Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

2022-10-22 Thread Philippe Lefèvre
Yes, this "Social Networks" orientation with these likes, badges and other school gadgets is really appalling even though today's "majors" (Facebook, Apple etc ...) are having a field day capturing kids (... and big kids). An option in one's own personal Evolution profile to remove this useles

Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes when trying to compose email

2022-10-22 Thread Pete Biggs
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 19:58 -0400, Ken Wright wrote: > On 2022-10-21 19:45, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > I just upgraded to Ubuntu 22.10 and Evolution 3.46.0-2, and all of a > > > sudden I can't compose, send, or reply without Evo crashing. There's > > > obviously something wrong in the installa

Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes when trying to compose email

2022-10-22 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Replying to myself: I Googled how to install the most recent Flatpak, > and it appears to be working properly now. Thanks, Pete, for pointing > me in the right direction! > Flatpak Evo versions have got much better recently, but you still need to realise that they run in their own sandbox

Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

2022-10-22 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 10:52 +0200, Philippe Lefèvre wrote: > Yes, this "Social Networks" orientation with these likes, badges and > other school gadgets is really appalling even though today's "majors" > (Facebook, Apple etc ...) are having a field day capturing kids (... > and big kids). > > An o

Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes when trying to compose email

2022-10-22 Thread Mark Stanton
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 10:23 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 19:58 -0400, Ken Wright wrote: > > On 2022-10-21 19:45, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > The problem with fixing things at the source level is that unless > it's > a security bug, it often takes a while to filter through to u

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 20:04 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Brewster Gillett said on Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:50:24 -0700 > > > > Excellent question. I'll toss out this possibility: > > > > > > > > We're using groups.io for a couple of the Mensa discussion lists > > I'm > > on. Mostl

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-22 Thread Mark Stanton
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:09 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list wrote: > Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 13:04:15 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > > > It seems to take some time. I suspect Discourse is batching emails. I've been receiving them frequently. I signed up a couple of hours ago and have had

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:02 +0100, Mark Stanton wrote: > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:09 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list > wrote: > > Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 13:04:15 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > > > > > It seems to take some time. I suspect Discourse is batching > > > emails. > > I've been

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-22 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 13:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I seem to be getting them now. Trouble is, I'm also getting stuff > that has absolutely nothing to do with Evolution, despite having set > a tag (or whatever it's called) to "Evolution". If you set "Mailing list mode" in your Discours

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 08:50 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 13:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I seem to be getting them now. Trouble is, I'm also getting stuff > > that has absolutely nothing to do with Evolution, despite having > > set > > a tag (or whatever it's called)

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 13:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > So the way to get it working as a proper mailing list is by turning off > Mailing List Mode. So intuitive. Hi, yesno, even after doing so, it is not working as a proper mailing list. The emails are still multipart messages with remot

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

2022-10-22 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 13:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > So the way to get it working as a proper mailing list is by turning > off Mailing List Mode. So intuitive. Agreed it's really poorly named. I think the idea is that if you enable it then it's as if the entire Discourse site becomes o

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list
On 10/21/22 11:50, Brewster Gillett wrote: Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list wrote: A quick and simple question: who is in position to decide to move this list to another mailing list, hosted elsewhere? There have been already a few propositions on this list for an alternative. Who is the "own

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 09:53 -0500, Anonymous Japhering wrote: > Groups.io is interesting but also there are a few concerning things > The free level only allows up to 100 members -- how many folks are in >  the current list? >   >  All levels have restrictions on archive size:  1GB, 30GB, 1TB. ht

[Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Pete Biggs
I thought I would put together some of my thoughts about using Discourse that I have gained in just a day of using it. A day is not very long and I may not have fully understood everything - but there again, I am, apparently, the top poster on the topic with most replies in the Application category

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 09:53 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > The free level only allows up to 100 members -- how many folks are in > the current list? Around 850 at the moment. > All levels have restrictions on archive size:  1GB, 30GB, 1TB. Anyone > know how big, size wise

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread mario chiari
+1 On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > If this is real, then the "communicating" has been sadly lacking. > This > is the first I've heard of it. > > > I'm sorry, but I find "Forum" type things, which I believe is what > Discourse is, not at all intuitive and I hate dea

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Torsten Krah via evolution-list
I do have the skills to drive a mailman list from an infrastructure point of view including all the mta, spam etc. stuff with postfix & co, DNS etc. pp. We would need a maildomain + some hosting provider and now here it gets interesting - at least it is much less than the group.io prices written

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 17:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > First, a thought about the demise of the Mailman mailing list. A while back FreeBSD migrated from Mailman to another Software and the still provide the old Mailman archive + the Archive of the new mailing list software, for example https://lis

Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 19:14 +0200, Torsten Krah wrote: > The problem is we do only have a few days left to discuss that Hi, in 2021 a member of the Ubuntu community started to run an off-topic mailing list. It has got very low traffic, the list archive only contains January 2021, February 2021, M

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 19:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 17:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > First, a thought about the demise of the Mailman mailing list. > > A while back FreeBSD migrated from Mailman to another Software and > the > still provide the old M

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 17:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > I thought I would put together some of my thoughts about using > Discourse that I have gained in just a day of using it. A day is not > very long and I may not have fully understood everything - but there > again, I am, apparently, the top post

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 22:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 17:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I thought I would put together some of my thoughts about using > > Discourse that I have gained in just a day of using it. A day is not > > very long and I may not have fully und

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 02:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 22:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 17:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > I thought I would put together some of my thoughts about using > > > Discourse that I have gained in just a day of usin

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 02:41 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 02:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 22:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 17:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > I thought I would put together some of my thoughts about u

Re: [Evolution] Thoughts on Discourse and use as a mailing list

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 01:59 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > This has been my experience with GNOME decision makers in other areas > as well. Failure to engage, diminution of concerns and then moving on > with the tired refrain of it's open source so your could fix it > yourself, and then cycling back

[Evolution] The system of levels, badges and presents of Discourse

2022-10-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
By closing individual mailman mailing lists and replacing it with a single forum, everything is under control of a single authority. There even isn't the need to moderate or ban users with unwanted opinions, since the users are educated by levels, badges and presents. IOW all users are under genera