Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Doug, Do you have any idea what you would contribute? Especially given that rpc.swc is in the Flex contribution? Or maybe one goal would be to move rpc.swc to this new project and make it the umbrella for all server-side work? If we manage to get permission to contribute parts of LCDS at an

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Omar Gonzalez
+1 (binding)

Re: coding conventions

2012-01-07 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I agree on keeping on the current conventions. An added bonus is that all of our editors (or at least the ones I use) have them setup as defaults, so we don't have to worry about mucking with those preferences. :) -Nick On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Sat, Jan 7, 2

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-07 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I like the idea, but from what I remember, almost all of the 99designs or crowdspring ideas are paid. Non-paid ones usually don't get much traction on those sites... -Nick On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Those that voted, read this and give your opinion. > > Any mentor

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
You only mention that you need to donate your work to Apache. The licenses don't mention where the graphics are coming from (and that was my point). Pretty much, we just need to avoid people using one of Adobe's trademarked logos (past or present), which I'm sure people would be inclined to do.

RE: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Web DoubleFx
While conceptually, I think that BlazeDS would fit within a project outside ApacheFlex, in a practical way, until not having much commiters, etc ..., it should have its place in ApacheFlex until there is enough community interest and we stand ready to make a full project of it, the risk, otherw

Re: New feature request: Stage Map View

2012-01-07 Thread Randy Troppmann
On Jan 7, 2012 11:52 PM, "Fréderic Cox" wrote: > > Another option would be using the > StageWebView for the JS Maps API but I don't know if you can communicate > between your AS3 app and the HTML view (for pressing/selecting markers). That approach does solve the licensing issue.

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Doug Arthur
I am willing to be an initial committer for this effort. On Jan 7, 2012 2:52 PM, "Anne Kathrine Petterøe" wrote: > On 7 January 2012 20:54, Alex Harui wrote: > > >> there someone championing the project at ASF? > > Are you volunteering to be champion? > > I cannot champion a project because I am

Re: coding conventions

2012-01-07 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Joel Hooks wrote: > > http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Coding+Conventions > > Emphatically agree with this. I like this too. I've been keeping to this for a few years. Work will need to be done to finish it up. It should be committed via SVN, not

Re: coding conventions

2012-01-07 Thread Joel Hooks
On Jan 7, 2012, at 18:16, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Why not adopt the already existing official flex coding conventions & > best practices? > > http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Coding+Conventions Emphatically agree with this.

re: coding conventions

2012-01-07 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Why not adopt the already existing official flex coding conventions & best practices? http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Coding+Conventions This article already exists and is pretty well written. Trust me on this, code format consistency is very important for people with OCD and it

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Those that voted, read this and give your opinion. Any mentors willing to read this and answer by Sunday? I would like to get this discussed quickly before I commit anything on the site. I just think this might have slipped through the cracks, interesting thought. Mike Quoting Jeffry Houser

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Nicholas Kwiatkowski : +1 (binding), but I think we need to make sure that submitters be cautious of existing copyrighted materials. It's an obvious subnote, but one I think we have to mention (I've run into a LOT of people thinking that I would take care of legal issues for logos they

Re: New feature request: Stage Map View

2012-01-07 Thread Fréderic Cox
You have to use an ANE afaik. Another option would be using the StageWebView for the JS Maps API but I don't know if you can communicate between your AS3 app and the HTML view (for pressing/selecting markers). If locationChange is triggered when the hash of your html changes then it can be done (I

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
+1 (binding), but I think we need to make sure that submitters be cautious of existing copyrighted materials. It's an obvious subnote, but one I think we have to mention (I've run into a LOT of people thinking that I would take care of legal issues for logos they have designed for me). -Nick On

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Tink
+1 (binding) Tink

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Iwo Banaś wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Cheers, > Iwo Banas I'm sure Bertrand can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we have enough binding +1 to call this voted?

