallen f discussion and just be positive about good > proposals. Wouldn't want to be picking at anyone. > On Jan 26, 2012 11:54 PM

Re: [BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread Jonathan Campos
I would remove any fallen f discussion and just be positive about good proposals. Wouldn't want to be picking at anyone. On Jan 26, 2012 11:54 PM, "Doug Arthur" wrote: > Here's my blog post proposal, I will post it tomorrow if no one opposes. > -Doug > > --- > Logo Contest Update:

[BLOG Post Proposal] Logo Contest Update

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
Here's my blog post proposal, I will post it tomorrow if no one opposes. -Doug --- Logo Contest Update: The logo contest was a major milestone for our project. The community and PPMC members came together and voted on a logo, and were in-sync for the entire ride. The community and

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 26, 2012 9:39 PM, "Ted Patrick" wrote: > > Hello Apache Flex. My name is Ted Patrick, I run developer relations > at Sencha and formerly worked at Adobe on Flex as an evangelist and > have used Flash since it was FutureSplash and Flex since 1.5. > > I thought I might clarify some things...

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Ted Patrick
Hello Apache Flex. My name is Ted Patrick, I run developer relations at Sencha and formerly worked at Adobe on Flex as an evangelist and have used Flash since it was FutureSplash and Flex since 1.5. I thought I might clarify some things... We launched a marketing campaign to talk to Flex develope

Fwd: svn commit: r803382 - in /websites/production/flex: ./ content/flex/index.html

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
And another for the front page. We'll update the logo space (tweaking allowed) when we get the ICLA and sources from Tomasz Maciag. Thanks everyone! -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:30 PM Subject: svn commit: r803382 - in /websites/production/flex: ./

Fwd: svn commit: r803379 - in /websites/production/flex: ./ content/flex/logo-contest.html

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
Updated logo contest page with results, let me know if anything should be changed. - Doug -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:19 PM Subject: svn commit: r803379 - in /websites/production/flex: ./ content/flex/logo-contest.html To: flex-comm...@incubator.ap

[VOTE Results] Logo Contest

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
Hello everyone, Sorry for the delay, my schedule has not given me the time to post this until now. The Logo contest has come to a conclusion, and we have a winner. Congratulations to Tomasz Maciag (#42) for his submission, as his logo will become the new image of Apache Flex. As stated before, we

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I've been doing a lot of work with Michigan State University's Research Center for Persons with Disabilities (RCPD for short). Their recommendation for the blind up until two years ago was JAWS with IE. They always said it was the best supported, and worked with the most websites. I guess Firefox

RE: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-26 Thread FRANKLIN GARZON
Please + for 42. Franklin Garzón Regional Development Manager MCITP Microsoft SQLServer *Si el hombre dejara de aprender entonces dejaría de existir* 094496862 > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:21:04 +0100 > From: tomis...@svemir.net > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VO

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
Listening to the screen reader's robotic voice reading the same content over and over for 100s of hours while testing accessibilitynow, that...is a nightmare. On Jan 26, 2012 8:25 PM, "Rick Winscot" wrote: > What would be great for 508 is to implement first class mechanisms for > accessibilit

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Rick Winscot
What would be great for 508 is to implement first class mechanisms for accessibility ... creating new components that are accessible (the Flash way) is a nightmare. On Jan 26, 2012 5:53 PM, "Michael Jordan" wrote: > > On 1/26/12 1:54 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > >> -Original Message- > >

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Jordan
On 1/26/12 1:54 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: David Francis Buhler [mailto:davidbuh...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:48 AM >> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: RE: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU >> >> Windows, Jaws, jaws

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Tomislav Pokrajcic
On 26.1.2012. 20:37, Alex Harui wrote: Building a capability into a single framework where you can grab bitmaps from the display list, hide the display list, use the GPU to render a really slick animation, and bring the modified display list right back on top of the final results might be a bet

