Re: [EVDL] e-volks upgrade....

Congratulations! Makes me want to change to lithium sooner than later. Presently, I have 18 US125 FLA batteries that weigh about 1,200 pounds, and an old Curtis controller that is limited to about 350 amps. Makes for some ponderously slow acceleration. http://evalbum.com/4331 Sounds like you're

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

The discharge rate of the cells should play into the calculations as well. If the cells have a 3C max rate, 45 90 ah cells could produce about 52 HP (270 amps max@144v), resulting in a somewhat underpowered vehicle. How much does exceeding the discharge rate reduce the life of the pack? Is th

Re: [EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

My vote is to retain the rules as is. As noted previously, the endless production horizon blather of FCEV and H2 is available elsewhere, and generates much more heat than light here. Tom Keenan ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usu

Re: [EVDL] As an aid when recommending an EV to someone else,

You forgot to add: time standing in a hazardous fuel vapor environment needed to regain X miles of distance. Tom Keenan On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > One question that a potential EV car buyer always asks is "Just how far it > will take me before another charge is

Re: [EVDL] Electric Auto Union

I'll second that - absolutely beautiful restoration. Congratulations on getting it back on the road! Tom Keenan On Aug 23, 2014, at 5:29 PM, John Lindsay via EV wrote: > Beautiful car and awesome result. > > I too an very interested in the instrumentation. I have the same controller > and

Re: [EVDL] EVangel-about: retrofit CT-2100 EVSE to have L2 6kW & 3kW access

I've wondered what the stats are for L1 on the Chargepoint units. Over the last few years I have only rarely seen anyone (other than myself) use the L1 outlets. Because most charging stations are J1772 only, and my conversion has a 2kw charger (19 amps @ 120v max) I built an adapter that chang

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

Bob's page on EVs can be found here... http://www.aprs.org/EV-charging-everywhere.html Tom Keenan > On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:22 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI via EV wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: via EV winfield...@yahoo.com > To: Willie2 , Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Sent:

Re: [EVDL] afk ...

Hope things go well for you Bruce, and looking forward to your return! Tom Keenan > On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > I had queued this message for 10/8 my last day, but it might be better to > post it now even though we all expect the best for the scheduled evdl ser

Re: [EVDL] OT: Alive, back-home after-surgery, and working on getting well ...

Glad everything went well, and welcome back! Tom Keenan > On Oct 10, 2014, at 1:35 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/afk-tp4671942.html > afk ... > ] > > While this post does have a whiff of EV stuff to it, it is mostly OT

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

If NACS does become the standard, I’m curious how Tesla will do billing for non-Tesla vehicles. Will the vehicle be identified by the charging station (as Teslas are at superchargers?) or will it be via app? I also wonder if Tesla will disallow some vehicles (or certain models) from charging on

[EVDL] NACS Implementation Timeline from EV Manufacturers

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Re: [EVDL] want soc spread sheet

Can the SOC for a 40kWh conversion be calculated from the canbus gids data packet? Or are gids only oriented to the original battery size? Tom Keenan > On Mar 12, 2024, at 8:03 AM, Zeke Yewdall via EV wrote: > > I am not sure about the leaf batteries in particular, but my experience > with li

Re: [EVDL] NEMA 14-50 Receptacles for EVSE, EV Charging

NEC article 625.17 has a mention that the input cord length shall not exceed 12” if the personnel protection system (GFI?) is located in the EVSE enclosure. That appears to be an ‘out’ for needing a GFI breaker? Just speculation. Tom Keenan > On Apr 12, 2024, at 7:14 AM, Mark Hanson via EV wr

Re: [EVDL] BYD EV's US available?

There appears to be a couple of main reasons why BYD is not importing EVs to the US: 25% tariff on Chinese made EVs (initially put in place by Trump, and extended under Biden). Chinese EVs are specifically exempted from qualifying for any rebates or incentives. BYD Likely does not meet US safet

Re: [EVDL] Charging port locations

The charging port on my Kona is front and just about center in the ‘grille’. Works well for almost all public charging locations, especially those older sites that have particularly short cords. Occasionally the front charging port is an issue with public EVSE that is installed at the side betw

Re: [EVDL] Scrapping an EV

They generally tow cars away for free if the scrap metal is worth at least the cost of the tow. You may be able to work a charitable contribution for taxes if you call the correct place. If you live far from any wrecking/scrap yard, there may be a towing fee. Tom Keenan > On Jan 13, 2015, at

