Re: [EVDL] Suitcase EV.

2014-06-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
That's clever. "have battery box, just add wheels..." -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes via EV Sent: 02 June, 2014 12:33 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: [EVDL] Suitcase EV. https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: E-school-buses $ave school districts million$&power the grid

2014-06-03 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Cor, Using the busses for grid stabilization makes sense. My question is how does that help the utility avoid having its own stabilization system? That is, while the busses are parked, they are doing some stabilization. However, when they're out on their route, they aren't. So, doesn't the util

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: E-school-buses $ave school districts million$&power the grid

2014-06-03 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
rofessor.com Phone # (863) 944-9913 Dade City, Florida 33523 USA On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Cor, Using the busses for grid stabilization makes sense. My question is how does that help the utility avoid having

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: E-school-buses $ave school districtsmillion$&powerthe grid

2014-06-03 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
roxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:20 PM To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List&#x

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: E-school-buses $aveschooldistrictsmillion$&powerthe grid

2014-06-03 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
il: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 4:51 PM To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subjec

Re: [EVDL] V2G at L1 is practical

2014-06-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
You wouldn't even need a central instruction. It could be the same V2G electronics, but only one way. That is, when there's a dip in voltage charging decreases. The bigger the dip, the more the charge shuts down. I suppose it could also react to spikes and absorb extra current for a moment, too

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2015 Kia Soul EV will be sold in CA, OR, NY, NJ & MD (video)

2014-06-11 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Looks pretty nice. Might be a strong competitor to the Leaf depending on real world experience and pricing. I hope they the "electron storage" doesn't compromise the backseat toespace as much as in the Leaf. Peri -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf O

Re: [EVDL] Compliance Cars : EVLN: 2015 Kia Soul EV ...

2014-06-11 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Bruce, any opinion on the Soul EV? It looks too well designed to be a compliance car but, then, so did some of the other blacklisted models. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "brucedp5 via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 11-Jun-14 3:49:00 PM Subject: [EVDL] Compliance Cars : EVLN: 201

Re: [EVDL] Compliance Cars : EVLN: 2015 Kia Soul EV ...

2014-06-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
s, forums, etc.) so the buyer can make an informed choice to buy, or not-buy a compliance car EV. {brucedp.150m.com} - On Wed, Jun 11, 2014, at 04:57 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Bruce, any opinion on the Soul EV? It looks too well designed to be a compliance car but, then, so d

[EVDL] harley-davidson introduces electric motorcycle

2014-06-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
From wired.com: ... Harley isn't saying much about the drivetrain beyond saying the bike uses a lithium-ion battery with a range of 53 miles. It charges in 3.5 hours at 220 volts. Assuming the bike has a 3.3 kw charging system like other electric motorcycles, some back-of-the-envelope math su

Re: [EVDL] winter parking brake

2014-06-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
When you're at -30 there is likely near zero humidity. On the other hand, in temps from 20-30 there is much higher humidity and I would think brake freezing would be more likely. It's only happened to me a few times. I found that by rocking the car forward and back, gently, they eventually f

Re: [EVDL] winter parking brake

2014-06-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Actually, for the times it has happened to me is when there is wet snow with wind - blowing the moisture into the wheel well. Some of it makes its way around the brake pads and freezes overnight. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Cor van de Water via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discus

Re: [EVDL] Gas tax is not working to cover the entire road maintenence budget

2014-06-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I like your idea, Dennis, of having a general sales tax (or perhaps a less regressive general tax) cover heavy vehicles. In theory, that would lessen the burden of taxes on EVs and other "light" vehicles. I wonder how many people realize that we heavily subsidize trucking in the form of road m

[EVDL] Electric cars: Good progress, now it’s time to charge ahead

2014-06-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Opinion: Wash. state should adopt the Zero Emission Vehicles program. Peri http://blogs.seattletimes.com/northwestvoices/2014/06/25/electric-cars-good-progress-now-its-time-to-charge-ahead/#comments-page-subtitle June 25, 2014 at 6:04 AM Electric cars: Good progress, now it’s time to charge ahea

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts

2014-06-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Actually it can work fine in some flat areas. Anywhere there is mining, higher sections of old excvations can be flooded and drained down to lower excavations, then pumped back up later. I read an article on this sometime back. Search for "pumped storage mines" and you'll get lots of example

Re: [EVDL] Gas tax is not working...(tolls and Park-N-ride)

2014-06-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
"...that switching to EV's for commuting does nothing to solve congestion..." Me, too. But at least when stuck in a jam, EV's aren't belching out pollution :) Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 25-Jun-14 8:55:14

Re: [EVDL] gas tax (EV transmission lines, not oil pipelines)

2014-06-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Loud and clear! -- Original Message -- From: "Dennis Miles via EV" To: "Robert Bruninga" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 25-Jun-14 10:59:15 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] gas tax (EV transmission lines, not oil pipelines) The AC and the DC losses can be equal in the best case but

