Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 16:57 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > I simply urge people to not take these "it's horrible" statements, > without any reference to actual problems that anyone has ever had in > real life and very little understanding of what exactly a flatpak or > snap is, how they are built, or h

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Paul Smith
It's clear that no one has any actual pros/cons that they want to discuss in a serious way. So, this is my last message on this topic. I simply urge people to not take these "it's horrible" statements, without any reference to actual problems that anyone has ever had in real life and very little

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 13:49 -0600, Greg Oliver via evolution-list wrote: > Do you really think Canonical understands linux?  They have zero > developers in the kernel development process, plus Debian only has (2) > that I know of..  So, please do not use distros as live bait - it is > inappropriate

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Greg Oliver via evolution-list
On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 9:58 AM Paul Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 09:33 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I know this is getting way of topic, but this is primarily why I shy > > away from Flatpak. You download a blob of "stuff" and you have no > > real idea what is in that - it could be some

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 17:07 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > the only tricky part is to run it in the flatpak sandbox. It's easy > once you know how to do it: > >   $ flatpak run --command=sh org.gnome.Evolution Yes, I am familiar with this since I used it to help you debug the issue

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 10:58 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > I do have many problems with the UI changes introduced in Evo 3.46: > putting buttons for important things on the title bar makes NO sense. > But, that's not an issue with the flatpak. Hi, you can also use: gsettings set org.gnome.

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 09:33 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > I know this is getting way of topic, but this is primarily why I shy > away from Flatpak. You download a blob of "stuff" and you have no > real idea what is in that - it could be some ancient bug-ridden > library that the dev has decided to use

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 10:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > You download a blob of "stuff" and you have no real > idea what is in that Hi, some people may even not care of it, they just want to have things done. ;) For what it's worth: $ flatpak run --command=sh org.gnome.Evolution cat

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designedto go?

2022-11-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 19:47 +0800, Mike Lieberman wrote: > I honestly do not understand about the > comment, "Milan has given you all the information you need to > clean  up your configuration to start anew." Hi, you managed to split your thread into two (or whatever caused it to be split)

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designedto go?

2022-11-08 Thread Mike Lieberman
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 12:45 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 20:01 +0800, Mike Lieberman wrote: > > I used installed the 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org) version. My OS didn't > > like > > it but it did install and the problem I was having is gone. This > > version is working. > > I p

Re: [Evolution] Weird menu bar above menu bar

2022-11-08 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 10:07 +, Krauß, Peter (SCC) via evolution- list wrote: > Hello folks, > > since my last system update I have a weird menu bar above the actual > menu bar (actual menu bar is the one, that has the drop down menus > "File", "Edit", "View" etc.; the weird menu bar is buttons

Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V3

2022-11-08 Thread ja
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 18:11 -0600, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 08:08 +0800, Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list > wrote: > > Thanks Patrick, > > Yes I could not agree more. > > We need to decide on the new list as the priority. > > > > Lets stay on subject. > > ___

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designedto go?

2022-11-08 Thread Pete Biggs
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 20:01 +0800, Mike Lieberman wrote: > I used installed the 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org) version. My OS didn't like > it but it did install and the problem I was having is gone. This > version is working. I presume you understand that Flatpak versions run in a sanboxed environmen

Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?

2022-11-08 Thread Pete Biggs
> > They basically provide a fully self-contained package containing a tool > (like Evolution) and ALL of its dependencies, as a single bundle. > These dependencies are not installed separately on your system: they > are not visible to any other program "outside" the flatpak. And the > Evolution