Re: [EVDL] Damaged ADC FB1-4001A Motor

It sounds to me like an overspeed. One or more of the individual commutator segments has broken free of the bonding. Although it may be possible to rewind the motor, a replacement may be the less expensive/most reliable route. If only the commutator is damaged (one or two bars lifted under the b

Re: [EVDL] Comuta-Car PbSO4 batteries

Another thing to consider when getting batteries is the overall height, including terminal posts. There isn't much room height-wise in the bumpers where the batteries are located. Will the 8v batteries have the same physical dimension as the T-105? The batteries nearest the ends of the Comutac

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Utilities seek larger part in charging station rollout

> In the Southeast, Southern Co.'s Georgia Power subsidiary is spending > $12 million on a pilot program to install as many as 50 public EV charging > stations by the end of 2016 (EnergyWire, March 5). That's $240,000 per station. Hopefully they will be installed where they are truly needed...

Re: [EVDL] Easy EV Comparison - The Enemy is Us?

> It'll mostly be an all-electric vehicle -- to the point that, as with Volt > owners, save for road trips, I'll have to pay attention to not letting the > gasoline get stale in the tank. In speaking with Volt manufacturer reps, they say that the Volt engineers thought of that as well. They pr

Re: [EVDL] Last call for LeSled

I can understand the lack of potential conversion buyers. My present EV, a 1989 Ford Escort converted by a company in Santa Rosa, was on sale at one point for $2,000 but it never sold. Ultimately, the owner put it up for grabs on the local EAA list. I put a set of new lead acid batteries in, a

Re: [EVDL] Question: L5-30P vs L6-30P

If you look at the linked chart, the main difference is that the hot and neutral (two hots on the L6-30) are reversed, as far as width goes. Because of the switched widths, they won't plug into the other voltage receptacle. https://frentzandsons.com/Hardware%20References/twistlockplugandrecept

Re: [EVDL] The secrets of Avcon or smashing the hell out of a glued together claw.

Is this similar? http://www.tucsonev.com/EVIDS50.html Tom Keenan > On Jan 26, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > Avcon was very through in star screw binding and gluing together the CLAW. > After application of mallet and screwdriver the insides were reveled. > Comparing th

Re: [EVDL] VW is claiming new EVs will use 48-volt systems

48 volts does indeed seem low for a modern EV, particularly one that weighs more than 3,000 pounds and is expected to go more than 60 MPH. I had a 48vdc (nominal) Citicar (about 1350 pounds empty) a few years back. It would struggle to go over 35 MPH. With a 450 amp controller, there is about 2

Re: [EVDL] Disinformation: EVLN: Leaf EV is Still Better Than a Tesla

Told from someone that has experienced the ride. A ride in a Leaf is nice, but driving a Tesla is on a totally different level. Hard to capture in words. Tom Keenan > On Apr 14, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: > > I have noticed, though, that attitudes towards electric vehicles

[EVDL] Engineered “Sand” May Help Cool Electronic Devices

I imagine this can have application in battery and inverter/charger/controller thermal management. http://www.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/1198-ntb/news/news/25219 If it works as advertised, it might save some weight in reduced coolant volume needed. Tom Keenan -- next

Re: [EVDL] Used EV's for sale on Autotrader

A big part of the increased availability of used EVs is that most electrics (according to an October 2015 CNBC article, around 80% in 2013 and 2014, currently around 75%) are leased as opposed to sold outright. This compares with about 28% of ICE vehicles being leased. As these three-year lease

Re: [EVDL] AM radios dropped from plugins (RFI, EMI, +)> (go digital)

I have a 2013 Leaf, and the AM radio works fine. Same with my old 2005 Prius. I use the AM radio on a daily basis during my commute to work. Not sure if it is perhaps an issue with certain radio suppliers/car manufacturers? Tom Keenan > On Nov 9, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Toyota dealers say there is no sale$ demand.us for EVs

If this is based on dealership interviews/meetings, then then perhaps the dealership answer was really (...since we make less money on servicing electrics) we don’t want to sell them. Thus, we pretend there is no demand. Tom Keenan > On Dec 13, 2018, at 12:46 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM boosts Bolt production> (after killing-off Sonic ice)

The article mentions low sales for the Sonic as a reason for possible end of production of the Sonic. Oddly, the monthly and yearly sales numbers of both the Bolt and Sonic are relatively similar - less than 2,000 each most months, and less than 20,000 each for 2018. Tom Keenan > On Jan 22, 2

Re: [EVDL] (ot): EVLN EV newswire status ...

