Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
Update on the timeline: Untangling the donated code from the not-donated code is turning out to be trickier than we hoped. It won't happen this week. We also have to do some legal scrubbing before an official Adobe person can sign the Software Grant form. What will probably happen first is that

Re: On splitting communities and non-code committers (was: Apache Flex community website)

2012-01-05 Thread Sandeep Gupta
Hi Brent, You mentioned that we may commit by evangelizing, writing docs and tutorials etc... which I kind of agree with. However, being a non-commiter I do not have access to Wiki to write - I do not have access to code to write method documentation and else. How do I contribute in such ways - A

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 5:19 PM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: > > Is Adobe planning to contribute web based documentation? > A good question. The ASDOC will be re-generated from the source in Apache, but I don't know about the rest of it. I will look into it. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. ht

Re: Flex mobile components

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 6:38 PM, "Brent Arnold" wrote: > This is something that's been bothering me lately, and since many Adobe > Flex people are on this list, I wanted to get your feedback. > > 1. If Adobe is no longer developing Flex, but Adobe wants to continue > promoting/developing AIR for mobile, bu

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 8:13 PM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: > What would help is to know what the experts here feel is the best html > wrapping for swf? Adobe Flex defaults to using SWFObject which is found in Google Code under an MIT license. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.

On splitting communities and non-code committers (was: Apache Flex community website)

2012-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Brent, On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Brent Arnold wrote: > ...As a member of the Flex community I wanted to contribute in some way, and > since I'm not an initial committer or anything, I figured I could at least > do something like setup and host a website --> apacheflex.org. > > I realize

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Brent, I'm trying to find out what your exact needs are... On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Brent Arnold wrote: > I agree that this list *is* the community, but what does the "face" of > Apache Flex look like when it's out of incubator status? When I go to a > website like http://camel.apache.

Re: Flex Logo :: Community Action

2012-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
2012/1/6 João Saleiro : > ...LICENSE... The authors of the selected Flex logo(s) will need to donate them to the Apache Flex project according to the Apache individual contributor license: http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt -Bertrand

Re: svn is ready

2012-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> ...The following users should now be able to commit the flex subtree, >> feel free to commit something (clever ;-) to >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/t

Re: Flex Logo :: Community Action

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:22 PM, João Saleiro wrote: > Here's a starting point of the texts for the Apache Flex website announcing > the "contest", in case the idea goes forward. > > I've started writing these texts because someone had to do it - but they need > to be completed, changed, reviewed,

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Brent Arnold wrote: > I agree that this list *is* the community, but what does the "face" of Apache > Flex look like when it's out of incubator status? When I go to a website like > http://camel.apache.org, and then go to http://www.flex.org, which one looks > more

Re: Flex mobile components

2012-01-05 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/5/2012 9:38 PM, Brent Arnold wrote: This is something that's been bothering me lately, and since many Adobe Flex people are on this list, I wanted to get your feedback. 1. If Adobe is no longer developing Flex, but Adobe wants to continue promoting/developing AIR for mobile, but all of th

Flex mobile components

2012-01-05 Thread Brent Arnold
This is something that's been bothering me lately, and since many Adobe Flex people are on this list, I wanted to get your feedback. 1. If Adobe is no longer developing Flex, but Adobe wants to continue promoting/developing AIR for mobile, but all of the mobile components are written in Flex,

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Brent Arnold
I agree that this list *is* the community, but what does the "face" of Apache Flex look like when it's out of incubator status? When I go to a website like http://camel.apache.org, and then go to http://www.flex.org, which one looks more appealing? (no offense to Camel). Sure, both websites off

Re: Flex performance

2012-01-05 Thread Raju Bitter
2012/1/5 Jeffry Houser : >  I'm not sure this needs a new component framework, or set of components. >  (It might, but I just don't know).  There are already two approaches to > this in "early" development.  Falcon-JS by Adobe and I believe Michael > Labriola had done some experiments around that.

