Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Lou Logan
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lou Logan wrote: > Back in ye olde cvs days it made more sense, but not anymore with git. > Legacy and tradition alone shouldn't be a factor. ...and just for comparison: ffmpeg-devel: 1800 subscribers ffmpeg-cvslog: 190 subscribers ___

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Lou Logan
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017, at 03:45 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > > Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. Back in ye olde cvs days it made more sense, but not anymore with git. Legacy and tradition alone shouldn't be a factor. ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing l

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread wm4
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:09:40 + Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 12/4/2017 12:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > > Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. > > "Have to"? I certainly am not, and neither are many. Are you going to > kick all of them out and revoke their push access? I think not

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Hendrik Leppkes
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 12/4/2017 12:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. > > "Have to"? I certainly am not, and neither are many. Are you going to > kick all of them out and revoke their push access? I think not. > I

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 12/4/2017 12:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Committers have to be subscribed to -cvslog. "Have to"? I certainly am not, and neither are many. Are you going to kick all of them out and revoke their push access? I think not. It's clear that the majority here do not agree with you on this issue

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-04 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-12-03 6:37 GMT+01:00 Timothy Gu : > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:03 PM Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> If you believe that it is unclear that there is a difference between an >> occasional contributor (who most likely would not read -devel nor >> -cvslog) and a committer (who is supposed to read -cvs

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-12-02 Thread Timothy Gu
Hi all, On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 12:32 AM Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > 1. In doc/developer.texi, eliminate the single chapter, > and promote each section underneath to chapter, and > each subsection to section. Thus content and relative > structure remains the same, but the overall structure is > simpler

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 11/26/17, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > On 2017-11-26 04:38, Paul B Mahol wrote: >> On 11/26/17, Nicolas George wrote: >>> Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): Your opinions are irrelevant. >>> # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. >>> # Treat others the way you yourself want to be

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-26 04:38, Paul B Mahol wrote: On 11/26/17, Nicolas George wrote: Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): Your opinions are irrelevant. # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. # Treat others the way you yourself want to be treated. Please stop trampling the code of conduc

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 11/26/17, Nicolas George wrote: > Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): >> Your opinions are irrelevant. > > # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. > # Treat others the way you yourself want to be treated. > > Please stop trampling the code of conduct. Please stop being extremly r

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Nicolas George
Paul B Mahol (2017-11-26): > Your opinions are irrelevant. # Be friendly and respectful towards others and third parties. # Treat others the way you yourself want to be treated. Please stop trampling the code of conduct. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 11/26/17, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2017-11-26 9:31 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > >> -@subsection Documentation/Other >> +@section Documentation/Other >> +@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-devel mailing list. >> +It is important to be subscribed to the > > Of course it is important but I would m

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section (v2)

2017-11-26 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-26 9:31 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > -@subsection Documentation/Other > +@section Documentation/Other > +@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-devel mailing list. > +It is important to be subscribed to the Of course it is important but I would much, much prefer if people send their patches wi

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-23 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-22 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-23 0:39 GMT+01:00 Derek Buitenhuis : On 11/22/2017 11:34 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: Please understand I am against removing the paragraph from the documentation because I believe it is a good idea if developers are subscribed to -cvslog.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-23 0:39 GMT+01:00 Derek Buitenhuis : > On 11/22/2017 11:34 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> Please understand I am against removing the paragraph from the >> documentation because I believe it is a good idea if developers >> are subscribed to -cvslog. > > Perhaps it can be reworded a bit to s

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/22/2017 11:34 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Please understand I am against removing the paragraph from the > documentation because I believe it is a good idea if developers > are subscribed to -cvslog. Perhaps it can be reworded a bit to say it's encouraged for the cited reasons, but not man

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-22 15:03 GMT+01:00 Derek Buitenhuis : > On 11/21/2017 11:40 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> I am against removing this paragraph. > > He specifically asked if it was required of new developers to subscribe > to this list, in a separate thread, earlier[1]. Paul explicitly said it > was *not*

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-22 Thread Derek Buitenhuis
On 11/21/2017 11:40 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > I am against removing this paragraph. He specifically asked if it was required of new developers to subscribe to this list, in a separate thread, earlier[1]. Paul explicitly said it was *not* required[2], Timo said no discussion happens on the list

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-21 16:05, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-22 0:59 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: On 2017-11-21 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. -It is important to do this as the diffs of all commits are sent

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-22 0:59 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > On 2017-11-21 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> >> 2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: >> >>> -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. >>> -It is important to do this as the diffs of all commits are sent there >>> and >>> -reviewed by

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
On 2017-11-21 15:40, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt: -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. -It is important to do this as the diffs of all commits are sent there and -reviewed by all the other developers. Bugs and possible improvements or -ge

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Refactor Developer Docs, update dev list section

2017-11-21 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
2017-11-21 22:41 GMT+01:00 Jim DeLaHunt : > -@subheading Subscribe to the ffmpeg-cvslog mailing list. > -It is important to do this as the diffs of all commits are sent there and > -reviewed by all the other developers. Bugs and possible improvements or > -general questions regarding commits are d