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-26 Thread Tomislav Pokrajcic
+1 #42 Some comments: #49 While really respecting the energy invested in working on this logo, it just keeps reminding me on fallen F no matter how strong I try thinking about raising mountain or Indian tent... I tried to make it standing still by applying various transforms in in Photoshop, b

RE: Optimize Flex performance

2012-01-26 Thread Gordon Smith
Given Adobe's new emphasis on gaming, improving compile-time and JIT-time optimization to increase ActionScript performance is becoming a high priority for the company. Hopefully, ongoing compile-time optimizations will get donated as improvements to Falcon. - Gordon Smith, Adobe -Origina

RE: Optimize Flex performance

2012-01-26 Thread Gordon Smith
The Falcon compiler will have some bytecode optimizations that the current compiler doesn't do, such as constant propogation. But in general, the question of which optimizations belong in the compiler and which belong in the JIT is tricky. If you put them all in the compiler, the SWF size could

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Altomare
If the need for GPU assistance is during scrolling and transitions, that's a different problem. Building a capability into a single framework where you can grab bitmaps from the display list, hide the display list, use the GPU to render a really slick animation, and bring the modified display list

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
I have now seen it. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: David Francis Buhler [mailto:davidbuh...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:11 AM >> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Pushing Flex components thorough th

RE: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Alex Harui
> -Original Message- > From: Frank Altomare [mailto:lost...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:24 AM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU > > It seems that this thread has turned into a discussion about > accessibility, >

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread nithya flex
+1 count me in On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Om wrote: > If anyone is interested in helping me take on this project please let me > > > know! As of right now I'm not sure how much time I can really dedicate to > > this so all help would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > Sign me up. I am not

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Om
If anyone is interested in helping me take on this project please let me > know! As of right now I'm not sure how much time I can really dedicate to > this so all help would be greatly appreciated! > > Sign me up. I am not a committer though :-) Om

RE: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Alex Harui
> -Original Message- > From: David Francis Buhler [mailto:davidbuh...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:11 AM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU > > The only information I can find, regarding platforms for Flex and >

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Altomare
It seems that this thread has turned into a discussion about accessibility, while this is not a bad thing and is an interesting subject I think we may have veered a bit off topic. Is anyone here interested in discussing the implementation of this type of GPU framework? As soon as I have some free

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
I'm happy to work on any Accessibility ANE tasks, btw. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: David Francis Buhler [mailto:davidbuh...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:48 AM >> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: RE: Pu

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
The only information I can find, regarding platforms for Flex and Accessibility always routes me to: http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/flex/jaws.html List of Accessible Flex components (this is probably out of date) http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/flex/components.html Impair

RE: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Schmalle
Don't discount HTML/JS frameworks without investigating them, or you'll find yourselves contributing to a waning project while the competitors are recruiting all your developers. Also, one or more of these frameworks might become our best friend if we end up mapping MXML to their UI Widgets so

RE: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Alex Harui
> -Original Message- > From: David Francis Buhler [mailto:davidbuh...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:48 AM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU > > Windows, Jaws, jaws scripts, and IE. :) > On Jan 26, 2012 1:29 PM, "A

RE: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
Windows, Jaws, jaws scripts, and IE. :) On Jan 26, 2012 1:29 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Francis Buhler [mailto:davidbuh...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:27 AM > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Pushing Flex comp

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > Also, one or more of these frameworks might become our best friend if we end > up mapping MXML to their UI Widgets someday. +1 Good point!

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Bogdan DINU
Hi Joan, I've read the proverb at the end of your message. I totally agree with it. Regards, Bogdan On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Joan Llenas Masó < joan.llenas.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sencha has done a great job making ExtJS a successful product and I'm sure > they'll give some interesting

RE: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Alex Harui
> -Original Message- > From: Doug McCune [mailto:d...@dougmccune.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:24 AM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha > > > Don't discount HTML/JS frameworks without investigating them, or y

RE: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Alex Harui
> -Original Message- > From: David Francis Buhler [mailto:davidbuh...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:27 AM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU > > Do the Mobile Components support accessibility properties? > > The D

