Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 01:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:48 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > Most importantly, you MUST always describe your environment > > completely: > > for Evo in particular this means what type of email are you reading? > > Local spool? POP/POP3?

Re: [Evolution] New feature for Evolution

2009-10-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I think this feature is very important, because with it the user can > > safely archive messages that are important in PDF, without the need > > to print them in paper. > > What you want is to be able to select a set of messages and

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:26 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's not as easy to use as it should be (e.g. there > doesn't seem to be a way to get a direct URL for the Evo section > rather than the whole of Gnome), but it's what we've got. Hi, I'm wondering, what do you mean with this?

Re: [Evolution] New feature for Evolution

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> I couldn´t make an account in Evolution's development site, so I will > make a proposal of a new feature for Evolution here. > I've used MS-Outlook for a long time, and a feature I think was very > useful is the possibility to convert several messages to PDF, printing > them in a PDF printer, for

Re: [Evolution] New feature for Evolution

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 21:56 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > If you mean http://bugzilla.gnome.org (which is where you need to create > > a login to report bugs and enhancement requests such as this one), what > > exactly is the prob

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > Recently (and not for the first time) I hit Reply to a posting rather > > than Reply-to-All, and send a message to a poster when I meant to send > > it to the list. > If you want the message to go to the mailing list, hit "Reply To > List" (Ctrl-L), not "Reply to All", Ditto; just tell your

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > If you want the message to go to the mailing list, hit "Reply To > > List" (Ctrl-L), not "Reply to All", that will make your reply go to the > > proper place as derived from the mail headers and makes sure the person > > you are replying to doesn't get two copies. (Another bit of netiquette >

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 20:06 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 19:56 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > There is an outstanding request (from many years ago) for > > user-configurable keyboard shortcuts, which for some reason never seem > > to get any attention from the devels.

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:14 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 20:06 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 19:56 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > There is an outstanding request (from many years ago) for > > > user-configurable keyboard shortcuts, which for some

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > The most important things to users are, > > 1) Reliablity. A program should work all of the time, it should never > > crash or hang. Nothing else matters if a program is as unstable as > > Evolution has become. > I agree. While it's true that I haven't seen many crashes in recent > versions, Ev

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Art Alexion
Sometimes, indeed, some of us just can't. Like now, when I am reading mail on my Blackberry. The BB inserts the entire uneditable quote below your response. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: ev

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Chris G
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 06:36:10AM -0400, Art Alexion wrote: > Sometimes, indeed, some of us just can't. Like now, when I am reading mail > on my Blackberry. > > The BB inserts the entire uneditable quote below your response. > What rubbish! My very similar Nokia E71 allows me to bottom post a

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Art Alexion
Netiquette, schmetiquette. Though I usually read this list on my work desktop with evolution, this blackberry MUA and others just don't support "reply to list". While I agree with your point, the reality is that you just can't expect that those features are available to people all of the time.

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 12, 2009 a las 06:36:10AM -0400, Art Alexion escribió: > Sometimes, indeed, some of us just can't. Like now, when I am reading mail > on my Blackberry. > > The BB inserts the entire uneditable quote below your response. > > -- > Art Alexion > MIS/Central Office Support >

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Derek McDaniel
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Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 12, 2009 a las 08:20:35AM -0400, Derek McDaniel escribió: > El día Monday, October 12, 2009 a las 06:36:10AM -0400, Art Alexion > escribió: > > > Sometimes, indeed, some of us just can't. Like now, when I am reading > mail on my Blackberry. > > > > The BB inserts the entir

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 20

2009-10-12 Thread B. Joshua Rosen
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 22:40 -0600, Tim McConnell wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 03:57 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org > wrote: > > > Matthew and the other developers, > > > > I think it's a terrible mistake to be adding any new features to > > Evolution until the bugs have been fixe

Re: [Evolution] New feature for Evolution

2009-10-12 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 01:08 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > If you find bugs in Evolution on a Red Hat distribution such as Fedora, > you can file bugs there if you like and presumably they will be > refiled/forwarded to the Gnome bugzilla if appropriate (i.e., if they > are not specific to Fedora). Or

Re: [Evolution] Import address book

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> I am using Evolution 2.12.3.Here I want to import my yahoo address > book which is in csv format.Please help me to do it. If you can do a vCard export in the past I've found that often is easier to deal with and preserves more information. But, YMMV, of course.

Re: [Evolution] names change using LDAP

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:52 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 20:46 +0200, Lars Schade wrote: > > To illustrate the issue I start with a local addressbook and add a new > > contact using the evolution GUI say for the Berlin Office of a company > > called "The Big Wheel", and

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 04:39 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 01:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:48 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > > Most importantly, you MUST always describe your environment > > > completely: > > > for Evo in particular this means wh

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 11:11 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:26 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > It's not as easy to use as it should be (e.g. there > > doesn't seem to be a way to get a direct URL for the Evo section > > rather than the whole of Gnome), but it's what we've

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 06:46 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: > Netiquette, schmetiquette. Though I usually read this list on my work > desktop with evolution, this blackberry MUA and others just don't > support "reply to list". While I agree with your point, the reality is > that you just can't expect th

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 14:16 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > If this is really not configurable, you're using a buggy and wrong > MTA. I think you mean MUA here. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/l

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 20

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Please don't reply to digests. See my recent post on this (which should be easy to find given that you're reading a digest). poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 10:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I mean when I tell me to file a BZ report for some Evo problem, I have > to give them the general Gnome BZ URL and hope they can find the right > page. There isn't a specific URL for filing a new Evo bug. This one seems to work for me

Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> If this is really not configurable, you're using a buggy and wrong MTA. > I have noticed this on my BB as well and I haven't looked into the > configuration to see but I make it a personal note not to reply to lists on > my BB for this reason. I use SnapperMail on a Palm OS device, it seems to

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 06:16 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > The most important things to users are, > > > 1) Reliablity. A program should work all of the time, it should never > > > crash or hang. Nothing else matters if a program is as unstable as > > > Evolution has become. > > I agree. W

Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 16:44 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 10:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I mean when I tell me to file a BZ report for some Evo problem, I have > > to give them the general Gnome BZ URL and hope they can find the right > > page. There isn't a specific

[Evolution] Feature like Webmail (wish)

2009-10-12 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Hello everybody! I would like to ask, Why Evolution mail doesn't have check boxes like in webmail (yahoo, i.e.)? To select many mails at once and do things with them. I find it useful when I use it in webmail. Anyboody else? Regards Sylvia PD: Sorry if my english isn't good, I'm a spanish

Re: [Evolution] Feature like Webmail (wish)

2009-10-12 Thread Xavier Bestel
Hi Sylvia, On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 13:53 -0200, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > > Hello everybody! > I would like to ask, Why Evolution mail doesn't have check boxes > like in webmail (yahoo, i.e.)? To select many mails at once and do > things with them. I find it useful when I use it in webmail. > A

Re: [Evolution] Feature like Webmail (wish)

2009-10-12 Thread Ben May
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 13:53 -0200, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > > Hello everybody! > I would like to ask, Why Evolution mail doesn't have check boxes > like in webmail (yahoo, i.e.)? To select many mails at once and do > things with them. I find it useful when I use it in webmail. > Anyboody el

Re: [Evolution] Feature like Webmail (wish)

2009-10-12 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
El lun, 12-10-2009 a las 18:05 +0200, Xavier Bestel escribió: > Hi Sylvia, > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 13:53 -0200, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > > > > Hello everybody! > > I would like to ask, Why Evolution mail doesn't have check boxes > > like in webmail (yahoo, i.e.)? To select many mails at

Re: [Evolution] Feature like Webmail (wish)

2009-10-12 Thread Robert Seward
Hello Benjamin, On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:09 -0400, Ben May wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 13:53 -0200, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > > > > Hello everybody! > > I would like to ask, Why Evolution mail doesn't have check boxes > > like in webmail (yahoo, i.e.)? To select many mails at once and do

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > recommend the OP to take a look at > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570438 since it's an > LDAP-related problem I reported in February which Srini gave m

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Ben May
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:47 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > > recommend the OP to take a look at > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570438 since it

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:50 -0400, Ben May wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:47 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > > > recommend the OP to take a look at >

Re: [Evolution] Feature like Webmail (wish)

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:23 -0400, Robert Seward wrote: > > You can hold down control and click on individual emails or hold > down > > shift to select a whole series of emails if you want to perform bulk > > operations. This is a pretty standard workflow in almost all modern > > operating systems/

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:47 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > > recommend the OP to take a look at > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570438 since it's

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 17:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I've seen occasional hangs with 2.26.3 Admittedly I am only using 2.26.1 (with a couple of patches from subsequent releases) but that's because nothing in any of the bugs that I have open indicate that a newer version will cure mai

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 16:00 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Description: > Description of problem: > Several times a day evolution freezes, doesn't respond to input or > refresh its window. Generally, if I click on the window decoration to > delete the w

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> "Devels" know about the bugs I am reporting. I really don't think lack > of bug reporting is the issue here. What appears (granted, from the > outside, so I only have one view) to be at issue here -- and Evolution > is not really any different than most other projects -- is that the > attractio

Re: [Evolution] Feature like Webmail (wish)

2009-10-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> I would like to ask, Why Evolution mail doesn't have check boxes > like in webmail (yahoo, i.e.)? To select many mails at once and do > things with them. I find it useful when I use it in webmail. > Anyboody else? Ctrl-Click ___ Evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:52 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:47 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > > > recommend the OP to take a loo

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 15:02 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > These types of problems almost always require a stack trace of the > hung-up process. I have a neat little script which I use to get stack > traces: Thanks. Evolution has just hung, and I have put the script to use. jon

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 15:02 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 16:00 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > > Description: > > Description of problem: > > Several times a day evolution freezes, doesn't respond to > input or > > refresh its window.

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 15:49 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 15:02 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 16:00 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > > > > Description: > > > Description of problem: > > > Several times a day evoluti

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 16:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Actually, I'm not familiar with apport. Is this an Ubuntu thing? It is. As you can see in the script though, that that is only required if you give my script a /var/crash/ file. If you really wanted to, you could simply remove th

Re: [Evolution] stability/stability

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 16:57 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 16:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Actually, I'm not familiar with apport. Is this an Ubuntu thing? > > It is. As you can see in the script though, that that is only required > if you give my script a

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Art Alexion
Must not be that "similar". Don't be so dismissive when it appears have a clue about this one. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Art Alexion
I use a Blackberry because it is the phone my employer requires me to use. We use Blackberries because we use Exchange, which incidentally, is the same reason I use Evolution. You say you would never use it? Perhaps jobs are so plentiful for you that you can pick one based on the cell phone you

Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]

2009-10-12 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 12, 2009 a las 08:30:21PM -0400, Art Alexion escribió: > I use a Blackberry because it is the phone my employer requires me to use. We > use Blackberries because we use Exchange, which incidentally, is the same > reason I use Evolution. > > You say you would never use it?