So this morning it finally works like it is supposed to. I open emails
from the system and it let's me read them. The only two that have High
CPU usage are Tripwire/Cron Daily reports and Clam reports. And they
even let the CPU return to normal once they've loaded. I'll never know
what was causing
On Thu, 2022-07-07 at 09:28 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> Both have threads related to your graphics drivers
> (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/radeonsi_dri.so), maybe that is part
> of
> the problem you face.
Great I'm screwed then, something is pointing to a firmware location
for g
On Mon, 2022-07-04 at 13:58 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> I did the commands for the backtraces like you asked, attached are
> evolution_bt.txt and wkwp_bt.txt
Hi,
I do not see anything obviously wrong in the backtraces, they look like
showing the process in an idle stat
On Mon, 2022-07-04 at 10:52 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> Evo (and/or WebKitGTK) does very weird things on your machine.
No joke there.
I did the commands for the backtraces like you asked, attached are
evolution_bt.txt and wkwp_bt.txt
[New LWP 2194809]
[New LWP 2194811]
[New LWP
On Fri, 2022-07-01 at 10:41 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> The only thing I get is a banner telling me WebKit crashed
Hi,
yes, that's what I meant.
> It's also how I used to have to exit Evolution is kill webkit
> first, otherwise Evolution would hang
Evo (and/or WebKit
On Fri, 2022-07-01 at 08:06 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> No support if you kill background processes when an app using them is
> running (evo might tell you something went wrong when you kill the
> WebProcess).
Ummm? The only thing I get is a banner telling me WebKit crashed and
t
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 10:22 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> 4. Dragged a mail from local to IMAP folder, still pegs CPU, deleted
> mail after. CPU went back to normal in IMAP folder.
Hi,
I understand from the above that the same mail behaves the same odd
both when being v
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 10:26 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 12:30 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I copied one of the cron reports into an email and
> > attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail.
>
> Hi,
> I mean
>
> Being it true, with exactly the same message, then I still do not
> understand what the WebKitGTK would have to do with it, because it's
> independent of the mail storage. That would cause high CPU usage on the
> evolution process, maybe due to some issues in the local storage, as
> had been
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 12:30 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> I copied one of the cron reports into an email and
> attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail.
Hi,
I meant to use exactly the same message, not a newly created message,
to not compare apples
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 14:16 -0500, Tim via evolution-list wrote:
> epiphany
> Failed to register: Timeout was reached
Hi,
it looks like a D-Bus problem, from the little the error message says.
I'd open a bug in your distro against epiphany asking for an assistance
to make it work/run.
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 00:39 +0200, Jarosław Rafa wrote:
> How did you create that account?
I relaunched Evolution (after cleaning out the file in Local)got the
message I posted and was done. None of those choices you stated were
even an option, or even appeared. Maybe it's because I still had gm
W dniu śro, 29.06.2022 o godzinie 17∶16 -0500, użytkownik Tim McConnell
via evolution-list napisał:
> On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 00:03 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > So you again created "local_mbox" account as "Local delivery"
> > (mbox) and not spool?
>
> I was never given a choice. It's what it def
On Thu, 2022-06-30 at 00:03 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> So you again created "local_mbox" account as "Local delivery" (mbox)
> and not
> spool?
I was never given a choice. It's what it defaulted to. That is what was
created.
And I thought if I made a copy of the file and renamed it to Old.Local
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 16:42:44 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> Well I followed the suggestion of hosing the file.
> When I re-entered Evolution I received this message:
> Evolution’s local mail format has changed.
> Evolution’s local mail format has changed from mbox to Maildir. Your
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:56 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 15:52:23 Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> pisze:
> > On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:35 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > > Your previous setting was mbox, ie. "Local delivery". You can
> > > keep
> > > that, or
> > > you ca
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 15:52:23 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:35 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > Your previous setting was mbox, ie. "Local delivery". You can keep
> > that, or
> > you can set it to spool, ie. direct use of the system mbox. It's your
> > choice
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 22:35 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Your previous setting was mbox, ie. "Local delivery". You can keep
> that, or
> you can set it to spool, ie. direct use of the system mbox. It's your
> choice. You can try which one will work better for you.
I'll try the spool setting, howev
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 15:20:07 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> ls -la /var/spool/mail/../mail
> total 8
> drwxrwsr-x 2 root mail 4096 Jun 29 13:18 .
> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 May 19 18:51 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root mail0 Jun 24 12:43 root
> -rw-rw 1 tmick mail0 Jun 29
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 21:45 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 13:44:09 Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> pisze:
> > 1. I don't know Evolution doesn't show the size. Running `mail`,
> > `mailx` or `mutt` doesn't show any mail messages.
