Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Subtitle Filtering Ramp-Up

2025-06-03 Thread Devlist Archive
Which code branch does the patchset being discussed live in? Zach On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 10:15 AM Devlist Archive wrote: > > Given the preceding conversations, it is pretty safe to assume > > that these comments are based on personal sentiments rather than > > technical ex

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Subtitle Filtering Ramp-Up

2025-06-03 Thread Devlist Archive
> Given the preceding conversations, it is pretty safe to assume > that these comments are based on personal sentiments rather than > technical expertise. While there may be truth to that, it isn't helpful to discount objections without a chance to substantiate them. If the person objecting choos

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Subtitle Filtering Ramp-Up

2025-06-03 Thread Devlist Archive
Please can we stop keeping score and give everyone a chance to actually get some work done? I would love to see more objective discussions on this topic. As others have mentioned, let's focus on why specific things are needed so any objections can be understood and translated into code modificati

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-05-28 Thread Devlist Archive
not fully briefed on, but some structural change like subtitle filtering is needed to solve the broken state of captions support in ffmpeg. Zach On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 6:55 PM Devlist Archive wrote: > I believe I have sorted out the embed/extract issues I encountered into a > formatting iss

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-09 Thread Devlist Archive
I believe I have sorted out the embed/extract issues I encountered into a formatting issue with the .scc file and lack of eia-608 codec for embedding captions. It is possible this might be a result of an oversight regarding drop frame or non drop frame time codes with some part of the chain that h

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-09 Thread Devlist Archive
> > Not to start an argument, but WebVTT is kind of a terrible format. > It's a lowest common denominator and loses most formatting information > available even in 608 (which is now more than 40 years old). Stuff > like rollup captions for live programming, color (to distinguish > speakers) and ca

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
ftworkz-at-hotmail@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of > > Devlist Archive > > Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 8:52 PM > > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches > de...@ffmpeg.org> > > Subject:

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
knows they > are working with the exact same files. Sorry, I updated it with some other examples, I am uploading the original ones again now. On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 11:52 AM Devin Heitmueller < devin.heitmuel...@ltnglobal.com> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:31 PM Devlist Archiv

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
age----- > > From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of > > Devlist Archive > > Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 8:31 PM > > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches > de...@ffmpeg.org> > > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC > > > > > > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 11:03 AM Devin Heitmueller < devin.heitmuel...@ltnglobal.com> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 1:32 PM Devlist Archive wrote: > > That is good to hear, FYI any time 708 captions present in a DTVCC video > > stream there also must be 608 captions wrapped in that s

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
automatically and not need special filter commands to preserve them. The captions I work with are basically user data captions but in an mp4 file according to SCTE 128 / DTVCC Transport. Zach On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 10:05 AM Devin Heitmueller < devin.heitmuel...@ltnglobal.com> wrote: >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
My application is actually to generate a playout library for over the air TV, then implement a captions data path into a sub project that relies on ffmpeg for decode/encode. So I need to not just do archival, but build a library in a usable format. This requires an ingest process for both an edi

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-07 Thread Devlist Archive
an be generated and submitted? Zach On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 7:39 AM Marth64 wrote: > Hi folks > > Zach (Devlist Archive): > Thanks for sharing your experience and I hope a resolution comes out > of it. I encourage you to write this email instead to the ffmpeg-user > list (or

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-06 Thread Devlist Archive
Hi Jack, Thanks for the suggestions. Could you please tell me where I can get a build of ffmpeg that will work with the -c:s scc command? That encoder doesn't seem to be in the release version I am working with. It is slightly unclear to me how your suggestion for the extract command suggestion

[FFmpeg-devel] Captions SCC

2025-02-06 Thread Devlist Archive
Greetings, I have been absent from the list for a few years, so I would appreciate it if someone could catch me up a bit. I am needing to extract and embed scc files with 608 captions. I am pleased to see that transcoding without frame rate changes now preserves 608 intact, and there appear to b