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Om
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:39 AM, David Francis Buhler wrote: > Almost all accessibility implementations are failures. If a blind > person cannot understand a single word pronounced, this can be a > show-stopper. > > However, most US companies need to support users with disabilities. A > disabilit

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-26 Thread Alberto Morales
+1 #42 -- *Alberto Morales | @bertiko_** *

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
Almost all accessibility implementations are failures. If a blind person cannot understand a single word pronounced, this can be a show-stopper. However, most US companies need to support users with disabilities. A disability can be cognitive, visual, a hearing problem, etc. The lack of an accessi

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
Do the Mobile Components support accessibility properties? The DateSpinner, for example, supports accessibility properties. Whether or not the Accessibility properties of AIR on Mobile devices works across all Mobile OS devices is a question I don't know the answer to. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Altomare
I agree also. I think this will see it's biggest benefits in Mobile where accessibility (may) not be as big of an issue. I'm not sure how accessible the current Flex Mobile components already are or how they interact with accessible handhelds. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Jonathan Campos wrot

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Doug McCune
> > I understand the frustration but can we move on and concentrate on Flex? I think an understanding of the others options out there is really good. I saw the title of this thread and before clicking it was hoping it didn't turn into one giant flamewar, which of course, it did. I think it is wor

Re: Flex Portal considerations

2012-01-26 Thread Cortlandt Winters
I think there are two different use cases here I think there is a common use case where you have a flexible ui that needs to save the positions of hdividedbox and vdividedbox positions and the column widths of datagrids, stuff like that, so that users can customize a flexible view to their tastes

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Doug McCune wrote: > Also, I'm still not clear on where AIR for mobile stands in regards > to accessibility (ie with Apple's VoiceOver stuff or Android's TalkBack). > Are current AIR for mobile apps accessible to screen readers? > I agree Doug. I don't see this

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Doug McCune
> > So for now using Stage3D is not viable option IMHO as an enterprise > application framework like flex cannot do without an accessibility > implementation. > So it's probably better to seek optimizations for flex using the > displaylist api. Unless some developers don't care about accessibilit

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
+1 #49 {binding} On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:55 AM, jude wrote: > +1 #42 > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Yiotis Katsambas wrote: > >> +1 #49 >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, David Francis Buhler < >> davidbuh...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> > +1 #42 >> > >>

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-26 Thread Arnoud Bos
On 24-01-2012, at 09:48, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/23/12 7:36 PM, "Frank Altomare" wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Has anyone looked into the feasibility of pushing some of the Flex >> components through a GPU framework such as Starling? Once Stage3D comes out >> for mobile this would

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Giorgio Natili
I understand the frustration but can we move on and concentrate on Flex? G.

RE: [OT] Atlassian

2012-01-26 Thread Alex Harui
> -Original Message- > From: Roland Zwaga [mailto:rol...@stackandheap.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:33 AM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [OT] Atlassian > > Hi Alex, > > So I'm trying to understand > where > this disconnect between Adobe and its enterprise

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
One item from the PDF: Developer immediacy Here’s how Ext JS provides more immediacy to the developer than Flex: • Greater flexibility, since Flex requires investment in Adobe-specific tool On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Andras Csizmadia wrote: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1375050/Sencha-Ext-JS

Re: State of the Project

2012-01-26 Thread jude
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/23/12 3:00 AM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > > > I think the tension here is justified. Many people waited for a long > > time to work on things and the expectations are high. Right now a lot > > of requests and questions that the p

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Andras Csizmadia
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1375050/Sencha-Ext-JS-Flex-Comp.pdf.pdf saved from your google docs link -Original Message- From: Joan Llenas Masó Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:12 PM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha I made

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
I made it public to the whole web, it has to be accessible now... if not I'll send it by email. Anyway, I'll delete it as soon as the new one is made public. Rectification is smart. -- Joan Llenas Masó http://joan.garnet.io @joangarnet (es) @joanllenas (en) On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 17:01, Davi

