Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 04.47, Ferdi Scholten wrote: On 08-06-2025 04:21, Mark Filipak wrote: The script above provoked this: "Too many bits 15269.442177 > 12288 per frame requested, clamping to max". Of course, I have no idea what that's about. Do you? "Too many bits"? Simple, the fixed bitrate you spec

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command should I use? ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubsc

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Ferdi Scholten
On 08-06-2025 18:59, Mark Filipak wrote: On 08/06/2025 04.47, Ferdi Scholten wrote: On 08-06-2025 04:21, Mark Filipak wrote: The script above provoked this: "Too many bits 15269.442177 > 12288 per frame requested, clamping to max". Of course, I have no idea what that's about. Do you? "Too ma

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:19 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command should I use? > There are numerous infos on web that native, ffmpeg AAC encoder is sub-optimal on low bit-rates. For above question, audio filter stack wi

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 14.54, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:31 PM Mark Filipak < Do you ever encode music, Paul? If so, what do you use? FLAC only. Yes, Z has convinced me. Thanks to both you and Z. I will use flac-in-m4a. ___ ffmpeg-user m

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 6/8/2025 12:50 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: I will go with FLAC due to endorsement by the US National Archives BTW it took me under 2 minutes to find that; a little more research before asserting things might be productive. z! ___ ffmpeg-user mailin

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 16.05, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 6/8/2025 12:50 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: I will go with FLAC due to endorsement by the US National Archives BTW it took me under 2 minutes to find that; a little more research before asserting things might be productive. z! I apologize, Z. I was n

[FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
Is FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) lossless for compression_level > 0? That is possible of course -- trading compression for encoding time -- but the documentation doesn't say. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mai

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 14.50, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:10 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: Am 08.06.2025 um 19:47 schrieb Mark Filipak: FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the future. It is, as already covered. Th

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 8:36 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > Is FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) lossless for compression_level > 0? > That is possible of course -- trading compression for encoding time -- but > the documentation doesn't > say. > Its just diffe

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2025-06-08 13:35, Mark Filipak wrote: Is FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) lossless for compression_level > 0? Yes, says the FLAC documentation[1]: it is "an audio format similar to MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without any loss in quality." That is possibl

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command should I use? I want archival quality. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-requ...@ffmpeg

[FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
ffmpeg^ -i "c:\chapters.txt"^ -i c:\01.WAV^ -i c:\02.WAV^ -i c:\03.WAV^ -i c:\04.WAV^ -i c:\05.WAV^ -i c:\06.WAV^ -i c:\07.WAV^ -i c:\08.WAV^ -filter_complex "[1:0][2:0][3:0][4:0][5:0][6:0][7:0][8:0]concat=n=8:v=0:a=1[out]"^ -map_metadata 0 -map "[out]"^ -c aac -b:a 657.6k^ "c:\Ashra

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 13.31, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:27 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command should I use? I want archival quality. In other circles, archival quality means lossless, thus FLAC and not AAC

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:47 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > On 08/06/2025 13.31, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:27 PM Mark Filipak < > > markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > >> For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command shou

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 13.31, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:27 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command should I use? I want archival quality. In other circles, archival quality means lossless, thus FLAC and not AAC

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 13.47, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 6/8/2025 10:43 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the future. Leave them in PCM then, that'll be around forever. Want them to be smaller? gzip the files; sure, you can't just play those directly,

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 6/8/2025 10:43 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the future. Leave them in PCM then, that'll be around forever. Want them to be smaller? gzip the files; sure, you can't just play those directly, but 'archival' doesn't necessarily also m

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Bernhard Döbler
Am 08.06.2025 um 19:47 schrieb Mark Filipak: FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the future. What constitutes a standard? https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc9639.html ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:42 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > ffmpeg^ > -i "c:\chapters.txt"^ > -i c:\01.WAV^ > -i c:\02.WAV^ > -i c:\03.WAV^ > -i c:\04.WAV^ > -i c:\05.WAV^ > -i c:\06.WAV^ > -i c:\07.WAV^ > -i c:\08.WAV^ > -filter_complex > "

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread BloodMan
Hi Mark, W dniu 2025-06-08 o 19:47, Mark Filipak pisze: On 08/06/2025 13.31, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:27 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: In other circles, archival quality means lossless, thus FLAC and not AAC. FLAC is not a standard. I d

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 13.52, Bernhard Döbler wrote: Am 08.06.2025 um 19:47 schrieb Mark Filipak: FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the future. What constitutes a standard? That's a good question. To me, it's a construction document from an authority on the art. The In

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:18 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > On 08/06/2025 13.51, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:42 PM Mark Filipak < > > markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > >> ffmpeg^ > >>-i "c:\chapters.txt"^ > >>-i

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:10 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > On 08/06/2025 13.52, Bernhard Döbler wrote: > > Am 08.06.2025 um 19:47 schrieb Mark Filipak: > >> FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the > future. > > > > What constitutes

