Hi,
Pre...
Ubuntu 8.04, Latest updates installed
Evolution: 2.22.3.1
Recently, I get errors sending e-mails:
"Error while performing operation. DATA command failed: Message refused"
I've changed my default mail server to GoDaddy. and it seems only to
happen when using those accounts.
I'm
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 01:24 -0600, Kojak T wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Pre...
>
> Ubuntu 8.04, Latest updates installed
> Evolution: 2.22.3.1
>
>
> Recently, I get errors sending e-mails:
>
> "Error while performing operation. DATA command failed: Message refused"
>
> I've changed my default mail ser
Hi all.
Thanks to help from Patrick and a few others, I have a new version of my
makefile to build Evolution from source, that works with the new GIT
repositories. It currently builds the latest content of the gnome-2.28
GIT branch (I didn't try the MASTER branch since I think it's unstable
due t
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 09:04 +0200, Milan Crha wrote
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 20:58 +0100, Paul Leyland wrote:
> > How can I configure Evolution so that it *always* encrypts to the GPG
> > key of the recipients of the mail I send?
> > It's easy to see how to set it always to sign with GPG and/or SMIM
Thanks Adam for your insightful answer - I begin to understand the
problem. But the more I look into it the worse it gets. I think this is
just the tip of the iceberg.
One aspect of the problem arises - as you pointed out - from my wish to
press org data in a framework (vcard) designed for individu
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 06:55 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> ...
> I use GPG a lot, but it is actually more complicated than just "always
> encrypt". What if no key is available, should it complain or just
> silently not encrypt?
It complains to me when the recipient key is not found and asks
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 17:33 +0200, Lars Schade wrote:
> ...
> Is there any reason not to use a schema exactly matching the evo GUI
> or, alternatively, sticking to a general vcard schema and adjusting
> the evo GUI accordingly?
> ...
Hi,
as far as I can tell, there is a schema file to sup
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:10:25 -0400
Paul Smith wrote:
>
> So, this is more of a debugging aid at this point than a true stable
> replacement. I'm looking for folks who are intrepid and maybe know a
> bit about building software and makefiles, who'd like to give it a try
> and let me know what's
All this discussion of top versus bottom posting got me thinking. If
there's ALREADY a function in evolution specifically for replying to
mailing lists, couldn't we add configurations where you set:
For regular reply or reply-to-all: {Use top posting / Use bottom
posting}
For reply-to-mailing list
Am Montag, den 19.10.2009, 18:37 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
> On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 19:50 +0200, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
> > You are correct. NM is running and does not show the e100 eth0
> > interface. Thanks for pointing me into the correct direction!
>
> Glad it worked. Just note that yo
El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 02:32:59 -0400, Ben May escribió:
> All this discussion of top versus bottom posting got me thinking. If
> there's ALREADY a function in evolution specifically for replying to
> mailing lists, couldn't we add configurations where you set:
>
> For regular repl
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El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 02:57:10 -0400, Derek McDaniel escribió:
> Its much easier to top post to non-mailing list clients. You need to
> realize, most people are not computer savy and don't care about the
> "netiquette" as much as Linux users do. I wont bottom post to a client or
>
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:32 -0400, Ben May wrote:
> All this discussion of top versus bottom posting got me thinking. If
> there's ALREADY a function in evolution specifically for replying to
> mailing lists, couldn't we add configurations where you set:
>
> For regular reply or reply-to-all: {Use
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 20:48 +0200, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
> > Glad it worked. Just note that you replied directly to me and not
> the
> > list.
> >
> > poc
>
> Well, I replied directly to your mail. In your email the
> reply-to-header was not set to evolution-l...@gnome.org.
It's the same with e
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:57 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote:
> They get confused and it makes more work
> for me to try and explain it. 90% of all users I email use top post
> except
> for mailing lists.
You can minimize that confusion with proper trimming. With Evo (to get
this back on topic), trimm
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:10 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> All this would not happen if you use a realy good MUA (like 'mutt')
> and a good text editor (like 'vim'), as I do.
Matthias, I am clueless as to why you monitor and participate in this
list devoted to Evo if you use mutt and vim, and beli
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On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:32 -0400, Ben May wrote:
> All this discussion of top versus bottom posting got me thinking. If
> there's ALREADY a function in evolution specifically for replying to
> mailing lists, couldn't we add configurations where you set:
>
> For regular reply or reply-to-all: {Use
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:33 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote:
> Plus, I prefer not to trim because if I am on my BB, and I didn't read
> the first post, I can read the middle and understand the gist of
> everything.
Am I the only one getting that's getting a *really* bad feeling about
the long-term eff
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:33 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote:
> > Plus, I prefer not to trim because if I am on my BB, and I didn't read
> > the first post, I can read the middle and understand the gist of
> > everything.
>
> Am I the only one getting that's getting a *really* bad feeling about
> the
El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 03:28:53 -0400, Art Alexion escribió:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:10 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > All this would not happen if you use a realy good MUA (like 'mutt')
> > and a good text editor (like 'vim'), as I do.