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
Well, the fact that this document was ever created and made public makes me think that Sencha was planning to play dirty. They were caught though. Was Ted the one who wrote (or allowed to make public) the document? I'd like to think that answer is no. -- Joan Llenas Masó http://joan.garnet.io @jo

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
Still inaccessible. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Joan Llenas Masó wrote: > David, check again please. > > -- > Joan Llenas Masó > http://joan.garnet.io > @joangarnet (es) > @joanllenas (en) > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 16:56, David Francis Buhler > wrote: > >> Joan, >> >> I cannot access

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
David, check again please. -- Joan Llenas Masó http://joan.garnet.io @joangarnet (es) @joanllenas (en) On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 16:56, David Francis Buhler wrote: > Joan, > > I cannot access your link to the Google Doc. Perhaps the document > isn't 'public'? > > -BUHLER > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
Joan, I cannot access your link to the Google Doc. Perhaps the document isn't 'public'? -BUHLER On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Joan Llenas Masó wrote: > wow, "some inaccuracies" was actually a sarcasm... > Well then, my document checker popped up a notification saying "no criteria > was foun

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Dimitri K.
From: "Doug Arthur" I think someone here should create an identical PDF, but about Flex - with the facts, and post it here! I would totally do it if I had time, but it would take me a week or more with my schedule. - Doug Before the guns starts blazing, it should be mentionned that Ted Patrick

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-26 Thread jude
+1 #42 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Yiotis Katsambas wrote: > +1 #49 > > > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, David Francis Buhler < > davidbuh...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > +1 #42 > > >

RE: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Jeff Tapper
Its showing up fine for me. -Original Message- From: Marcus Fritze [mailto:marcus.fri...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:22 AM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha 404... Am 26.01.2012 um 16:05 schrieb Dav

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Andrew Trice
I get a "404 not found" for that link... Could someone please forward me a copy of the PDF if they have it? Thanks, Andrew Trice Technical Evangelist, Adobe On 1/26/12 10:40 AM, "Doug Arthur" wrote: >On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Arnoud Bos >wrote: >> no prop here. i can download the

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
wow, "some inaccuracies" was actually a sarcasm... Well then, my document checker popped up a notification saying "no criteria was found in this document". Anyway, this doesn't change the fact that ExtJS is an excellent product. I'm attending to the webminar just to see how they are going to appro

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Doug Arthur
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Arnoud Bos wrote: > no prop here. i can download the pdf (which is indeed very inaccurate) > leaving out air is crazy. They say for example you cannot deploy flex on iOS. > > pff so many things wrong i don't know where to start > > another example: They only me

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Arnoud Bos
no prop here. i can download the pdf (which is indeed very inaccurate) leaving out air is crazy. They say for example you cannot deploy flex on iOS. pff so many things wrong i don't know where to start another example: They only mention flash builder (premium edition) a $699 when talking abo

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Marcus Fritze
404... Am 26.01.2012 um 16:05 schrieb David Francis Buhler: > http://pages.sencha.com/rs/sencha/images/Sencha-Ext-JS-Flex-Comp.pdf > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Ivan Ilijašić wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Jeffry Houser >> wrote: >> >>> They had another PDF up there which

Re: [OT] Atlassian

2012-01-26 Thread Roland Zwaga
Hi Omar, its easy to filter out the [OT] messages. The fact that you reply to this thread seems like beating a dead horse as well ;) On 26 January 2012 15:20, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > Honestly, at this point who cares where things went wrong? They went wrong, > Flex is now at Apache and we are all

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread David Francis Buhler
http://pages.sencha.com/rs/sencha/images/Sencha-Ext-JS-Flex-Comp.pdf On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Ivan Ilijašić wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Jeffry Houser >wrote: > > > They had another PDF up there which compared Sencha to Flex. It was > > removed after I complained on twitte

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Ivan Ilijašić
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > They had another PDF up there which compared Sencha to Flex. It was > removed after I complained on twitter about inaccuracies. > That's why I can't find it :) They tried to compare Sencha and mobile Flex based on Flash Player, not on AIR.

