Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread aguador
El 2015-12-03 02:22, dave boland escribió: Paul, I have used gmail, but I'm bothered by their privacy and their desire to sell personal information. Same for Yahoo. Dave, On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 04:02 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 15:19 -0500, dave boland wrote: > My isp has

Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes on startup

2015-12-02 Thread David Elwell
Thanks again for checking this out. Looks like it's time to move up to Ubuntu 15.10. On 12/02/2015 07:07 AM, Milan Crha wrote: On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 22:41 -0500, David Elwell wrote: Thanks for the guidance, Milan. Here's bt.txt: Hi, if I read the backtrace properly, then the crash ha

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
Paul, I have used gmail, but I'm bothered by their privacy and their desire to sell personal information. Same for Yahoo. Dave, On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 04:02 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 15:19 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > My isp has a 90 day limit that I did not know about. T

Re: [Evolution] HTML email always using fixed-width fonts?

2015-12-02 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 09:11 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 14:56 +0100, Tomas Popela wrote: > > It's exactly as you said. It was already fixed for Evolution 3.18., > > see > > [0]. > > > > [0] - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753702 > > OK thanks I'll file a Launchpa

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
> > I guess I'm not really sure what your "fat, dumb and happy" mode was > > before, and how Evolution, or a new version of Evolution?, has changed > > things so you're not in that mode any longer...? > > I did not pay attention to archiving because I thought everything was > copied to my hard dr

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 22:18 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > ... Oops, discard the previous message, I see you've sorted it out already. Different thread => different issue => my fault not looking ahead. Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 09:49 -0500, dave boland wrote: > As per Properties for my e-mail account, it is "Sever Type: IMPA+"  I > could not find an option for for download and delete, so I don't > know. > In the past my e-mail was downloaded and stayed in Evolution > forever.  I > would then go throu

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 15:19 -0500, dave boland wrote: > My isp has a 90 day limit that I did not know about. The only > alternative is tw, and I doubt that the will be a big improvement. Ugh. I'm not sure why you're restricted to only those two alternatives, but that's a bummer. You could try g

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread James Lay
On 2015-12-02 13:19, dave boland wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 03:01 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 14:45 -0500, dave boland wrote: > This may be what I do, but for now (and rest of a very busy December), > I'm looking for an easier way. I guess that may be a monthly combing > my

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 03:01 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 14:45 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > This may be what I do, but for now (and rest of a very busy December), > > I'm looking for an easier way. I guess that may be a monthly combing > > my email to see what needs to be sa

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 14:45 -0500, dave boland wrote: > This may be what I do, but for now (and rest of a very busy December), > I'm looking for an easier way. I guess that may be a monthly combing > my email to see what needs to be saved, then copying it to a folder. > I admit, I have been fat

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
This may be what I do, but for now (and rest of a very busy December), I'm looking for an easier way. I guess that may be a monthly combing my email to see what needs to be saved, then copying it to a folder. I admit, I have been fat, dumb and happy for too long, and should have been doing this a

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Reid Thompson
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 14:03 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 13:48 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > Thanks for the insight.  There is an IMAP option in Evolution to > > synchronize the email, but I have not found much info about this > > option. > >  Does anyone know what it does and t

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 13:48 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Thanks for the insight. There is an IMAP option in Evolution to > synchronize the email, but I have not found much info about this > option. > Does anyone know what it does and the pros/cons? > > My objective is to have a local copy (on my

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
Paul, Thanks for the insight. There is an IMAP option in Evolution to synchronize the email, but I have not found much info about this option. Does anyone know what it does and the pros/cons? My objective is to have a local copy (on my computer or email server) of all sent and received email, w

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 13:21 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Am I correct in thinking POP did download the messages for local > storage? Correct. This is the major difference between POP and IMAP. POP is a simple delivery facility for email: when you access it it downloads the entire mailbox from the

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Reid Thompson
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 13:21 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Am I correct in thinking POP did download the messages for local > storage? > > Dave, > yes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, vis

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 12:36 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > Oh my!!  I just used Web Mail and see that my ISP has been purging the > > emails, but they are going to try to get them back. > > As I said, "purging" as in expunging deleted emails,

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 12:36 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Oh my!!  I just used Web Mail and see that my ISP has been purging the > emails, but they are going to try to get them back. As I said, "purging" as in expunging deleted emails, or "purging" as in arbitrarily removing emails older than a cert

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
Oh my!! I just used Web Mail and see that my ISP has been purging the emails, but they are going to try to get them back. I was always under the impression that the full email was downloaded to my computer, but it looks like that is not the case currently. So I could benefit from some education

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
> > The emails are located in a number of locations, but some are in my > inbox of an old account no longer used, most are in Sent.  The search > reveals that nothing in my current Inbox os older than early September.  Can you access your mail on the server using some other method - such as webm

Re: [Evolution] Again: Left-click in text field grabs window to move

2015-12-02 Thread Martin Dietze
On 2 December 2015 at 15:21, Martin Dietze wrote: > Since the original thread was not really closed with a resolution to > the problem, I reopen this here: has anyone found out why this happens > and what can be done to stop this behaviour? Replying to myself: It must have to do with my combinati

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
Reid, The emails are located in a number of locations, but some are in my inbox of an old account no longer used, most are in Sent. The search reveals that nothing in my current Inbox os older than early September. It looks like they have been automatically purged. Not good! Dave, On Wed, Dec