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Iwo Banaś
+1 (binding) Cheers, Iwo Banas

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Mmmm...I forgot to say my + 1 os not binding :) El sábado 7 de enero de 2012, Carlos Rovira escribió: > +1 > > Btw, great to see all the work done putting the rules of the contest so quickly. > > > > El sábado 7 de enero de 2012, Michael Schmalle escribió: >> Quoting Jun Heider : >> >>> >>> On J

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
+1 Btw, great to see all the work done putting the rules of the contest so quickly. El sábado 7 de enero de 2012, Michael Schmalle escribió: > Quoting Jun Heider : > >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: >> >>> The below has been added to the draft; >>> >>> >>> Added; >>>

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Anne Kathrine Petterøe
On 7 January 2012 20:54, Alex Harui wrote: >> there someone championing the project at ASF? > Are you volunteering to be champion? I cannot champion a project because I am not an officer or a member of ASF [1] > I guess some folks are willing to work on it, but what needs to be done to > it?  

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Peter Elst
+1 (binding) - Peter

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Jeffry Houser
Here are a few mixed thoughts: I wonder if a site like Crowdspring or 99designs would be a suitable venue for a contest like this? I believe it would get the contest in front of folks who are more design oriented than most programmers; and already have built in facilities for voting on res

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/7/12 2:02 AM, "Anne Kathrine Petterøe" wrote: > From the top of my head: > Would you be able to get enough initial committers for a proposal? That's one thing I'm worried about. > there someone championing the project at ASF? Are you volunteering to be champion? > I don't know how many

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/7/12 7:32 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote: > Are we getting the FULL rpc.swc with > it? RPC is in the Flex donation. I'm not aware that we hide any source for it. The plan would be to donate what is on the opensource.adobe.com site for BlazeDS right now, unless we run into some other l

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Randy Troppmann
+1 non-binding

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Doug Arthur
My first official +1 here too as PPMC member! :-) Fun times. On Jan 7, 2012 12:27 PM, "Jun Heider" wrote: > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > > The below has been added to the draft; > > > > > > Added; > > > > > > > > Note: The

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread João Saleiro
I had a question to myself about this, I will take charge of updating the site if others don't' mind. I will put the submissions up in time of received as to not favorite anything and place them under the contest description. Separate section beneath the content. Mike I completely agree.

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting João Saleiro : +1 (non-binding) But I would like to add a comment: we should publish the existing proposals on the page where the contest is published (so they serve as inspiration/guideline/motivation) and it would be nice if from time to time (daily?) that page was updated with

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:31 PM, João Saleiro wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > But I would like to add a comment: we should publish the existing proposals > on the page where the contest is published (so they serve as > inspiration/guideline/motivation) and it would be nice if from time to time > (d

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jun Heider : On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: The below has been added to the draft; Added; Note: The design as accepted by popular vote will be treated as a proposal that can be tweaked and cemented into it's fina

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread João Saleiro
+1 (non-binding) But I would like to add a comment: we should publish the existing proposals on the page where the contest is published (so they serve as inspiration/guideline/motivation) and it would be nice if from time to time (daily?) that page was updated with all the other proposals rece

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > The below has been added to the draft; > > > Added; > > > > Note: The design as accepted by popular vote will be treated as a proposal > that can be tweaked and cemented into it's final publis

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
The below has been added to the draft; Added; Note: The design as accepted by popular vote will be treated as a proposal that can be tweaked and cemented into it's final published form. [1] http://

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jun Heider : On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Send to the Apache Flex Mailing List [2] [1] http://incubator.apache.org/flex/rebranding/submissions.html [2] http://incubator.apache.org/flex/mailing-lists.html Michael, should you update your [VOTE] thread with t

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > Send to the Apache Flex Mailing List [2] > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/flex/rebranding/submissions.html > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/flex/mailing-lists.html > Michael, should you update your [VOTE] thread with the links you a

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Peter Elst wrote: > Are we looking for "the logo" or an incubator project logo? Think it might > be worth to ask people to ask to submit just a proposal - doesn't have to > be the finished completely polished thing IMHO. > > If its just a design proposal would person

Re: Where is Spoon?

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Randy Troppmann wrote: > Oops. Apologies to you, Jun, and any other spooners active on this list. > Early days! The other pin I have is "will flash for cash". No worries man. Just saying hey in a non-standard way. :)

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Peter Elst
> Thanks for putting that draft together for the contest. Looks perfect to > me. Doug had mentioned one week to submit the logo, I'm thinking maybe two? > I mean it *is* the logo... Are we looking for "the logo" or an incubator project logo? Think it might be worth to ask people to ask to submi

Re: Where is Spoon?

2012-01-07 Thread Randy Troppmann
Oops. Apologies to you, Jun, and any other spooners active on this list. Early days! The other pin I have is "will flash for cash".

