Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 4:13 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 8:26:58 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 3:2

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 8:26:58 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 3:23 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 8:26:58 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 3:23 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 P

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 8:26:58 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 3:23 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 3:23 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Al

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:46:02 PM UTC

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 2:10 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 5:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 5:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Ala

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 1:41 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Ala

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:36:31 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:46:02 PM UTC

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:59 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:46:02 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 7:17 PM Ala

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 7:26:18 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:46:02 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 7:17 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:20:43 PM UTC

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 8:45 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:46:02 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 7:17 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:20:43 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: Stupidity really has no limits 😔 Seen any prairie dogs lately? Speaking of stupidity; how many countably infinite worlds have you created in the last 30 seconds? BTW, what does the length contraction formula in SR tell

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:46:02 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 7:17 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:20:43 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:23:11 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:35 AM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 7:17 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:20:43 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:23:11 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:35 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

Stupidity really has no limits 😔 Le dim. 9 févr. 2025, 01:17, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:20:43 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:23:11 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:35 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > >

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 3:20:43 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:23:11 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:35 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 12:29:55 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: The way I see it there are tw

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 9:23:11 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:35 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 12:29:55 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: The way I see it there are two frames f1 and f2, *one *rod located at the origin of f1, fixed in f1

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:35 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 12:29:55 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > The way I see it there are two frames f1 and f2, *one *rod located at the > origin of f1, fixed in f1, but moving wrt f2. Of course, frames are > coordinate systems

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 12:29:55 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: The way I see it there are two frames f1 and f2, *one *rod located at the origin of f1, fixed in f1, but moving wrt f2. Of course, frames are coordinate systems and our single rod has coordinates in both frames, but only *

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

The way I see it there are two frames f1 and f2, *one *rod located at the origin of f1, fixed in f1, but moving wrt f2. Of course, frames are coordinate systems and our single rod has coordinates in both frames, but only *EXISTS* in one frame, f1. Is "only exists in one frame" just a synonym

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 11:17 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 3:46 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 6:48:34 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:48 AM Al

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 3:46 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 6:48:34 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:48 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 6:44:29 AM UTC-7 J

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 5:48 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 3:46 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 6:48:34 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: >> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:48 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 6:44:29 AM U

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 3:46 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 6:48:34 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:48 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 6:44:29 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:16 AM Alan Gray

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 6:48:34 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:48 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 6:44:29 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 11:37:48 PM UTC-7 Jess

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:48 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 6:44:29 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 11:37:48 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 12:09 AM Alan

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 6:44:29 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 11:37:48 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 12:09 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 9:39:04 PM UTC-7 J

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 11:37:48 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 12:09 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 9:39:04 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 11:04 PM Alan

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 11:37:48 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 12:09 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 9:39:04 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 11:04 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *In mathematics, functions have domains and ranges

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 12:09 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 9:39:04 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 11:04 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *In mathematics, functions have domains and ranges, standard terminology. > A function maps domain sets to rang

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 9:39:04 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 11:04 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *In mathematics, functions have domains and ranges, standard terminology. A function maps domain sets to range sets. The image of a function is the set containing its range.

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

*In mathematics, functions have domains and ranges, standard terminology. A function maps domain sets to range sets. The image of a function is the set containing its range. Again, standard mathematical terminology. The contraction formula, derived for the LT, is a function. With me so far? AG*

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

AG, your predictable routine of dodging, misrepresenting, and then dramatically announcing your exit is getting old. Let's wrap this up quickly. 1. QM and probabilities You’re still missing the point. Yes, probabilities in QM have realized outcomes—but only within a framework where multiple possib

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 1:42:09 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: AG, your deflections are as transparent as ever. Let’s cut through the nonsense. 1. QM and randomness: You’re conflating different ideas. Quantum mechanics describes probabilistic outcomes within a framework where events s

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

AG, your deflections are as transparent as ever. Let’s cut through the nonsense. 1. QM and randomness: You’re conflating different ideas. Quantum mechanics describes probabilistic outcomes within a framework where events still have causal structures. But in a single-history universe, probabilities

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 12:43:17 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: AG, your response is as predictable as it is empty. Let’s address it point by point: 1. Clark's equation and "everything that can happen, must happen": This is a strawman. I never claimed that Clark’s equation implies "ev

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

AG, your response is as predictable as it is empty. Let’s address it point by point: 1. Clark's equation and "everything that can happen, must happen": This is a strawman. I never claimed that Clark’s equation implies "everything that can happen, must happen." My argument is about the absurdity of

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 12:12:23 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: AG, your attempt at a Shakespearean flourish doesn’t mask the emptiness of your claim. You say I’ve added nothing of substance, yet I’ve engaged in discussions about the absurdity of a single-history universe. If an event

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

AG, your attempt at a Shakespearean flourish doesn’t mask the emptiness of your claim. You say I’ve added nothing of substance, yet I’ve engaged in discussions about the absurdity of a single-history universe. If an event never happens in a single-history universe, its true probability is effective

