Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-06 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 05.06.2012, 12:39 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: > Maybe, but this list is also the most direct feedback channel the > developers have from Evolution users. Complaints here do get noticed. > You do have influence. Squeaky wheels and all... Thanks Matthew, I hoped to hear that we

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-05 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 22:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 23:26 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > > Aren't we doing usability testing HERE nearly every day ??? > > No. List / forum traffic isn't statistically meaningful and contains > powerful bias. Maybe, but this list is

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-05 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Sonntag, den 03.06.2012, 22:20 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: > On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 23:26 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 31.05.2012, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: > > > On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > > > I never understood the need to rem

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-03 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 23:26 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 31.05.2012, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: > > On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > > I never understood the need to remove those options, I also noticed > > > multiple users asking for them, especi

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-03 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Donnerstag, den 31.05.2012, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: > On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > I never understood the need to remove those options, I also noticed > > multiple users asking for them, especially because those all are common > > options, which each sane

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 08:20 -0300, Lailah wrote: > Evolution used to have a configuration for this thing; all mail > clients > I've used has the same configuration ("Mark read messages: Option 1, > 2, > 3"). I don't think that this kind of settings have any strange or > difficult. [OT: Once aga

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-02 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 08:32 -0300, Lailah wrote: > And what about a little button saying "Advanced options". Combining with Edit→Plugins→Configuration a user would have three places to search in order to change a setting. The user might not even know all of them. Discussing what is Advanced and

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-02 Thread Lailah
Evolution used to have a configuration for this thing; all mail clients I've used has the same configuration ("Mark read messages: Option 1, 2, 3"). I don't think that this kind of settings have any strange or difficult. Is my user opinion El jue, 31-05-2012 a las 08:39 +0100, Pete Biggs es

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-06-02 Thread Lailah
And what about a little button saying "Advanced options". If the user wants something more, press the button and the complete game of settings appears. If not, it remains hidden so it will not bother to anybody. What do you think, boys? Regards, Lailah El jue, 31-05-2012 a las 08:54 -0400,

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 18:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > So if we go back to Patrick's original question: how do you set the > automatic mark as read time? Where in the documentation would you find > that? I've looked, but can't see it mentioned anywhere. Good point. It is currently not documented

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 18:48 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 16:00 +, Reid Thompson wrote: > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/ > > > which doesn't appear to contain any information about the the "hidden" > > settings > > A "Hidden Settings" section does not

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > I never understood the need to remove those options, I also noticed > multiple users asking for them, especially because those all are common > options, which each sane mail client should have accessible in UI, not > through "registry" (would y

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 16:00 +, Reid Thompson wrote: > > http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/ > which doesn't appear to contain any information about the the "hidden" > settings A "Hidden Settings" section does not make sense to me. Users normally want to know "How can I do this and

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Reid Thompson
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 17:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 20:54 +1200, v.spagnolo wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > > I never understood the need to remove those options > > I agree. > > How am I to learn about something when its' very existe

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 20:54 +1200, v.spagnolo wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > I never understood the need to remove those options > I agree. > How am I to learn about something when its' very existence is > concealed? By reading the user documentation: http://lib

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 08:07 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: > Without having seen the newest Release, I suppose, "Purging the more > esoteric" also inherits something here called "Magische > Leertaste" (magic spacebar in English ?). > Even if it disappears now: Can anyone tell, what it does or has done

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Graham Murray
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 08:41 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:13 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for remov

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:13 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > Perhaps a comment along the lines of "For other options use 'gsettings' > > from the Shell" would at least give a hi

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 08:39 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:13 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for remov

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Dan Vratil
On Thursday 31 of May 2012 09:41:11 Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:13 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for remo

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread v.spagnolo
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > I never understood the need to remove those options I agree. How am I to learn about something when its' very existence is concealed? V ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To ch

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:13 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for removing this from the UI? > > > > Purging the more esoteric and

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-31 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:13 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for removing this from the UI? > > > > Purging the more esoteric and

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Mittwoch, den 30.05.2012, 22:13 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for removing this from the UI? > > Purging the more esoteric and seldom used options to try and get the > window size under cont

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:13 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for removing this from the UI? > > Purging the more esoteric and seldom used options to try and get the > window size under control. The

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-30 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > OK, thanks. Is there some rationale for removing this from the UI? Purging the more esoteric and seldom used options to try and get the window size under control. There's more to be done but it's a start. Matthew Barnes ___

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 20:32 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 19:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I've just installed Evo 3.4.1 on Fedora 17 and seem to be having a > > Senior Moment. There used to be a setting to adjust the time after which > > Evo would automatically ma

Re: [Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-30 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 19:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I've just installed Evo 3.4.1 on Fedora 17 and seem to be having a > Senior Moment. There used to be a setting to adjust the time after which > Evo would automatically mark an opened message as read, but I can't seem > to find it now.

[Evolution] Avoiding automatic marking as read

2012-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Sorry for the obscure subject line but I couldn't think of a better one. I've just installed Evo 3.4.1 on Fedora 17 and seem to be having a Senior Moment. There used to be a setting to adjust the time after which Evo would automatically mark an opened message as read, but I can't seem to find it n