Re: Flex SDK code conventions

2012-01-07 Thread Iwo Banaś
> I've never been a fan of highly detailed coding conventions.  For example, I > could care less if you use tab or space.  Any modern editor can configure > its tab width.  I do care that a tab is four spaces though and want you to > set your editor up that way. I'm not fanatic about codding conve

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Apache Flex Re-branding Initiative Thanks for putting that draft together for the contest. Looks perfect to me. Doug had mentioned one week to submit the logo, I'm thinking maybe two? I mean it *is* the logo...

Re: Where is Spoon?

2012-01-07 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 7, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Randy Troppmann wrote: > With the exception of Jonathan Campos, I have not seen much activity > from the spoon people on this list. The Spoon blog hasn't posted an > update since the Flex Summit. I would like to see more activity from > the Spoon directors or I will re

Re: First Flex release as soon as possible? (was: So, what should we do first?)

2012-01-07 Thread Iwo Banaś
That's great to see the first "real" work being started straight away! However I still think that we should release the first baseline version reflecting Adobe Flex 4.6 code with only cosmetic modifications. It wouldn't make sense to rush such an important feature (Navigators) just to get the rele

Re: Tabnavigator (and future components)

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Jeff, thanks for your sincere replies, not I don't expect you to elaborate any more than you have. My thought, create an extension, branch what ever you call it of flex component extensions that are officially supported by the committers of Apache Flex (me, you and others). Have it merge in

Re: Tabnavigator (and future components)

2012-01-07 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/7/2012 9:11 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Quoting Jeffry Houser : On 1/7/2012 6:33 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Oh yeah, you had FlexLib, you know why that failed? Flexlib failed? How are you defining failure. No, I'm am sorry for saying that about the FlexLib (to early in the mornin

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Bertrand, -- Apache Flex Re-branding Initiative On the 31th of December, 2011, the Apache Software Foundation has accepted the Flex SDK into incubation. Apache Flex is now a community project managed by Apache (ASF). T

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Bertrand Delacretaz : On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: ... the community will choose the new logo through voting on the Apache Flex Mailing List at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-dev/. I'd rather point to http://incubator.apache.org/fl

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > ... the community will choose the new > logo through voting on the Apache Flex Mailing List at > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-dev/. I'd rather point to http://incubator.apache.org/flex/mailing-lists.html and spec

[VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Let's vote on this content so I can get the page up and started. The contest last 1 week from the data of the rebranding.mb publishing on our website. Mike Apache Flex Re-branding Initiative On the 31th of December, 2011, the Apa

Re: [DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 7, 2012 9:31 AM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: > > This is taken from João Saleiro original draft. > > > I am resubmitting this to the list to get approval to make a page on the site "rebranding.mb". > > I think this needs to get up so the discussions about the logo can be pointed at the site.

[DRAFT] Flex Logo :: site page

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
This is taken from João Saleiro original draft. I am resubmitting this to the list to get approval to make a page on the site "rebranding.mb". I think this needs to get up so the discussions about the logo can be pointed at the site. When does the contest end? Thanks, Mike TODO * lin

Re: Mavenization of Apache Flex

2012-01-07 Thread Sandeep Gupta
+1 I am ready to lend a helping hand here. Keep Walking, ~ Sandeep On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Carlos Rovira > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > now that we involved in the set up of Apache Flex and Apache is the same > > house of Maven I would

Re: Where is Spoon?

2012-01-07 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Randy Troppmann wrote: > With the exception of Jonathan Campos Well we have seen Garth, Kevin, and Nick on this list so far. I know a few others that are still on vacation. Within Spoon we are preparing for a public open call for the community. That help a bit?

Where is Spoon?