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/26/2012 6:38 AM, Joan Llenas Masó wrote: Once you register to the webminar they offer the "The Development Manager’s Quick Guide to HTML5" for download: http://pages.sencha.com/rs/sencha/images/Sencha-WP-Dev-Mgrs-Guide-to-HTML5.pdf Which seems to be a good overview of what they are going to

Re: [OT] Atlassian

2012-01-26 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Honestly, at this point who cares where things went wrong? They went wrong, Flex is now at Apache and we are all here. Don't mean to be so rude but lets stop beating a long dead horse and move on people, Adobe has. -omar

Re: Whiteboard area

2012-01-26 Thread Omar Gonzalez
If you want a GUI for git svn commands the Tower app has support. Also, git svn commands should come with a standard Git installation, at least I didn't have to install that separately. -omar

Re: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Altomare
>I would rather see Stage3D render for mobile components and fallback >to software render on unsupported devices. I agree with that totally, I actually started a tread related to this earlier this week. My plan is to start experimenting with a GPU enabled DataGroup and go from there. On Thu, Jan

Re: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-26 Thread Rui Silva
Francis, > From: "Frank Altomare" > Sent: quinta-feira, 26 de Janeiro de 2012 14:08> > > > > I, on the other hand, would 100% disagree and say that mobile features are > > very important. > > > > > +1, > I would actually say a focus on Mobile performance will really help out the > project > Fr

Re: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-26 Thread James Ong
I would rather see Stage3D render for mobile components and fallback to software render on unsupported devices. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Frank Altomare wrote: >> >> I, on the other hand, would 100% disagree and say that mobile features are >> very important. >> >> > +1, > I would actual

Re: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Altomare
> > I, on the other hand, would 100% disagree and say that mobile features are > very important. > > +1, I would actually say a focus on Mobile performance will really help out the project On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Ivan Ilijašić wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Campos >w

Re: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-26 Thread Ivan Ilijašić
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > > I, on the other hand, would 100% disagree and say that mobile features are > very important. > > +1

Re: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-26 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Pepe wrote: > # As my opinion, mobile feature is not important in Apache Flex. I, on the other hand, would 100% disagree and say that mobile features are very important. -- Jonathan Campos

Re: FYI, I have requested a Git mirror for Flex

2012-01-26 Thread Dwayne Henderson
Can we have Flex at GitHub too? --Dwayne On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4366 - once that's > setup, the mirror(s) will be listed at git.apache.org (see links to > docs there). > > -Bertrand >

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
Sorry, I didn't mean to be funny. Sencha is one of the most stablished HTML RIA frameworks in the enterprise market. To give you an example, Adobe Day ECM is using it internally and is what you use to extend Day's built in widgets. They know what they do and I'm sure we can use their reasoning "aga

Re: Flex Portal considerations

2012-01-26 Thread Nick Collins
In that case you are talking about AIR, though, which is a different beast from the Flash Player in terms of sandbox limitations. Within the browser player you have limitations on how much data you can store in a shared object before it prompts the user ( if I recall correctly it is 100kb) to ask i

RE: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-26 Thread David Arno
> From: Pepe [mailto:pepe.f...@gmail.com] > Sent: 26 January 2012 07:45 > > Please do not try to make a hybrid architecture. I believe it will failure. > I hope Flex 5 will have two versions which are desktop version and mobile version. The key here is to use composition, rather than inheritance,

Re: [jira] [Assigned] (FLEX-8) Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts to the Apache Maven repository

2012-01-26 Thread Tiago Lopes
Does it work well with the flash builder? Em 19/01/2012 05:23, "Conrad Winchester" escreveu: > Hi all, > > I am not sure if this helps, but I did a LOT of work with flex mojos last > year and learnt to produce my own Maven installs of any SDK that I wanted - > I outlined how to do it here > > htt

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Nuno Fernandes
Great contribution LOLL you are a funny guy :D On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Joan Llenas Masó < joan.llenas.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sencha has done a great job making ExtJS a successful product and I'm sure > they'll give some interesting implicit inputs about where Flex can improve > from

RE: Codename for the new version?