>
> Matthias, I am clueless as to why yo
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> ... They responded that that wasn't
> really the idea, since the poster is meant to edit the quote (removing
> irrelevant material and inserting comments) and that's easier to do from
> the top down. Nevertheless they did agree to incl
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 21:10 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 02:57:10 -0400, Derek McDaniel escribió:
>
> > Its much easier to top post to non-mailing list clients. You need to
> > realize, most people are not computer savy and don't care about the
> > "netiquet
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 21:43 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> This, using Evo, is required because in business I have to use an
> Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP disabled. Ofc, Evo behaves better
> than OutLook and I know that I can mark text before hitting reply
> (but only one part of the old tex
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:41 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:33 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote:
> > > Plus, I prefer not to trim because if I am on my BB, and I didn't read
> > > the first post, I can read the middle and understand the gist of
> > > everything.
> >
> > Am
> The whole point of my suggestion is that I like choice, as do a lot of
> others. We'll NEVER get the bottom-posters to agree that anything other
> than bottom-posting is acceptable, and you'll NEVER get people who
> aren't aware of the argument or who are agnostic to its outcome to
> follow all
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 02:57:10PM -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote:
>
> >
> > El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 02:32:59 -0400, Ben May escribió:
> >
> > > All this discussion of top versus bottom posting got me thinking. If
> > > there's ALREADY a function in evolution specifically for replying t
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 03:28:53PM -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:10 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > All this would not happen if you use a realy good MUA (like 'mutt')
> > and a good text editor (like 'vim'), as I do.
>
> Matthias, I am clueless as to why you monitor and pa
Matthias Apitz wrote:
> Only one example: with .,$d i.e. with 5 key strokes I can remove
> all from the actual line until the end of the text. An with one
> key 'u' I get it back.
I love vim! Just wanted to make sure I clarified that first. And, I
didn't know about .,$d - very cool. I've just
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 12:46, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 21:10 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 02:57:10 -0400, Derek McDaniel
> > escribió:
> >
> > > Its much easier to top post to non-mailing list clients.
bg:
That is an astonishin
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 12:32, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I took the view that Evo encourages top-posting because it places
> the cursor at the top of the reply.
bg:
Only for the irremediably clueless and rude, or those who haven't
had the reason pointed out to them.
PO:
> They responded that
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 16:07 -0400, bgzgn...@sf.porterfield.net wrote:
> delete to end is hold Shift and Ctrl then press and
> release End then press Del. Four keys vs 5.
I can do it it with 3 -- 2, if you count combos as 1.
Shift+End,Del
Undo it, Ctrl+z.
Moreover, it works like every other text
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:43 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 03:28:53 -0400, Art Alexion
> escribió:
>
> > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:10 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > > All this would not happen if you use a realy good MUA (like
> 'mutt')
> > > and a good text
El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 04:20:51 -0400, Art Alexion escribió:
> I can do it it with 3 -- 2, if you count combos as 1.
> Shift+End,Del
>
> Undo it, Ctrl+z.
>
> Moreover, it works like every other text editor I use so I don't need
> the additional step of looking up an arcane key com
Reid Thompson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 16:07 -0400, bgzgn...@sf.porterfield.net wrote:
>> Matthias Apitz wrote:
> try dG
Wow, that's even better! Totally OT now, but I love vim more and more. :)
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El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 04:23:28 -0400, Art Alexion escribió:
> > This, using Evo, is required because in business I have to use an
> > Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP disabled.
>
> Matthais,
>
> Weren't you the one chastising me for using a work-mandated Blackberry?
Don't know
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:35 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:33 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote:
> > Plus, I prefer not to trim because if I am on my BB, and I didn't
> read
> > the first post, I can read the middle and understand the gist of
> > everything.
>
> Am I the on
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 22:34 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 04:23:28 -0400, Art Alexion escribió:
>
> > > This, using Evo, is required because in business I have to use an
> > > Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP disabled.
> >
> > Matthais,
> >
> > Weren't y
El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 04:35:56 -0400, Art Alexion escribió:
> I thought the OpenMoko/Neo phones were merely
> theoretical, because, until someone on this list mentioned one, I have
> never heard of an actual sighting.
I use an Openmoko FR as my daily and only mobile phone.
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:47 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> Personally my favorite Evo-only feature (at least I've not seen other
> mail clients who use it) is how if you select a part of the message
> then
> reply, then only that part is quoted in your reply. If you get used
> to
> this feature, then
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 13:08 -0700, bg wrote:
> > Nevertheless they did agree to include a Preference option
> > to place the cursor at the bottom.
>
> bg:
>
> Huge error in judgment, if you ask me, from a human factors
> engineering viewpoint - guaranteed to encourage the lazy and
> clueless to a
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:47 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> Personally my favorite Evo-only feature (at least I've not seen other
> mail clients who use it) is how if you select a part of the message
> then reply, then only that part is quoted in your reply.
I also love this, but it's not unique to Evo
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 16:50 -0400, Art Alexion wrote:
> Ironically, thinking back 15-18 years ago, it was the aol users we
> hated because their mailer didn't quote anything and it was hard to
> gauge context. You would get an email that just said, "yes" from
> someone you hadn't recently asked a
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:51 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 21:43 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > This, using Evo, is required because in business I have to use an
> > Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP disabled. Ofc, Evo behaves better
> > than OutLook and I know that I can ma
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