Re: Flex Logo :: Community Action

2012-01-05 Thread João Saleiro
Here's a starting point of the texts for the Apache Flex website announcing the "contest", in case the idea goes forward. I've started writing these texts because someone had to do it - but they need to be completed, changed, reviewed, etc - so feel free to change everything at your will. My E

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > >> I wasn't sure what features are available to the community for adding >> wiki's, etc. > > I might have over stepped my knowledge with saying that can happen, as the > actual site is in svn. So that might not be a possibility but anythin

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Fisher
I am enjoying the positive energy here on this list. There is an earnest, eagerness to get things done. On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Brent Arnold wrote: > That's a good point regarding whether we need a new website. I wasn't sure > what features are available to the community for adding wiki's,

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Troppmann
> - effective gradients can work in a non line art version (note html5 logo) correction ... html5 logo has no gradients. I like that about it.

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Troppmann
Nice job Carlos! Designing by committee completely sucks. I'm not opposed to the idea of a contest. I would vote on criteria that includes these basic criteria: - forget about Fx or anything close to Adobe identity - no apache feathers - simple, impactful - needs to work as line art (black and wh

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Peter Elst wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> As a member of the Flex community I wanted to contribute in some way, >> and since I'm not an initial committer or anything, I figured I could at >> least do something like setup and host a website --> apacheflex.org >>

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Jun Heider wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Brent Arnold wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> As a member of the Flex community I wanted to contribute in some way, and >> since I'm not an initial committer or anything, I figured I could at least >> do something li

Re: Flex SDK code conventions

2012-01-05 Thread Omar Gonzalez
+1 to what Doug said. Reformat before anyone commits and have a single code format style. It will be easier on everyone to not have to be conscious of multiple coding styles and will allow us to turn auto-format on save and never have the hodge podge mix of coding styles that is seen in the Flex SD

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 5, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Douglas Arthur wrote: > +1 this idea. And to add my 2 cents on the logo, I like the a simple and > elegant logo as well, but I think including the feather does not take away > from that as long as it's not overpowering. For logos that use the Apache Feather please s

svn access

2012-01-05 Thread Rui Duarte Silva
Can you please add me to svn commiters list. My Apache user name is rduartes. Thanks, Rui

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
Non-committers are supposed to submit patches to JIRA and committers and review and commit them. I would imagine we could do the same for our website as well, once we get JIRA up and established. On 1/5/12 4:28 PM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: > >> I wasn't sure what features are available to th

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
I wasn't sure what features are available to the community for adding wiki's, etc. I might have over stepped my knowledge with saying that can happen, as the actual site is in svn. So that might not be a possibility but anything else can happen. I need to check on if there is anything t

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Brent Arnold : That's a good point regarding whether we need a new website. I wasn't sure what features are available to the community for adding wiki's, etc. to the existing apache.org website. I would consider my site valuable to the community for things like sharing tutorials,

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
On 6 Jan 2012, at 00:12, Douglas Arthur wrote: The one problem I have with Metadata is when doing a code refactor, it does not take into account the Metadata tags. Thus, it's easier to miss changes that should be made to metadata when refactoring. That's to say if the Metadata is more comp

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Brent Arnold
That's a good point regarding whether we need a new website. I wasn't sure what features are available to the community for adding wiki's, etc. to the existing apache.org website. I would consider my site valuable to the community for things like sharing tutorials, listing discussions that are

RE: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
> From: Tink [mailto:f...@tink.ws] > > On 5 Jan 2012, at 23:48, Alex Harui wrote: > > > Maybe, but you're still using Metadata, for which I am not a fan. > > > > -- > > Alex Harui > > Flex SDK Team > > Adobe Systems, Inc. > > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > > > > But the metadata would be rem

Re: Flex Logo :: Community Action

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Peter Elst : Can someone please answer this with a consolidated list of requirements for a "trademark" logo. As per Bertrand's earlier post this might be useful - www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#graphics I think what we are all missing is the fact that t-shirt logos don't

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Carlos Rovira
As I said, we should try not to mimic what we had until now, since this will be very near to the adobe's logo...I think we could explore other possibilities, the F (only) with the slash, and so on... 2012/1/6 Douglas Arthur > > From: João Saleiro [mailto:joao.sale...@webfuel.pt] > > > > On 05-

