Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 18:45 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > That is exactly why Evolution is a shrinking community and unable to > attract new devs in. We've all heard more than enough from you on this topic. I am now moderating your posts to this mailing list. You've earned it. Matthew Barnes _

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) That is exactly why Evolution is a shrinking community and unable to attract new devs in.  One of the main points of a users support list is to benefit the organisation.  Not the other way around.  It is this sort of discussion that might lead one or a few users to realise that they do

Re: [Evolution] Call to end discussion [was: Re: downloads page]

2013-08-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 19:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > it seems that arguments have been brought up (and some are repeating). > Recent debates have been mostly meta-level and off-topic (Linux and > distribution ecosystems). > Kindly asking you to take further discussion off-list when it is not

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahah, i was wondering if that was right.  I've noticed a few times that distros change pathnames in order to be more consistent with each other and wondered how much that mattered.  The User Profiles for many of the links i gave used to be, /home// but most seem to have moved to  /home/

[Evolution] Call to end discussion [was: Re: downloads page]

2013-08-27 Thread Andre Klapper
Alright, it seems that arguments have been brought up (and some are repeating). Recent debates have been mostly meta-level and off-topic (Linux and distribution ecosystems). Kindly asking you to take further discussion off-list when it is not specifically related to Evolution to avoid noise and

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Pete Biggs
I'm not convinced that a mailing list for helping users with Evolution is really the place to be teaching someone about packaging software ... But nevertheless... > > > Several times i have seen people saying that packages in Gnu&Linux > need a separate new compile for each individual distro.

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think devs are a subset of users.  Most devs use the tool they are writing (hopefully) so they are users too.  Some users do have skills but seldom use them so although they can't really be counted as devs most of us think of them as devs.  Most of us users are completely useless at an

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Alberto Ruiz
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:07 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 15:10 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > Is less than ideal, it means a lot of trouble for application > > developers: > > a) If you write an app, you have to either learn how to package your app > > for every distro

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 16:35 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > I thought that was one of the myths about Gnu&Linux. > > Several times i have seen people saying that packages in Gnu&Linux > need a separate new compile for each individual distro. However all > the links i gave to other projects

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  I thought that was one of the myths about Gnu&Linux.  Several times i have seen people saying that packages in Gnu&Linux need a separate new compile for each individual distro.  However all the links i gave to other projects show only 2-3 downloads and that seems to be enough to cover

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 15:10 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Is less than ideal, it means a lot of trouble for application > developers: > a) If you write an app, you have to either learn how to package your app > for every distro or convince them to package and maintain the package > for you. In pract

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 14:52 +0200, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > Von: "Alberto Ruiz" > > In the meantime, even if less than ideal, we have to cope with the fact > > that it's distros who distribute Evolution. > That actually _is_ the ideal way. > Someone writes a nice programme. Someone else package

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Is less than ideal, it means a lot of trouble for application developers: a) If you write an app, you have to either learn how to package your app for every distro or convince them to package and maintain the package for you. In practice it means months before your app can hit the users. Compare t

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Peter von Kaehne
> Von: "Alberto Ruiz" > In the meantime, even if less than ideal, we have to cope with the fact > that it's distros who distribute Evolution. That actually _is_ the ideal way. Someone writes a nice programme. Someone else packages it for their distribution A and again somebody else for distrib

Re: [Evolution] downloads page

2013-08-27 Thread Alberto Ruiz
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 17:55 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > One of the frequent problems on this list is with Ubuntu users using > some ancient version of Evolution and clearly the Ubunutu package > maintainers are not going to fix it by putting a very recent version > in their repos. I guess that is w

Re: [Evolution] Idealism face plants against asphalt [Was: downloads page]

2013-08-27 Thread Peter von Kaehne
> > If you folks just don't have the skills needed I think there comes the moment where a firm DNFTT is the only appropriate further response Peter ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe,

Re: [Evolution] Idealism face plants against asphalt [Was: downloads page]

2013-08-27 Thread Robert Seward
Hello Tom, > Other projects just give 2 or 3 pre-compiled downloads on their sites. > I take it that this project doesn't have the skill-set to provide such > a thing? Is that why people are getting so defensive about > Evolution's inability to provide what every other project seems to be > able