2012-01-07 Thread Randy Troppmann
With the exception of Jonathan Campos, I have not seen much activity from the spoon people on this list. The Spoon blog hasn't posted an update since the Flex Summit. I would like to see more activity from the Spoon directors or I will remove the spoon pin from my backpack ;) - Randy

Re: New feature request: Stage Map View

2012-01-07 Thread Randy Troppmann
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > I'm probably not the best person to work on it.  Hopefully someone else will > want to lead it, including yourself. > Hi Alex, I would love to pursue this but I don't really know if this would be possible with just the Flex stack or whether lo

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Raju Bitter
Thanks for all the logo drafts we've seen so far, great work! I really like Carlos' first version with the full arc. Very stylish and dynamic. I don't think the readability will be a problem. Both words - Apache and Flex - look good in written form, and I'd prefer to not have an iconic logo like S

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > Mentors, what criteria would you use to determine if Blaze should be its > own project? > > I would say it would be its own project if it has its own distinct > community. The two communiti

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread João Fernandes
Hi Alex, I also agree with everyone here that BlazeDS should be proposed as a separated project to Apache. Did Adobe already defined what are they willing to donate to Apache Foundation from the BlazeDS stack? João Fernandes

Re: Tabnavigator (and future components)

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jeffry Houser : On 1/7/2012 6:33 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Oh yeah, you had FlexLib, you know why that failed? Flexlib failed? How are you defining failure. No, I'm am sorry for saying that about the FlexLib (to early in the morning) I meant the FlexComponent ecosystem percei

Re: Tabnavigator (and future components)

2012-01-07 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/7/2012 6:33 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Oh yeah, you had FlexLib, you know why that failed? Flexlib failed? How are you defining failure. -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur 203-379-0773 -- http://www.flextras.com?c=104 UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready! -- http://www.t

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Michal Szczepanski
That's what ipod do with inappropriate hands. One touch to disaster. Sorry for spam And now I need to say something, BlazeDS is also important for company I work and more or less we depend on it now. I'm interested in BlazeDS project as much as flex one. I managed to get deep into all rpc.swc in f

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Michal Szczepanski
-- Michal Szczepanski Flash Platform Developer www: http://blog.vane.pl Send from mobile On 7 sty 2012, at 01:33, "Rui Silva" wrote: > +1 to what Greg said. And I'd also like to say that I'd be interested in > participating in BlazeDS. > > Original Message >> From: "Greg R

Flex Usage Statistics

2012-01-07 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Hi there, Because the last two month had been most turbulent times in my career as Flex developer, I thought it would be a good idea to recap where Flex application development stands today. Therefore I decided to start a little survey asking three main questions to the Flex community: Question

Re: Tabnavigator (and future components)

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jonathan Campos : On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: I sense your talking to me here all that would be proposed with closeable tabs is in the ITabNavigator interface. closePolicy:String, one property, implement it how you like. Definitely understand that it is

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-07 Thread Anne Kathrine Petterøe
On 6 January 2012 23:39, Alex Harui wrote: > Adobe promised to contribute BlazeDS to Apache.  The question is: should it > be its own project? It should be its own project IMO. Blaze DS is a server-side product, like Jeffrey also points out. > > Mentors, what criteria would you use to determine

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Rui Silva
The experiments I did were somewhere around thos lines. I kept the F as it is, but broke the arc between the E and the X and also after the X leaving just a small "tail" at the end. Original Message > From: "Carlos Rovira" > Sent: sábado, 7 de Janeiro de 2012 9:50 > To: flex-d

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Just to let you know what is my thinking about a square representation of Apache Flex. It would be something like other do. Let me show some examples of "iconic representation" ..and here there's no letters from the words represented, since this is only one of the possibilities and Adobe explote th

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Saravanan G
*+1* * * *Saravanan* On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > Hi Rui, > > many thanks for you words about. Very appreciated :). > > As you said I think it would be great to let it rest until a contest or > something would be set up and we have other proposals. If this one > continu

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Yeah Bertrand! I was thinking exactly the same! :) I will be today in a trip so I could not share this changes, but hope to do it in a day or so :) 2012/1/7 Bertrand Delacretaz > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Carlos Rovira > wrote: > > ...If I can express my opinion about the broken/unbrok

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > ...If I can express my opinion about the broken/unbroken arc issue. I'm with > you and think I end preferring the unbroken (first version). This is after > some hours of sleep and seeing the two in comparision Me too, but maybe some subt

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Rui, many thanks for you words about. Very appreciated :). As you said I think it would be great to let it rest until a contest or something would be set up and we have other proposals. If this one continues to have most wide acceptance (it's selected in the contest), we could work again over

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-07 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Doug, many thank for you words and for take the time to consult others about the design. :) If I can express my opinion about the broken/unbroken arc issue. I'm with you and think I end preferring the unbroken (first version). This is after some hours of sleep and seeing the two in comparision