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
On 5 Jan 2012, at 23:48, Alex Harui wrote: Maybe, but you're still using Metadata, for which I am not a fan. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui But the metadata would be removed from the final generated AS, just like [Bindable] is and replace

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Carlos Rovira
Thanks João, I think I had in mind what you think, I'll share it later since I now have to leave. C. 2012/1/6 João Saleiro > > On 05-01-2012 23:51, Carlos Rovira wrote: > >> http://www.carlosrovira.com/**apache-flex-logo-proposal.png >

RE: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
> From: João Saleiro [mailto:joao.sale...@webfuel.pt] > > On 05-01-2012 23:51, Carlos Rovira wrote: > > http://www.carlosrovira.com/apache-flex-logo-proposal.png > > > Just a note, after seeing your proposal: a square logo normally works better > for sharing in social networks and other content

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Elst
> > > Hi everyone, > > > > As a member of the Flex community I wanted to contribute in some way, > and since I'm not an initial committer or anything, I figured I could at > least do something like setup and host a website --> apacheflex.org > Thanks for the initiative, I'd propose to just have i

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Jun Heider wrote: > Brent, I like the initiative, but not sure if the ASF is cool with > external sites using "Apache" and "Flex" for branding. I could be wrong > though? >From my knowledge there are lots of missing registration and TMs for that site. Along with

IView & ViewNavigator

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
I know I'm jumping the gun here but On Adobe's 4.6 list there seemed to be a decent amount of interest in having an IView interface for use with the mobile navigators instead of them being typed to View. It seemed strange to me that Adobe choose to extend SkinnableContainer for the Vi

Re: Flex Logo :: Community Action

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Elst
> Can someone please answer this with a consolidated list of requirements > for a "trademark" logo. > As per Bertrand's earlier post this might be useful - www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#graphics I think what we are all missing is the fact that t-shirt logos don't belong > on exe icon

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread João Saleiro
On 05-01-2012 23:51, Carlos Rovira wrote: http://www.carlosrovira.com/apache-flex-logo-proposal.png Just a note, after seeing your proposal: a square logo normally works better for sharing in social networks and other content-sharing sites (imagine the logo as your twitter picture) . I woul

Re: Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Brent Arnold wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As a member of the Flex community I wanted to contribute in some way, and > since I'm not an initial committer or anything, I figured I could at least do > something like setup and host a website --> apacheflex.org. Brent, I l

RE: Flex SDK code conventions

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
> -Original Message- > From: Carol Frampton [mailto:cfram...@adobe.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:55 PM > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Flex SDK code conventions > > I think it would be okay to move the Flex coding standard over to Apache. > > We/I updated th

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > http://www.carlosrovira.com/apache-flex-logo-proposal.png Oh, I like that. The slash could be considered a stylized feather too -- Jonathan Campos

Re: Flex SDK code conventions

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > I think it would be okay to move the Flex coding standard over to Apache. That would be awesome! > > We/I updated the standard about a year ago with some changes people > wanted, like allowing line lengths up to 100 chars. We didn't take the

Flex Logo :: Community Action

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hi, This is a continuation of the Flex logo. Can someone please answer this with a consolidated list of requirements for a "trademark" logo. I think what we are all missing is the fact that t-shirt logos don't belong on exe icons on the desktop. This is the logo we are looking for right

Apache Flex community website

2012-01-05 Thread Brent Arnold
Hi everyone, As a member of the Flex community I wanted to contribute in some way, and since I'm not an initial committer or anything, I figured I could at least do something like setup and host a website --> apacheflex.org. I realize that the core of the project will remain with apache.org,

Re: Flex SDK code conventions

2012-01-05 Thread Carol Frampton
I think it would be okay to move the Flex coding standard over to Apache. We/I updated the standard about a year ago with some changes people wanted, like allowing line lengths up to 100 chars. We didn't take the time to eliminate all the TBDs. I will strongly advocate for 4 spaces rather than t

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread João Saleiro
On 05-01-2012 23:42, Peter Elst wrote: Don't need to set up a formal contest but maybe people can blog and tweet about it, let people share their logo proposal on the mailinglist and we do a vote thread by next wednesday or so? - Peter I would suggest that a wiki section was added to the Apa