Best of luck Bruce - take it easy on the drive, and don’t forget to stop and have some fun along the way. Tom Keenan >> On Dec 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >> >> >> >> In the past I have mentioned that I am spending time doing tasks and >> research to relocate (to more afford

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

I have an old Zivan Charger (1.2/2.2 kW switchable, 120v input) that was set up for a 54 cell lead acid pack. Tops out around 2.45 volts per cell (132.5 volts) if you would like to use it. Can be reprogrammed by a shop in Sacramento if needed. Located in the Bay Area. It was used in an old c

Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf key: $300! Yikes

I have a 2013 Leaf. It has a charging door open button inside at the left of the steering wheel. I normally use the ‘inside’ button when I get home and the EV is parked for the day. Occasionally, I forget to unlock the door before I get out, or if I happen to not plug it in until later in th

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: "I have a Tesla and I didn’t even know that’s an electric car"

Perhaps I'm the one out of touch - like most celebrities, I've never heard of her until this article. Tom Keenan > On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:06 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > http://www.celebritycarsblog.com/2015/08/chelsea-handler-tesla/ > Chelsea Handler Owns a Tesla but Doesn’t Know How

Re: [EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

If I remember correctly, the charging area was unlighted until the 2013 model year. There is a LED light between the CHaDeMo port and the J1772 inlet on 2013 and newer model years. Not sure if the J1772 wiring involved anything with the lighting setup. Tom Keenan > On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:54

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

About two years ago, I asked a gas station/convenience store owner what the normal amounts of electricity they used were, and he said about 350 kWh in summer, and 250 kWh in the winter. (Natural gas heating). I asked if this was for an entire month, and me said no, that was the amount used for a

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

Yep - the old 'fat fingers' on the bitty keyboard. The owner said he normally gets 200 to 400 cars per day - it is a busy station. So, instead of 125 to 175 Wh per car share of the gas station power use, it works out higher, to 1.25 - 1.75 kWh per customer. Five to seven EV miles could be dri

Re: [EVDL] EVLN status ... feast or famine> sign of the times

Hi Bruce, Thanks for going through all the articles and posting the best. I do a similar function for my 'day job', so my appreciation for what you do is that much greater. My daughter likes the combination of a Verizon iPhone and a tethered iPad for connectivity. I have ATT, and the connecti

Re: [EVDL] Repairs Needed

I've made an open EVSE as well. They work great. Just make sure you get a main relay of sufficient capacity, as the first one I built only had a 20 amp / 240v (4.8 kW) max. Installing a 30 amp version takes the same amount of time and physical space, and only costs a few dollars more. Tom Ke

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Leaf. 2,600 original miles.

Sounds like a great deal - congratulations! Tom Keenan > On Dec 26, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > > I got a used Leaf for 14k 0 down & 0% for 60 months. First payment & money > out of pocket is in February. It is pristine. Did I do good? Lawrence > Rhodes > ---

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: This Is The GM-200mi EV Before You Are Supposed To See It (v)

It's also possible that the Bolt test drivers were a bit heavy footed to see how it would perform. That, and any car needs to have the driver 'broken in' for a while to see the numbers improve. Tom Keenan > On Jan 7, 2016, at 1:12 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > > What am I missi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Na Researchers reveal 650mi on single-charge Tesla 'superbatteries'

Perhaps the next thing in charging will be to post a sign at the charge station with a $/kWh sign - somewhat like $/gallon at gas stations. Could be different prices for L2 and fast charging. Once there are enough charging stations in an area, drivers could choose based on price they see, rathe

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Na Researchers reveal 650mi on single-charge Tesla 'superbatteries'

On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:47 AM, Mark Abramowitz wrote: > > Why kWh, and not kW? > > Sent from AltaMail > > >> >> From:Tom Keenan via EV >> To: paul dove , Electric Vehicle Discussion >> List >> CC: Lawrence Rhodes >> Sub