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 10:19 -0500, dave boland wrote: > I had an idea a little while ago - search for older messages to see if > they were still there.  I did an advanced search for anything before > 2014.  I kept getting a message saying (essentially) nothing found.  > However in the Unmatched fol

Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread Reid Thompson
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 10:19 -0500, dave boland wrote: > I had an idea a little while ago - search for older messages to see if > they were still there.  I did an advanced search for anything before > 2014.  I kept getting a message saying (essentially) nothing found. > However in the Unmatched fol

[Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
I had an idea a little while ago - search for older messages to see if they were still there. I did an advanced search for anything before 2014. I kept getting a message saying (essentially) nothing found. However in the Unmatched folder, there are all the old messages (emails). So they are the

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 09:44 AM, Reid Thompson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 09:32 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > Andre, > > > > I did all of that, and I see that today I lost a few more e-mails.  This > > has to stop! > > > > Dave, > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 04:17 AM, Andre Klapper wrot

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
Milan, As per Properties for my e-mail account, it is "Sever Type: IMPA+" I could not find an option for for download and delete, so I don't know. In the past my e-mail was downloaded and stayed in Evolution forever. I would then go through the email and delete the junk, then archive the rest in

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
> > I cannot reproduce it, I tried to delete my previous message in this > thread, which moved me to your reply, being done in the same time > (parent of this message). I had both messages downloaded locally > already. What I see is thit: > > a) message is selected, scrolled a bit lower > b) pre

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread Reid Thompson
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 09:32 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Andre, > > I did all of that, and I see that today I lost a few more e-mails.  This > has to stop! > > Dave, > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 04:17 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 14:25 -0500, dave boland wrote: >

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 14:25 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 (Evolution 3.16.5), the mail in the > list disappears after about 3 months.  I was looking for a > Preferences setting or anything in the documentation, but have found > nothing.  I really need my e-mail back,

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 14:08 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > I think we are talking at cross purposes here. The message displayed > is the correct one, but after deleting a message the next one shown > in the preview window (or viewing pane) is opened so that the > last/middle few lines are displayed rat

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread dave boland
Andre, I did all of that, and I see that today I lost a few more e-mails. This has to stop! Dave, On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, at 04:17 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 14:25 -0500, dave boland wrote: > > Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 (Evolution 3.16.5), the mail in the > >

[Evolution] Again: Left-click in text field grabs window to move

2015-12-02 Thread Martin Dietze
I have stumbled across this thread from March 2015: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2015-March/msg00126.html In its last entry, Ángel González wrote that he could not reproduce this behaviour. I am working on an OracleLinux 7.1 system (another RHEL clone) on which I got GNOME upgra

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
> Once the messages are downloaded, they are always returned from the > local cache. It's in > ~/.cache/evolution/mail//folders/... > You can safely delete the corresponding message in the local cache, > when evolution is running, and then select another message and back the > other, to see it is

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 14:48 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > It worth investigate. Hi, I just went through  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758786 which looks like the thing you see. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 12:40 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > I already have EDS 3.18.2-2 installed after Evolution was segfaulting > on moving messages. Hi, aha, in that case, if that is not anything in the local cache after the previous issue, then it is something new and unrelated to the known

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
> > One is about IMAPx doing incorrect unref of a message info, when > messages are moved/copied between folders of the same account, which > leads to use-after-free, which can strike back in various ways. One of > them can be that the view is showing incorrect message (that's a > different issue

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 11:29 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > Is it possible to make it so the logic says "if automatically moved > to next message, display message from line 1". > > And then, to make matters worse, in 3.18.x on F23, Evolution > occasionally stops responding to the key for deleting > mes

Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 09:49 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > The labels only apply to the messages on a specific machine - i.e. > they are held in a local database; the flag, which is an IMAP > property, will be present on whatever client is using the IMAP store. Hi, this is true only if the ser

Re: [Evolution] Displaying TIFF images

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 12:54 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 16:01 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Hmm, OK. Unfortunately it seems that when a Mac user cut and pastes > > an image into an email, it uses TIFF - so the usual method of > > telling > > someone to use another format doesn't

Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes on startup

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 22:41 -0500, David Elwell wrote: > Thanks for the guidance, Milan. Here's bt.txt: Hi, if I read the backtrace properly, then the crash happens when the messages list was going to draw the first column of it, an image of an envelope, the one for a regular, new, replied

Re: [Evolution] Displaying TIFF images

2015-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 16:01 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > Hmm, OK. Unfortunately it seems that when a Mac user cut and pastes > an image into an email, it uses TIFF - so the usual method of telling > someone to use another format doesn't really work. Hi, I didn't suggest anything like that. I

[Evolution] Evolution 3.18.x and the delete key

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
This is something that has been bugging me for the last couple of releases. I have long lists of emails in a folder that I need to go through and delete once I've scanned through the contents. (They are daily log reports from a couple of hundred machines.) I normally go through the list pressing

Re: [Evolution] Need config help on Evolution email client

2015-12-02 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 01:24 -0500, Mark Foley wrote: > I've just installed Evolution 3.10.4 on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS with Cinnamon > desktop. So far I like it, but I'm having some problems. As others have said, it appears that 3.10 on Ubuntu 14.04 is broken in various ways (it's to do with the Ubuntu

Re: [Evolution] Mail in Evolution disappearing

2015-12-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 14:25 -0500, dave boland wrote: > Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 (Evolution 3.16.5), the mail in the > list disappears after about 3 months.  I was looking for a > Preferences > setting or anything in the documentation, but have found nothing.  I > really need my e-mail