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Carlos Rovira
Thanks Doug!, I didn't know we could not share files here. Here's the link to my proposal. http://www.carlosrovira.com/apache-flex-logo-proposal.png Best, Carlos Rovira 2012/1/6 Douglas Arthur > >From: carlos.rov...@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rov...@gmail.com] On Behalf > Of Carlos Rovira >

RE: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
>From: carlos.rov...@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rov...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of >Carlos Rovira >Hi, > >here's my own logo proposal. Hope you like it. > >Some points to highlight about the design: > >* I tried to create something simple, that looks elegant and sober, and yes, >that could fit in a T-S

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 3:38 PM, "Tink" wrote: > > So, something like, > > [Inject] > private var test:Foo > Maybe, but you're still using Metadata, for which I am not a fan. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
I'm definitely still in favor of using the logo as an opportunity to drive community participation and put a spotlight on Apache Flex and the new open model we're working in. Don't need to set up a formal contest but maybe people can blog and tweet about it, let people share their logo proposa

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Campos
> I realize that and agree, I also agree with you on something that needs to > scale well, and feathers won't. > > Did you notice my smile after my suggestion. > Completely missed it, sorry. I think we're on the same page. -- Jonathan Campos

RE: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
> > > IMHO, like it was said before on the ML, I think we should open a > > > public > > "contest" for the new logo limited in time (5 days?). At the end we > > put all the proposals in a web page for voting. This would not only > > give more choice to choose from, but also raise awareness around t

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, here's my own logo proposal. Hope you like it. Some points to highlight about the design: * I tried to create something simple, that looks elegant and sober, and yes, that could fit in a T-Shirt... or at leadt I tried it ;). * I Searched that black logo over white background, (and white over

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Elst
> > IMHO, like it was said before on the ML, I think we should open a public > "contest" for the new logo limited in time (5 days?). At the end we put all > the proposals in a web page for voting. This would not only give more > choice to choose from, but also raise awareness around the fact that F

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jonathan Campos : On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Sounds like there is opposition to something that looks like FX because of infringement and opposition to the feather because I guess it looks to artsy fartsy. I think anything with the feather looks too lit

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
On 5 Jan 2012, at 23:37, Jonathan Campos wrote: It seems like there is plenty of interest for some logo creation. I'd say we do a contest also. -- Jonathan Campos +1 for contest.

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
On 5 Jan 2012, at 23:12, Alex Harui wrote: You can inject at compile time unless you can only determine what to inject at runtime. Like locales, automated testing engines, themes. There are use cases for both. A good DI implementation will support both. I have a further goal that compile-

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Jun Heider wrote: > +1 to logo contest. It seems like there is plenty of interest for some logo creation. I'd say we do a contest also. -- Jonathan Campos

RE: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
+1 this idea. And to add my 2 cents on the logo, I like the a simple and elegant logo as well, but I think including the feather does not take away from that as long as it's not overpowering. - Doug -Original Message- From: João Saleiro [mailto:joao.sale...@webfuel.pt] Sent: Thursday, J

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:28 PM, João Saleiro wrote: > > IMHO, like it was said before on the ML, I think we should open a public > "contest" for the new logo limited in time (5 days?). At the end we put all > the proposals in a web page for voting. This would not only give more choice > to choose

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread João Saleiro
I think the logo should be very simple, but at the same time transmit some idea/emotion that describes Flex. For example, for me the three words that identify Flex are: * User Experience * Ubiquity / Cross-platform * Enterprise These could be a starting point for inspiration on the new logo

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > Sounds like there is opposition to something that looks like FX because of > infringement and opposition to the feather because I guess it looks to artsy > fartsy. > > Always to sides of the brain when it comes to this stuff for sure. I

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Sounds like there is opposition to something that looks like FX because of > infringement and opposition to the feather because I guess it looks to > artsy fartsy. I think anything with the feather looks too literal and takes away from a

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jun Heider : Or how about an F and to the right of it two apache feathers crossed over each other draping to the left and right, like mirrored. :) I think I would +1 a stylized version of this one. Sounds like there is opposition to something that looks like FX because of in

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
> Or how about an F and to the right of it two apache feathers crossed over > each other draping to the left and right, like mirrored. :) I think I would +1 a stylized version of this one.

