David Woodhouse, don't mix up kernel development mailing lists with
averaged user and averaged developer mailing lists.
Mailing lists are mainly for subscribers. Interested people usually
subscribe and people who aren't subscribed usually don't want to
receive mails related to a list they don't jo
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 19:26 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
> Thank you all, for the fire-hose of information concerning mailing-list
> netiquettes and good practice methods. I, being a *newbie* to
> "mailing-lists", not *nix in general, now have full understanding to the
> pros and cons in regard to
Thank you all, for the fire-hose of information concerning mailing-list
netiquettes and good practice methods. I, being a *newbie* to
"mailing-lists", not *nix in general, now have full understanding to the
pros and cons in regard to different style message replies. From what I
can conclude, there
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 15:47 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 14:07 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Not that it particularly matters, my server-side filters already filter
> > the Evolution list on To: and Cc: headers because I couldn't rely on the
> > list headers. I have a choice
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 12:44 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 00:48 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > Btw, when replying to a message in Evolution try selecting just the
> > part
> > of the email you want to reply to, then hit reply while it's selected.
> > I
> > think that s
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 14:07 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Not that it particularly matters, my server-side filters already filter
> the Evolution list on To: and Cc: headers because I couldn't rely on the
> list headers. I have a choice you see - either I get things in my Inbox,
> which is full enough
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:32:23 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
>There, is that a reasonable summary?
No, because there are no clear rules and several solutions to handle
things, but without rules different MUAs, different mailing list
settings and different workflows from users, it's a mess. It's
impo
> > It depends on the mailing list settings. There is a per user setting on
> > many mailing lists of "Avoid duplicate messages". With that you don't
> > receive the list copy if you are listed in the To: or Cc: headers.
> > Which is good, because you don't get two copies; but it's bad because
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 14:22 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> But again, it's common sense on most lists
It's not "common sense", in any way. Someone who's never used mailing
lists before will not just inherently understand this without needing
instruction.
Rather, it's a learned behavior that is obt
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 14:42 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 13:02 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
> > On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 12:59 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
> > > Weird, This message came across as only white-space. Yet the
> > > message was
> > > available under the message sour
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 13:02 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 12:59 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
> > Weird, This message came across as only white-space. Yet the
> > message was
> > available under the message source. And then again in the "repy"
> > message.
>
> And that las
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 09:48 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> It depends on the mailing list settings. There is a per user setting on
> many mailing lists of "Avoid duplicate messages". With that you don't
> receive the list copy if you are listed in the To: or Cc: headers.
> Which is good, because you
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:07:52 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
>On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 13:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> However, IMO it's important to find the least common denominator that
>> works for most MUAs. For mailing lists the rule is, that most of the
>> times a reply should be send to th
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 12:59 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 08:16 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> > On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 13:14 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > There's an evolution-hackers list for developers and, more
> > > importantly, obvious bugs in Evolution should be rep
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:49:48 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
>> Will the mailman ignore/bitbucket those messages that the source
>> address is not subscribed?
>>
>
>I believe they are held for moderation.
For some mailman lists they are held for moderation, for other lists
they are rejected [3].
Some
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 13:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> However, IMO it's important to find the least common denominator that
> works for most MUAs. For mailing lists the rule is, that most of the
> times a reply should be send to the mailing list only.
[citation needed]
> There are just a few
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 08:16 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 13:14 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > There's an evolution-hackers list for developers and, more
> > importantly, obvious bugs in Evolution should be reported in Bugzilla
>
> Hi,
> the bugzilla (
> https://bugzi
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 11:41 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
> What about ShellCommand connections?
Hi,
I just tried it and there is used GUnixInputStream and
GUnixOutputStream, which don't seem to have any timeout settings.
Bye,
Milan
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On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 08:39 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
>
> Hi,
> you mentioned in another email in this thread that you use
> evolution-ews. That reminded me of:
>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671893
> which your version contains, but also of:
>https://bugzilla.gnome.o
>
> Will the mailman ignore/bitbucket those messages that the source address
> is not subscribed?
>
I believe they are held for moderation.
P.
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On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 00:48 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Btw, when replying to a message in Evolution try selecting just the
> part
> of the email you want to reply to, then hit reply while it's selected.
> I
> think that should override the normal reply behaviour, shouldn't it?
>
That's a n
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 13:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there's a big problem with the way a mailing list handles mails and
> the
> way different MUAs handle mailing list mails. The least common
> denominator is that we should only reply to the mailing list and not
> to
> anybody else,
Hi,
there's a big problem with the way a mailing list handles mails and the
way different MUAs handle mailing list mails. The least common
denominator is that we should only reply to the mailing list and not to
anybody else, we also shouldn't post to more than one list by one email.
Let me explai
On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 08:42 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 12:00 +0100, Florian Baumann wrote:
> > Just normal TCP/IP with STARTTLS (which might be the "problem")
> >
> > ...
> > >
> > imapx_server_set_connection_timeout: 0x4f1e930
> > (GTlsClientConnectionGnutls)
>
>
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 09:48 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > (If that seems odd, remember that the person who replies cannot know if
> > you're subscribed to the list or not, so it's horribly rude of them to
> > *drop* you from the direct recipients and potentially cut you out of the
> > conversation.
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 09:48 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> That's why I dislike being directly sent replies to mailing list posts.
> It breaks things for me; it makes things difficult for me. And I can
> explicitly say I don't want it to happen until I'm blue in the face, but
> it won't make any dif
> (If that seems odd, remember that the person who replies cannot know if
> you're subscribed to the list or not, so it's horribly rude of them to
> *drop* you from the direct recipients and potentially cut you out of the
> conversation. See http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html )
Hmm, *I* t
On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 13:43 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
> Using Evolution 3.8.5 on CentOS 7.
>
> My issue is that I setup a "Mailing List Filter" for this "Evolution"
> mailing list, but the filter isn't working automatically.
Hi,
you mentioned in another email in this thread that you u
On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 18:45 -0400, ajtiM wrote:
> ... I have a one "problem" I like to sort email directories. Now it
> start with Inbox and than it is going alphabetical. I like to have
> inbox, drafts, sent, outbox, templates together and than directories
> which I made. Is it possible, please?
On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 13:14 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> There's an evolution-hackers list for developers and, more
> importantly, obvious bugs in Evolution should be reported in Bugzilla
Hi,
the bugzilla (
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution) is
preferred, it's qu
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