Re: [EVDL] New EV world record set

Yep - setting an EV record in a Mirai is kind of like saying they broke the 'all electric' mileage record with a Volt or Prius Plug in. Just has a different type of generator on board. Probably why the tease line and the cryptic URL without referencing that it was really a fuel cell advertisemen

Re: [EVDL] Electronics help anyone

I have a similar device in my old Electron Ford Escort - a ZEVA fuel gauge driver plus. It works quite well with the old Ford analog gauges. http://www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=144 You might try their setup file - might be the same device as the one you have, just made in

Re: [EVDL] Electronics help anyone

I ended up replacing the bi-metal 'voltage regulator' with a solid state 7805 (if memory serves) to provide voltage to the fuel gauge and the temperature gauge (I use an OEM temp sending unit attached to the motor case). Works fine with the ZEVA unit on the '89 style gauges. Tom Keenan > On O

Re: [EVDL] 2015 Chevrolet Spark EV Code Reader Scanner OBD2

If GM goes the same route as did Nissan with the Leaf, the OBD2 port will likely be used for monitoring the CAN buses. That being said, there may place some info on OBD2 about non-engine related codes, such as ABS, entertainment, and other common systems that interface with the vehicle's onboard

Re: [EVDL] Charging station with amps watts and KWh

We built up about a dozen kits that day - my EVSE is still working well also. If anyone is interested in having another build party, I'm sure it can be arranged. They take at most about three or four hours to put together. Faster folks might take an hour. Tom Keenan > On Dec 3, 2016, at 7:02

Re: [EVDL] Shorted FB1-4001A DC motor?

I have a similarly sized GE motor, and it takes about 30 amps to run with no load. However, it overheats my 30 amp power supply if used for too long, and the motor needs about 50 amps to start turning. You can start them with a 12v battery in parallel with the power supply for a few seconds if t

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170101

Back then the Citicar was competing with ICE cars like the Pinto and the Vega. Either could be had for about $3,600 in 1976. The Citicar was about $1,000 higher at about $4,600. Tom Keenan > On Jan 1, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >>> The resu

Re: [EVDL] HPGC AC-31-01 Diagram or Manual

I also have an older DC powered conversion with a clutch. I've found that shifting with the clutch is much faster and much more forgiving. I've driven it 'clutchless' a couple of times as an exercise, but found it to be very slow to shift with the foot off the clutch. Matching motor speed with

Re: [EVDL] MAXIMUM VOLTAGE: Curtis 1238-6501

The 1238-6501 uses 48 to 80 volts DC (nominal). The voltage of the pack will likely be a bit higher than the nominal rating. As an example, a 48 volt (nominal) lead acid pack might have a fully charged resting voltage around 52.5 volts, and similar 72 volt pack would have a resting voltage just

[EVDL] Sustainable Aviation and the Pipistrel Alpha Electro Trainers

In case you are interested in electric aircraft, there will be a seminar in San Carlos on Saturday April 8th. I'm not sure, but this will probably just be a classroom presentation. Tom Keenan "Sustainable Aviation and the Pipistrel Alpha Electro Trainers" Topic: Safe, green, quiet and economic

Re: [EVDL] $614 poorer Oslo.no Leaf EV driver busted> used mannequin as hov passenger

...And the picture was also taken while a blue Leaf SV drives past, seen out the driver side window. Tom Keenan > On May 5, 2017, at 9:09 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/614-poorer-Oslo-no-Leaf-EV-driver-busted-used-dish

Re: [EVDL] spray on PC board protectant

The MiniBMS bypass resistor is a 5w/4.7ohm power resistor (cement type with axial leads). SMD (surface mount device) was probably meant to describe the other devices on the board. The large resistor on the MiniBMS (the version I've worked with only has one) gets hot in use, so spraying a coati

Re: [EVDL] Complacent Leaf execs talk 200mi range in 2yrs

Although the title is based on a dated article (2016) the longer-range redesigned 2018 model year Leaf is due out later is year. It does seem that they have been resting on their laurels a bit long. Looks like they are dumping current model year inventory ahead of the new version. At least one

Re: [EVDL] looking for cheap load tester (Battery Recycling lead-acid)

The last couple of batteries I took to the recycler ended up being 27 cents a pound. Oakland, CA. Tom Keenan > On May 27, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > > Wow! Last time I took some lead-acids to recycle (about a year ago in NJ) > they were paying 8 cents a pound. > > Hardly