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Campos
I would encourage the designers here to keep it simple (like the current FB logo) No offense to apache, but if we can get away with not using a multicolored feather in a logo I'd be a happy person -- Jonathan Campos

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 1:45 PM, "Tink" wrote: > > Couldn't we inject at compile time.As the compiler does with other > metadata it could find injection points, and using Singletons hidden > behind the scenes to give the correct values to the correct properties > in the generated code? This would remove t

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Fréderic Cox : I'm not graphic designer and this might be over the top but .. Can we create an F with three apache feathers? Or use the colors from the feather as background color for seperate blocks/circles with the letters F L E X in them? I would encourage the designers here to keep

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 1:47 PM, "Tink" wrote: > Its a square with 2 letters on. If we changed the font slightly, > change the color of the square, surely there could be no comebacks? > I asked about that. If you make a derivative that has enough similarities, it can still be infringement. You can't jus

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 1:51 PM, "Wael Jammal" wrote: > Why not provide a low level API like you say, making MetaData first class > and improving reflection to work more like it does in Java? Adobe is donating the Flex framework and not the ActionScript VM. We might be able to modify the compiler to conve

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Fréderic Cox
I'm not graphic designer and this might be over the top but .. Can we create an F with three apache feathers? Or use the colors from the feather as background color for seperate blocks/circles with the letters F L E X in them? I would encourage the designers here to keep it simple (like the curren

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Randy Troppmann
Last night I made these for placeholder graphics and as perhaps a place to start discussion: http://randytroppmann.com/flex/apache-flex-logo-69x80.png http://randytroppmann.com/flex/apache-flex-logo.png - Randy

Re: Tooling ( Flex SDK code conventions )

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hi Rick, I'm looking at ANTLR3 now... and am entertaining a ground-up rewrite to get rid of unnecessary dependencies, improve performance, and flesh out some attachment points for other tooling (i.e. FlexPMD). What are you exactly proposing? Have you though about contacting Ernest about a

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
>> just out of practical concerns - does it look good >> scaled down and in grayscale? >> > > I really like the way it looks but I agree with peter. > > I've always been taught that a good logo needs to be prepared to be scaled > up or down along with needing to be able to translate to a 2 col

Re: Flex SDK code conventions

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
> +1 for the coding conventions. I'll give that a second +1 > > Although I do want to point out that the coding conventions at > http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Coding+Conventions are not > complete and there are a lot of "TBD"'s in the document. I think our podling can have a

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Carlos Rovira
Right! hehe :) 2012/1/5 Rick Winscot > It's true we've come a long way with technology... but there is one > _major_ consideration for the final logo. It needs to bode-well on a > t-shirt. ;-) > > Cheers, > > Rick Winscot > > > On Thursday, January 5, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Erik Lundgren wrote: > > >

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Rick Winscot
It's true we've come a long way with technology... but there is one _major_ consideration for the final logo. It needs to bode-well on a t-shirt. ;-) Cheers, Rick Winscot On Thursday, January 5, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Erik Lundgren wrote: > > does it look good scaled down and in grayscale? > > >

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Carlos Rovira
IMHO, the current logo is not best suited for this new journey. Let me explain. The Adobe Flex logo was part of a huge suite of Adobe Software that all shares a common style. Maintaining the actual logo with few changes should bring Adobe problems, and I doubt that Adobe allow to use the actual lo

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Wael Jammal
Why not provide a low level API like you say, making MetaData first class and improving reflection to work more like it does in Java? Json and XML are just too slow compared to native reflection, I and many others have built our own DI frameworks docs.bojinx.co.uk for exa

Re: Tooling ( Flex SDK code conventions )

2012-01-05 Thread Rick Winscot
That is essentially what I did - took all the dependencies and wrapped them up into a single executable jar. The final product is a little over 20mb - it would be great if we could shrink this down a bit. Getting the formatter to run on the command line is a first step... unfortunately the only

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Erik Lundgren
> does it look good scaled down and in grayscale? Hi Peter, Jonathan & Jun Thanks for your input! Up until recently I only made simple logos with few colors. This design is indeed complex, built on fine grained shades in color. Why? In my day-to-day-work I've found out that information technol

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
Its a square with 2 letters on. If we changed the font slightly, change the color of the square, surely there could be no comebacks? On 5 Jan 2012, at 21:45, Alex Harui wrote: "We are still trying to determine if the current logo can be used or modified."