2012-01-26 Thread David Arno
> From: Rui Silva [mailto:f...@rduartes.net] > Sent: 26 January 2012 10:13 > > For me, and for the time-being, Apache Flex is a good enough codename. > After the first official release I'd give it another thought if that is something I miss. The problem I had with that is that we have three vers

Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-26 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
Sencha has done a great job making ExtJS a successful product and I'm sure they'll give some interesting implicit inputs about where Flex can improve from their perspective. I see this as a great opportunity to understand how they justify the transition to potential enterprise customers. They have

Re: Codename for the new version?

2012-01-26 Thread Ivan Ilijašić
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Rui Silva wrote: > > > For me, and for the time-being, Apache Flex is a good enough codename. > After the first official release I'd give it another thought if that is > something I miss. > > Rui > > I totally agree.

RE: Codename for the new version?

2012-01-26 Thread Rui Silva
> From: "David Arno" > Someone suggested calling the first Apache release "lifeboat." I like that, > so it's what I have started referring to it as (it avoids the whole > discussion on version numbers.) I don't know if anyone else uses the term > though. > > David. For me, and for the time-be

RE: Codename for the new version?

2012-01-26 Thread David Arno
> From: Rodrigo Pandini [mailto:rodrigopand...@gmail.com] > Sent: 26 January 2012 02:51 > > I would like know if there are some plan to put a codename for the new version that will be release? Someone suggested calling the first Apache release "lifeboat." I like that, so it's what I have started

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-26 Thread Wael Jammal
I agree with this, Flex 3 and Flex 4 should be kept apart and in my view both moving to Apache and starting a fresh is as good as time as any to trim away the fat as it's something I believe will be harder once you release a build that people actually start using then you are stuck maintaining that

Re: Port some mobile components to web

2012-01-26 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
On 26 January 2012 09:04, Alex Harui wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Haykel BEN JEMIA [mailto:hayke...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:23 PM > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Port some mobile components to web > > > > I have searched in the

Re: Whiteboard area

2012-01-26 Thread Justin Mclean
> I would look at the git svn commands and manage my work from there if I > wasn't a committer. I believe it'll even let you create patches from your > Git branch for SVN. Yep that works but it don't preserve checkins or commits (to git). So when your code gets checked in to SVN it will a miss a

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-26 Thread Pepe
I didn't mind backward compatibility even at Flex 4. But they left it. I guess there were some big voice. Current UIComponent is very fat. I believe dropping backward compatibility is neccesary in order that Flex evolves. New architecture and new component model are welcome. thanks Shigeru Nak

Re: [OT] Atlassian

2012-01-26 Thread Roland Zwaga
Hi Alex, I wasn't implying that Adobe ought to make money from the Flash Player directly. All I wanted to highlight was the fact that during the Flex Summit it became apparent that there seemed to be a disconnect between Adobe and their enterprise customers. From what I understood left and right (

FYI, I have requested a Git mirror for Flex

2012-01-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
...at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4366 - once that's setup, the mirror(s) will be listed at git.apache.org (see links to docs there). -Bertrand

Re: Codename for the new version?

2012-01-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Doug McCune wrote: > ...seriously, we don't need another 500-message thread to discuss > codenames like we had for logos... big +1, the best way to express a cool idea is with code. Even an ugly quick prototype usually speaks much louder than a 100-email thread.

Re: [Subject Tagging]

2012-01-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Om wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: >> People who join project lists should review the list archives [1] >> before posting anyway, to avoid duplicating previous discussions. This >> should allow them

RE: Port some mobile components to web

2012-01-26 Thread Alex Harui
> -Original Message- > From: Haykel BEN JEMIA [mailto:hayke...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:23 PM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Port some mobile components to web > > I have searched in the archives and did not find any message talking > about > th

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