>
> This can mean you have set Evolution a
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 13:44:09 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> 1. I don't know Evolution doesn't show the size. Running `mail`,
> `mailx` or `mutt` doesn't show any mail messages.
This can mean you have set Evolution account to "Local delivery", so it
moves all mail from the system mbo
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 13:34 -0500, Greg Oliver via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 12:43 PM Jaroslaw Rafa
> wrote:
> > Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 12:30:10 Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> > pisze:
> > > Unlikely but true, I copied one of the cron reports into an email
> > > and
> >
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 19:43 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > There are still a few *very basic* facts we don't know.
> > 1) How large (average) are the messages that you have problem >
> > displaying?
> > 2) What type of local mail account does your Evolution use? "Local
> > > delivery"
> > (ie. *co
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 12:43 PM Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 12:30:10 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> > Unlikely but true, I copied one of the cron reports into an email and
> > attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail.
> > My CPU stayed under 35%
Dnia 29.06.2022 o godz. 12:30:10 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> Unlikely but true, I copied one of the cron reports into an email and
> attached the original one sent and sent it to myself in gmail.
> My CPU stayed under 35% usage when it was opened in gmail (IMAP) both
> the body and a
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 10:03 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 13:28 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > It's just when I check Local mail the CPU goes nuts.
>
> Hi,
> that sounds unlikely. Do you mean that if you copy exactly the same
> m
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 10:13 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
> >
> > If I read it correctly, then the most time is spent in
> > cairo_scaled_font_glyph_e(), which can be when WebKit renders the
> > content.
> >
> Tim, what size fonts do you have defined for rendering the content? I
> have, in the past
>
> If I read it correctly, then the most time is spent in
> cairo_scaled_font_glyph_e(), which can be when WebKit renders the
> content.
>
Tim, what size fonts do you have defined for rendering the content? I
have, in the past, had some very strange results with specific font
sizes - like 12pt
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 13:28 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> It's just when I check Local mail the CPU goes nuts.
Hi,
that sounds unlikely. Do you mean that if you copy exactly the same
message from the local storage to the IMAP account and view it in the
IMAP account, the
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 18:25 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 11:16 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > And I got
> > WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution
> >
> > (evolution:3466545): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 11:07:41.78
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 11:16 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> And I got
> WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution
>
> (evolution:3466545): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 11:07:41.789: Your
> application did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction.
> Consider
>
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 17:04 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Sorry if this is too obvious, but did you forget to remove the
> \+newline? That command should be:
>
> WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 evolution
>
> poc
And I got
WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_F
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 10:56 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> > $ WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 WEBKIT_FORCE_SANDBOX=0 \
> > evolution
> >
> Where do I put that? I tried it from a terminal and it caused a
> traceback from the command not found program :-(
Sorry if this
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 10:30 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 11:13 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Well I run dkpg -l | grep WebKitGTK and get libjavascriptcoregtk-
> > 4.1-
> > 0:amd64, I'm not sure if that's what your after.
>
>
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:47 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 20:05 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > Does your local mail system (I mean MTA, not Evolution) use mbox or
> > Maildir?
> No idea,it's what ever Debian defaults to.
Exactly!
> I've never messed with
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 11:13 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> Well I run dkpg -l | grep WebKitGTK and get libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1-
> 0:amd64, I'm not sure if that's what your after.
Hi,
I do not have a Debian machine handy. I think the WebKitGTK is called
libwebkit2gtk
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 20:05 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Does your local mail system (I mean MTA, not Evolution) use mbox or
> Maildir?
No idea,it's what ever Debian defaults to. I've never messed with those
settings because I have never needed to. The local mail used to work
just fine, somewhere
Dnia 27.06.2022 o godz. 12:46:02 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> If I go into Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts it shows On this
> computer as maildir and Local Host as mbox. I can't see where Evolution
> is pointing to for Maildir because the "Edit" button is grayed out. the
When you
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 18:18 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> How does the mail get into the "On this computer" Inbox? The reason
> I
> ask is because normally local mail gets put into a system spool file
> (i.e. /var/spool/mail/) and it is read from there. The Evolution
> "On this Computer" mail is
>
> Are you viewing them on the machine or via IMAP?
>
ALL my mail is IMAP - it makes using multiple machines much saner.
> I'm in "On This
> Computer -> Inbox" I'm on Debian Testing(Bookworm).
>
How does the mail get into the "On this computer" Inbox? The reason I
ask is because normally l
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 08:43 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> This is suspicious. In that case I'd blame WebKitGTK process doing
> some
> odd thing while starting itself. I suppose you get a similar behavior
> with another WebKitGTK application, like Epiphany, when opening an
> empty ta
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:29 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> I've experienced the issue here and there with smaller messages with
> lots of v-e-r-y long uwrappable lines.
Hi,
this is true, the message conversion is quite inefficient with long
lines.