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces (Dependency Injection)

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
This is because DI currently happens at runtime not compile time and depend on listening to Event.ADDED_TO_STAGE at the capture phase (which alone slows things down when I tested it, I can only presume these events don't get dispatch if its not listened to, and if you add this listener ever

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/5/12 1:37 PM, "Jeffry Houser" wrote: > > Are we allowed to use the current logo? I thought we were under the > assumption we couldn't; but I don't actually know that. > We are still trying to determine if the current logo can be used or modified. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe S

RE: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
>Is your website down? I can't get to it. Ahh, it must be something with the network I'm on. I can get to it from Verizon's 4G network!

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Jeffry Houser
Are we allowed to use the current logo? I thought we were under the assumption we couldn't; but I don't actually know that. I personally would love to see the current logo used with the Apache Feather integrated somehow. I haven't the foggiest idea how to pull that off, though. On 1/5/

RE: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
Is your website down? I can't get to it.

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Tink
I quite like the current logo, its also well known so I'd like to stick with it maybe just implementing the Apache colors. Here's a rough idea http://www.tink.ws/Flex-Logo.png What we should definitely do if collect all the ideas a host them in one place on one HTML page so they can be comp

Re: Tooling ( Flex SDK code conventions )

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hi Rick Ernest actually commented on my blog post today about this very thing! Saying his formatter can run on the command line with minimal eclipse jars. Quoting him "FYI, you can run FlexFormatter from the command line if that helps. It still requires some Eclipse jars, but you don’t h

Re: Tooling ( Flex SDK code conventions )

2012-01-05 Thread Rogelio Castillo Aqueveque
Hi Rick I'd like to try the tool out (mac) R On 5/01/2012, at 6:08 PM, Rick Winscot wrote: > I have command-line version of the Flex Formatter ready to test... if anyone > (preferably on a Mac) would like to give it a go - let me know. > > The tool is executed on the command-line as: > > jav

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Erik Lundgren
> from a business stand-point I find it important to portray a solid foundation, > stability, and future life.. Hi John, Thanks for your input! It bodes well for the future of flex if you can send out a sketch and get feedback a few minutes later. :) If you like the "page-turning" concept I be

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Peter Elst wrote: >> I'm wondering if there are some branding guidelines to using the word >> Apache in an incubator project logo, any particular font required or is it >> expected to use the feather in

Tooling ( Flex SDK code conventions )

2012-01-05 Thread Rick Winscot
I have command-line version of the Flex Formatter ready to test... if anyone (preferably on a Mac) would like to give it a go - let me know. The tool is executed on the command-line as: java -jar ApacheFlexFormatter.jar -settings=[ path to .properties file ] -path=[ file, files, or directory ]

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Peter Elst wrote: > I'm wondering if there are some branding guidelines to using the word > Apache in an incubator project logo, any particular font required or is it > expected to use the feather in there?... See here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.h

RE: svn commit: r801825 - in /websites/production/flex: ./ content/flex/developer-faqs.html

2012-01-05 Thread Douglas Arthur
On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > >> > >> My comment was meant to say great job in doing what needs to be done on your >> own initiative. That type of action is part of the Apache Way. It is often >> abbreviated as JFDI. >> >> CTR = Commit then Review. >> >> No apologies

Re: Flex SDK code conventions

2012-01-05 Thread Jun Heider
> +1 for the coding conventions. I'll give that a second +1 > > Although I do want to point out that the coding conventions at > http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Coding+Conventions are not > complete and there are a lot of "TBD"'s in the document. I think our podling can have a

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Elst
I'm wondering if there are some branding guidelines to using the word Apache in an incubator project logo, any particular font required or is it expected to use the feather in there? - Peter On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Rick Winscot wrote: > Here's another... perhaps too simple? > > http://

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