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
Well, I see one mistake I made... Correction: "(44.1 k-samples/sec/channel)*(16 bits/sample)=705.6 k-bits/second/channel" was "(41.1 k-samples/sec/channel)*(16 bits/sample)=657.6 k-bits/second/channel" On 08/06/2025 04.47, Ferdi Scholten wrote: On 08-06-2025 04:21, Mark Filipak wrote: The scrip

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 14.26, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:18 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: On 08/06/2025 13.51, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:42 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: ffmpeg^ -i "c:\c

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 14.27, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:10 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: On 08/06/2025 13.52, Bernhard Döbler wrote: Am 08.06.2025 um 19:47 schrieb Mark Filipak: FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
Hey, Paul. On 08/06/2025 13.23, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:19 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command should I use? There are numerous infos on web that native, ffmpeg AAC encoder is sub-optimal on low bit

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:27 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > For AAC encoding of pcm_s16le, what command should I use? > > I want archival quality. > In other circles, archival quality means lossless, thus FLAC and not AAC. > _

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 6/8/2025 10:50 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Thanks, Carl. Who?? We've been over this before. How do I do pcm-in-m4a? You don't, you leave them in well-supported wav files. z! ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.or

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 13.52, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 6/8/2025 10:50 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Thanks, Carl. Who?? We've been over this before. My email client says "Carl Zwanzig wrote:". I'm sorry I forgot that you object to "Carl". I'm just trying to do the best I can. Please forgive me. How do

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 13.51, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 5:42 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: ffmpeg^ -i "c:\chapters.txt"^ -i c:\01.WAV^ -i c:\02.WAV^ -i c:\03.WAV^ -i c:\04.WAV^ -i c:\05.WAV^ -i c:\06.WAV^ -i c:\07.WAV^ -i c

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:10 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: Am 08.06.2025 um 19:47 schrieb Mark Filipak: FLAC is not a standard. I don't trust that it will be around in the future. It is, as already covered. The Internet Engineering Task Force is not a

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:31 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > On 08/06/2025 14.26, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:18 PM Mark Filipak < > > markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > >> On 08/06/2025 13.51, Paul B Mahol wrote: > >>> O

Re: [FFmpeg-user] MP4s (and M4As) for music

2025-06-08 Thread Ferdi Scholten
On 08-06-2025 04:21, Mark Filipak wrote: The script above provoked this: "Too many bits 15269.442177 > 12288 per frame requested, clamping to max". Of course, I have no idea what that's about. Do you? "Too many bits"? Simple, the fixed bitrate you specified is very much too high for the au

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 17.06, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: On 2025-06-08 13:35, Mark Filipak wrote: Is FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) lossless for compression_level > 0? Yes, says the FLAC documentation[1]: it is "an audio format similar to MP3, but lossless, meaning that audio is compressed in FLAC without

[FFmpeg-user] FLAC experience so far

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
The source: c:\01.WAV 620,398,844 bytes ffmpeg^ -i c:\01.WAV^ -map 0^ -c flac^ "c:\Manual Goettsching [1992] E2-E4.flac.m4a" Provoked: "Could not find tag for codec flac in stream #0, codec not currently supported in container". ffmpeg^ -i c:\01.WAV^ -map 0^ -c flac -compression_level 1

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2025-06-08 16:17, Mark Filipak wrote: On 08/06/2025 17.06, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: On 2025-06-08 13:35, Mark Filipak wrote: Is FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) lossless for compression_level > 0? Yes, says the FLAC documentation[1]: it is "an audio format similar to MP3, but lossless, meani

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 08/06/2025 20.39, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: On 2025-06-08 16:17, Mark Filipak wrote: On 08/06/2025 17.06, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: On 2025-06-08 13:35, Mark Filipak wrote: Is FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) lossless for compression_level > 0? Yes, says the FLAC documentation[1]: it is "an audio f

Re: [FFmpeg-user] FLAC experience so far

2025-06-08 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 11:31 PM Mark Filipak < markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > The source: c:\01.WAV > 620,398,844 bytes > > ffmpeg^ > -i c:\01.WAV^ > -map 0^ > -c flac^ > "c:\Manual Goettsching [1992] E2-E4.flac.m4a" > > Provoked: "Could not find tag for codec flac in s

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 09/06/2025 00.25, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 6/8/2025 5:46 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: That's the so-called specification. I read it. It's vague. Compared to MPEG's specifications, it's quite vague. What's your point? It _is_ the spec for FLAC, no "so-called" about it, and it does not seem that va

Re: [FFmpeg-user] Is FLAC lossless for compression_level > 0?

2025-06-08 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 6/8/2025 5:46 PM, Mark Filipak wrote: That's the so-called specification. I read it. It's vague. Compared to MPEG's specifications, it's quite vague. What's your point? It _is_ the spec for FLAC, no "so-called" about it, and it does not seem that vague to me. Heck, people have actually man