Bye,
Milan
_
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:35 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> If I open the local emails in a new window (double click
> mostly) It will spawn a new PID that splits the CPU usage evenly
> among the PIDs (yes still WebKItWebProcess) per window.
Hi,
that's a new behavior of th
On Sun, 2022-06-26 at 12:37 -0500, tmcconnell...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 23:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> >
> > > I was clicking group reply and not using the drop down next to it,
> > > Apparently it's not the same thing.
> >
> > Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences ->
>
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 23:13:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
>On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 22:43 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
>> Dnia 25.06.2022 o godz. 11:37:39 Pete Biggs pisze:
>> > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on
>> > replies means I only get the direct copy of your message t
> I was clicking group reply and not using the drop down next to it,
> Apparently it's not the same thing.
Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences ->
Group reply goes only to mailing list if possible.
Personally I also enable "Ignore Reply-to for mailing lists"
> I looked at Milan'
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 22:43 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Dnia 25.06.2022 o godz. 11:37:39 Pete Biggs pisze:
> > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on replies
> > means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list
> > version.
>
> Does your MTA do some k
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:35 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> I was clicking group reply and not using the drop down next to it,
> Apparently it's not the same thing.
Clicking Group Reply will try to use Reply to List if possible, and
fall back to Reply to All otherwise, which is t
Dnia 25.06.2022 o godz. 11:37:39 Pete Biggs pisze:
> Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on replies
> means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list
> version.
Does your MTA do some kind of "message de-duplication"?
In my case, when someone replies bo
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 12:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:37 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on
> > replies
> > means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the
> > list
> > version. This means I
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:37 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on
> replies
> means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list
> version. This means I don't get the list headers on the message so it
> breaks my ability to repl
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 22:28 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:18 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 11:33:36 Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> > pisze:
> > > So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text??? So when I
> > > reply
> > > to this mail list/
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 11:33 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> > The place you read the message content is covered by the WebKitGTK.
> > Everything is converted into HTML for viewing (and writing).
> > How do I get it to stop hogging my CPU?
> > You can try shorter logs/reports, but t
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 11:37 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on
> replies
> means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list
> version. This means I don't get the list headers on the message so it
> breaks my ability to repl
Please could you reply just to the list (Ctrl-L) - CC'ing me on replies
means I only get the direct copy of your message to me, not the list
version. This means I don't get the list headers on the message so it
breaks my ability to reply to the list and keep the list threading.
On Fri, 2022-06-24
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 00:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> The OP has asked a similar question in the past and he was given
> various troubleshooting procedures to try. Specifically Milan told
> him
> how to use gdb to get a back trace to see where the issue is.
I missed the email where Milan sent tha
On Sat, 2022-06-25 at 00:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:39 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 22:28:30 Pete Biggs pisze:
> > > > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying local
> > > > mail, even with very big messages.
>
> >
>
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:39 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 22:28:30 Pete Biggs pisze:
> > > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying local
> > > mail, even with very big messages.
> >
> > And I've never seen Evolution do it unless it's a multi-megaby
Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 22:28:30 Pete Biggs pisze:
> > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying local
> > mail, even with very big messages.
>
> And I've never seen Evolution do it unless it's a multi-megabyte
> message.
Butt mutt does not try to convert plain text to HTM
> So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text???
>
Yes. Those pretty little hyperlinked URLs in plain text messages that
you can click on don't appear by magic. HTML is just a markup language
and there happens to be lots of very mature systems for displaying HTML
so why not leverage exis
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:18 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 11:33:36 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> > So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text??? So when I reply
> > to this mail list/ email in plain text it goes to HTML first (and yes I
> > meant viewing)
Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 11:33:36 Tim McConnell via evolution-list pisze:
> So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text??? So when I reply
> to this mail list/ email in plain text it goes to HTML first (and yes I
> meant viewing)? So if I view the messages via mutt (or similar) it
> shouldn't
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 11:33 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> Apologies I assumed the list would think Debian's bugzilla, I thought
> I
> mentioned I was on Debian Bookworm (testing) And I forgot your for
> all
> distros, not just mine.
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cg
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 10:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 14:37 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > It will use 35-95% of the CPU when I'm checking my local mail only.
>
> Hi,
> it's not when checking the mail, but when viewing it. I s
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 14:37 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list
wrote:
> It will use 35-95% of the CPU when I'm checking my local mail only.
Hi,
it's not when checking the mail, but when viewing it. I suppose the
message is large, thus it takes it to some time to pre/post-process it.
T
Hi List,
I have a curious problem, when I check my mail "on this computer" (aka
local mail) which contains things like Cron job reports, apticron
notices, etc. Or more simply put text based email sent by the system. I
have a process called WebKitWebProcess that pegs my CPU. It will use 35
-95% of
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