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 8:35:07 AM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: Jesse, there is only three possibilities, either AG is senile or a troll or both. Now that this list is deader than dead thanks to him and cosmin, please consider to let it die in the everything, it's a sad sad time, but thi

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:33:56 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:26:56 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 10:01 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:25

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:26:56 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 10:01 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:43:18 PM UT

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 10:01 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:43:18 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:36:42 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:43:18 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:20:35 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 5:38 PM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:43:18 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:20:35 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 5:38 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 a

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:43:18 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:20:35 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 5:38 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 3:10:56 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:20:35 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 5:38 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 3:10:56 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:47:05 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 5:38 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 3:10:56 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:47:05 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 20

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 3:10:56 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:47:05 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 3:33 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 4:47 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 3:33 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:35 PM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:47:05 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 3:33 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:35 

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 3:33 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:35 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:16:52 AM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 3:33 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:35 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:16:52 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:47 

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 1:33:09 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:35 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:16:52 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:4

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:35 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:16:52 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:47 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 10:28:05 

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:35 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:16:52 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:47 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:59

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:16:52 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:47 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:38:19 

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 11:16:52 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:47 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:38:19 

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:47 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:38:19 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:05

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:38:19 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:05 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:59:32 A

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:59 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:38:19 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:05 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:59:32 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:16 A

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 9:38:19 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:05 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:59:32 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:48:21 AM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:05 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:59:32 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:48:21 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:51 A

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 7:59:32 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:48:21 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:51 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 6:52:47 PM U

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:48:21 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:51 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: > > Whooo! H! > > Brent > > > An

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 6:48:21 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:51 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: Whooo! H! Brent Another fool who doesn't get it? Another fool who can't think out of the bo

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 12:51 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: > > Whooo! H! > > Brent > > > Another fool who doesn't get it? Another fool who can't think out of the > box? Jesse claims that the LT preserves what it predicts

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 4:06:51 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 4:30 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:10:53 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 9:27 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:26:43 AM UT

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 6:52:47 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: Whooo! H! Brent Another fool who doesn't get it? Another fool who can't think out of the box? Jesse claims that the LT preserves what it predicts for local events AND, according to his lights, using the LT it can be

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

Whooo!  H! Brent On 1/29/2025 1:30 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: This is my last word on this subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ever

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 4:30 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:10:53 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 9:27 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:26:43 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

*Jesse's main problem is that he doesn't know what relative motion means as defined in SR, which is introduced in the context of empty space with only two moving frames of reference. So our discussion is worthless and I've effectively terminated it. You're obviously under the same delusion, not

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-7 John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 3:09 PM Quentin Anciaux wrote: *> And now jesss, you don't understand English 🤔🙃🤣* *What's the goal here ? You know, I know, everybody here knows, that will lead nowhere, there is nothing to win here

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:10:53 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 9:27 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:26:43 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 1:30:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 20

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 3:09 PM Quentin Anciaux wrote: *> And now jesss, you don't understand English 🤔🙃🤣* > > *What's the goal here ? You know, I know, everybody here knows, that will > lead nowhere, there is nothing to win here other than losing precious > seconds of your life to a stupid perso

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 9:27 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:26:43 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 1:30:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

And now jesss, you don't understand English 🤔🙃🤣 What's the goal here ? You know, I know, everybody here knows, that will lead nowhere, there is nothing to win here other than losing precious seconds of your life to a stupid person. Le mer. 29 janv. 2025, 20:54, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > On Wed

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 11:06:18 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:37 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 9:23:31 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 3:30 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:37 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 9:23:31 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 3:30 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 9:23:31 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 3:30 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 3:30 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 PM

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 2:26:43 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 1:30:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 202

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 1:30:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 P

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 1:30:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 P

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 1:30:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 P

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wednesday, January 29, 2025 at 12:24:33 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:56:32 PM UTC

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 1:24 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: > > On 1/28/2025 6:49 AM, Alan Grayson wr

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/28/2025 6:49 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: I figured you'd jump on my word "separation". You have no ide

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 8:54 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > > On 1/28/2025 6:49 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > I figured you'd jump on my word "separation". You have no idea what I > mean? Of course, events with different coo

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:56:32 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/28/2025 6:49 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: I figured you'd jump on my word "separation". You have no idea what I mean? Of course, events with different coordinates are separated in a physical sense. Otherwise they'd have t

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On 1/28/2025 6:49 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: I figured you'd jump on my word "separation". You have no idea what I mean? Of course, events with different coordinates are separated in a physical sense. Otherwise they'd have the SAME coordinates! But separated wrt spacetime events means no causal

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 4:03 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 11:37:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Alan

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:03:24 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 11:37:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM A

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 11:37:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 7:28:08 AM UTC-7

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

Jesse, he will *never* acknowledge anything... that will go on forever, this list is already dead because of that. Le mar. 28 janv. 2025, 22:03, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM Alan Grayson wrot

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 11:37:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 7:28:08 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 12:52 AM Ala

Re: Length Contraction in SR (again)

On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 11:37:54 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 7:28:08 AM UTC-7 Jesse Mazer wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 12:52 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, January 27, 2025 at 10:24:41 PM UTC-7

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