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery pack overheating due

6 bars doesn't sound bad - 80 degrees or so ambient will give you 6 bars. Here's a story on Reddit about a long trip in a Leaf - this guy definitely had a hot battery- at 11 bars. https://www.reddit.com/r/leaf/comments/66k5pm/did_a_long_haul_trip_today/?st=J4BYZSR8&sh=51ae1d60 Tom Keenan > On

Re: [EVDL] Fair Radio parts and Rudman Mk1 docs needed

I've found breaker/switches at West Marine. I believe they come in 5, 15, 20, and 30 amp versions. Tom Keenan > On Jul 22, 2017, at 1:38 PM, David Chapman via EV wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source for the AC and DC switch / breakers on a Fair > Radio charger? These appear to be some ty

Re: [EVDL] Fair Radio parts and Rudman Mk1 docs needed

Try a search for part number W31-X2M1G-30 You can replace the -30 with a different amperage rating for other types if this is what you're looking for. Tom Keenan ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listin

Re: [EVDL] K&W BC20 96 volt charger replacement?

I have a BC20 with the full set of resistors, and a Zivan NG3 that are used, and either should work well for your needs. Before that, you should check for ground faults. Spilled acid is one of the main reasons for increasing nuisance trips of the built-in GFI. Could just need to rinse off the pa

Re: [EVDL] Ford's Energi pih abandonment raises questions> (AK writer's EV-ignorance dogmatized)

Way OT here, but months ago we drove a rental truck across country. It was an E85 flex-fuel rig. We stopped someplace in Corn Country and filled up on ‘cheap fuel’ (E85) instead of regular E10 because it happened to be available. Instead of getting 10-11 mpg as averaged for the first part of t

Re: [EVDL] Dieselgate part two.

The video explained that the Dieselgate ‘fix’ for a specific Diesel engine used in at least one model of VW only was enabled between a specific outside air temperature range, 5 to 35 c if I remember correctly. If the temp was less than 5c, the emissions fix was turned off. If above 35c it was tu

Re: [EVDL] Charging adapter for J1772?

I made an adapter to use J1772 level 2 when I had an older conversion car. The charger used an input of 120v. I found that most ‘commercial’ locations have 220 volts at the plug, so I had to get a transformer that would put out 120v when supplied with 220v. When plugged in to the rare Level 2 c

Re: [EVDL] NDEW updates: 9/14 Austin, 9/21 San Antonio; vw's E.America L3 EVSE @Walmart

Not related to a VW install, but I went to a ‘dual’ CCS/Chademo location one time, and as no one was using it I plugged in (and paid...) to top off some of the battery. While there, another user plugged in to the CCS side. I finished my lunch, and the other driver was standing near her car. Sh

Re: [EVDL] sacrilege> Obrist mutilates Tesla-3 EV into 17kWh 2cyl pih r:1000km

And it makes me wonder what kind of emissions control it will have. If it is just a ‘standard’ generator, the hybrid will likely will not have a catalytic converter, vapor control, etc. those systems take significant engineering to control and keep emissions low, much less find space to mount a

Re: [EVDL] FĒNIX POWER subscription based EV pack nissan Leaf replacement program

I haven’t heard of this company, but I wonder if they will be able to use the name Fenix without a copyright problem. Garmin (GPS devices) has a series of GPS running watches that use the same name and spelling (FĒNIX). Also, the lease/service fee they are proposing is about $99 a month plus i

Re: [EVDL] Stranded ICE assets

Oddly, fuel prices where I live (SF Bay Area) really haven’t changed much. Still a bit over $3 per gallon for regular. Has been that way for several months at least. Tom Keenan > On Apr 26, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >>> Electric adoption wi

Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's (economics)

For those interested, here is a slightly more detailed write-up of my solar power system at home. The supplier for my system is Electriq. They provided a Darfon(Panasonic) charger/inverter and the Panasonic batteries. I believe the battery cells are similar to the ones used by Tesla, but am n

Re: [EVDL] NACS (Tesla) to CCS adapter from stealership

In the Tesla app, there is a section for info to fill in for non-Tesla vehicle charging. Tom > On Feb 8, 2025, at 3:00 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > > Hi > Since the NACS to CCS adapter was $236 and the aftermarket $180 that Phil and > Cor mentioned had safety issues (on disconnect) I spra