Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution [SOLVED]

2012-07-24 Thread Lailah
Good to know that! El sáb, 21-07-2012 a las 15:00 -0700, MR ZenWiz escribió: > I finally had the time (one and a half hours) and used the mbox approach. > > It turns out all the read mail was still marked as read. Nice. > > MR > ___ > evolution-li

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution [SOLVED]

2012-07-21 Thread MR ZenWiz
I finally had the time (one and a half hours) and used the mbox approach. It turns out all the read mail was still marked as read. Nice. MR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... h

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 20:58 -0300, Lailah wrote: > Patrick: > > It will not touch /home if this is a separate partition but the > default install is an "all in the same partition". So if you upgrade > and something goes wrong, or make a clean install, and you're not an > experienced user

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-03 Thread Lailah
I think is a bad habit inherited from Windows. I've seen this kind of users asking "I've reinstalled it 20 times and still doesn't works. Why?" Just an opinion Lailah El dom, 01-07-2012 a las 05:29 -0700, Adam Tauno Williams escribió: > > Matthew Barnes wrote: > >I'm still a little confus

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-03 Thread Lailah
I don't know why, but an upgrade in Ubuntu usually means to erase a lot of things you manually installed, and install a lot of things you manually erased. Usually all the process download the equivalent of a CD (600-700MBs) and break a lot of things during the upgrade. Usually I rather a clean

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-03 Thread Lailah
Patrick: It will not touch /home if this is a separate partition but the default install is an "all in the same partition". So if you upgrade and something goes wrong, or make a clean install, and you're not an experienced user you will get your /home folder nuked. Regards, Lailah

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 09:30 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 22:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 09:57 -0700, t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: > > > Evolution doesn't actually delete messages until you do some special > > > action (I can't remember what i

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 06:43 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > This isn't really Evolution specific; almost all mail clients [and > mail storage] works this way. Actually most of them don't. They keep elaborate state information in order to be able to undo deletes or moves. The mark-and-expunge m

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 09:57 -0700, t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: > On 2012-07-01 07:54, MR ZenWiz wrote: > > I did File->Import and selected my old Inbox to import. As I said, > > it imported fine, but everything was marked unread and there were > > almost twice as many messages as I remembered b

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-02 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 22:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 09:57 -0700, t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: > > Evolution doesn't actually delete messages until you do some special > > action (I can't remember what it is -- look through the menus and > > it'll be obvious). >

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 09:57 -0700, t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: > Evolution doesn't actually delete messages until you do some special > action (I can't remember what it is -- look through the menus and > it'll be obvious). Ctrl-E or Folder->Expunge. Also File->Empty Trash (no keyboard shortcut

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:41 -0500, dbrenner wrote: > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 08:19 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > I'm still a little confused as to why so many users seem to feel the > > need to backup and restore their personal data just to upgrade their > > operating system in place. Backing up

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread tim
On 2012-07-01 07:54, MR ZenWiz wrote: I did File->Import and selected my old Inbox to import. As I said, it imported fine, but everything was marked unread and there were almost twice as many messages as I remembered being in my inbox - over 3000. (I know, too many, but still only 1899 shoul

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread dbrenner
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 08:19 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > I'm still a little confused as to why so many users seem to feel the > need to backup and restore their personal data just to upgrade their > operating system in place. Backing up of course is a prudent safety > measure, but if the upgrade

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > > If Evolution finds old style config and data files then it will attempt > > to convert them into the new formats and use them. This process can be > > seen if you start Evolution from the command line. If those files are > > in the wrong place or unreadable or corrupt, then obviously Evo

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > That strikes me as odd, Ubuntu being a Debian based distro. > Me, too. > I'd love to know what's so problematic about Ubuntu upgrades. > I'm not entirely sure, but typically it has to do with how many levels of release one is upgrading. T

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 07:46 -0700, Mark wrote: > With Ubuntu, upgrades are frequently problematic and re-installs work > better. This is as documented by the Ubuntu folks. That strikes me as odd, Ubuntu being a Debian based distro. I've been typing "apt-get dist-upgrade" on my stable Debian mach

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 12:00 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: >> It seems to me that all the people who have had problems with the >> upgrade process recently have been Ubuntu users and I wonder if there is >> something they've done in the packaging o

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-30 at 19:14 -0700, MR ZenWiz wrote: >> I recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 on my home desktop, and the new >> evolution does not recognize the old configuration of my on-board >> email files. > > If Evolution finds old style config

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Mark
[Damn reply not to all...] On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 12:00 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: >> It seems to me that all the people who have had problems with the >> upgrade process recently have been Ubuntu users and I wonder if there is >> something the

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Are there actually distro installers that don't allow you to upgrade > without nuking your home directory, or do some installers not make that > option clear enough, or am I just misunderstanding the problem? Well, probably not an issue here, and probably not a mainstream user distro, but th

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Matthew Barnes wrote: >I'm still a little confused as to why so many users seem to feel the >need to backup and restore their personal data just to upgrade their >operating system in place. Backing up of course is a prudent safety >measure, but if the upgrade goes smoothly there should be no ne

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 12:00 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > It seems to me that all the people who have had problems with the > upgrade process recently have been Ubuntu users and I wonder if there is > something they've done in the packaging or configuration that is causing > problems. I'm still a lit

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-07-01 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sat, 2012-06-30 at 19:14 -0700, MR ZenWiz wrote: > I recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 on my home desktop, and the new > evolution does not recognize the old configuration of my on-board > email files. If Evolution finds old style config and data files then it will attempt to convert them into

Re: [Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-06-30 Thread MR ZenWiz
Sorry, I should have included this. I don't remember which version of evolution I had in Ubuntu 10.10, but the current one for 12.04 is 3.2.3. On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 7:14 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: > I recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 on my home desktop, and the new > evolution does not recognize the

[Evolution] Moving from evolution to evolution

2012-06-30 Thread MR ZenWiz
I recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 on my home desktop, and the new evolution does not recognize the old configuration of my on-board email files. I tried to import the mail from my old folder set (which was completely preserved, but I also have it backed up), but it only read in one folder and all