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Driving from Kung-Fu I passed a gas station & had an "EV moment"

2014-06-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
How novel, a gas station being built :) I don't think I've seen a new gas station in years. In fact a number of them have disappeared over the last 10. Some of that is due to consolidation but demand is going down! Peri -- Original Message -- From: "brucedp5 via EV" To: ev@lists.e

Re: [EVDL] $1.7 Trillion reinvested

2014-06-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Here's a parallel way to look at it, except with wind generation: According to the US DOE, in table 1: http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/capitalcost/pdf/updated_capcost.pdf the cost to build a wind farm is $2213/kW to build + $40/kW-yr to operate. Add to that pumped storage of the same capacity: $5

Re: [EVDL] $1.7 Trillion reinvested

2014-06-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Big mistake! (I knew something was wrong). US peak in 2012 was 1,000,000MW (not 1000MW). So, total build-out cost would be $7.5T. Ok, that exceeds the challenge. How about just looking at coal? US peak in 2012 (same table) was about 300,000MW. The build-out to replace coal would be:

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (relax)

2014-06-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yep, biofuels are a better short term solution. The technology to use and distribute them exists. The production is improving and, I believe, will be done much more efficiently than current (and using food crops is a disaster). Hydrogen can have its niches but I just don't see it being pract

[EVDL] Fw: 3d printing auto body

2014-06-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Attn: Jerry Dycus -- Forwarded Message -- From: "Peri Hartman" To: "Jerry Dycus" Sent: 28-Jun-14 9:09:47 AM Subject: 3d printing auto body Hi Jerry, I saw this article via EV World and thought of you. I wonder if you could access and make your Freedom EV body with a 3D printer? C

Re: [EVDL] Fw: 3d printing auto body

2014-06-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ions hoping to get a totaled Leaf so bad no one else wants it. though likely have to sell half the pack to afford it. If not I'll just go lead and a range extender Like my new Ewoody until some lithium modules fall my way. Jerry

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VHS vs Betamax> automakers' chose different paths

2014-06-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
This is another oblivious report on hydrogen as a fuel. I sent a comment to the editor but could not figure out how to post a comment for the article (logging into the forum does not allow you to post comments for an article). Here's what I posted: In the article "Global automakers split on

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I wonder how that figure is calculated. Here, in Seattle, I've noticed that most of the deliveries are by minivan which I presume averages much better than 7mpg (maybe 15-20?). They'll drive a couple blocks, do deliveries on foot, then drive a few more blocks. There are also the small trucks

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
This sounds very creative. I can imagine a canoe going down the highway :) Really, as creative as it is, can it be more effective than a bicycle mechanism? After all, it's leg power and there are losses in converting that to electricity and then back to kinetic energy via a motor. Perhaps

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Thanks. Didn't expect you to research it, I just thought you might already have more info. Actually, it was pretty easy to find their website, which has some further info: http://www.humancar.com/hc-press/ Incidentally, it steers by leaning. I didn't see anything about braking but perhaps

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price & how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
No iMiev? Even though sales are low, I would consider them a non-compliance car. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Michael Ross via EV" To: "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 07-Jul-14 8:44:00 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price &

Re: [EVDL] http://teslaroadtrip.org/event-outline

2014-07-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
But, wait! Can they stop at the biker bars along the way? -- Original Message -- From: "robert winfield via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org; "brucedp5" Sent: 09-Jul-14 11:40:02 AM Subject: [EVDL] http://teslaroadtrip.org/event-outline http://teslaroadtrip.org/event-outline tesla road tri

Re: [EVDL] How crazy am I?

2014-07-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Ben, I'll diverge a bit from David's ideas. First, disclaimer: I bought a leaf and have no hands-on experience. One way you could have an ICE and room for EV components is to completely take out the existing ICE and replace it with something much smaller. Even though David claims the paral

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMW&Daimler developing 3-Hour Wireless Inductive EVSE for i3 EV

2014-07-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Another thought, Peter. Is it possible to use multiple coils to focus the "beam"? I don't know wave theory but I believe directional radio transmitters work by having two or more antenae. Can something similar be done with inductive coils? If so, then using some sort of directional recogni

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMW&Daimler developing 3-Hour Wireless Inductive EVSE for i3 EV

2014-07-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Me, too. However, consumers might not care (unfortunately). In other words, you might pay 15% more to cover losses but compared to what? Consumers will be happy to just park and have the charge happen automatically. Unless energy costs are really high, they will get ignored. I'm with you,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMW&Daimler developing 3-Hour Wireless Inductive EVSE for i3 EV

2014-07-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Thanks for your layman explanations. I follow. -- Original Message -- From: "Lee Hart" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 21-Jul-14 12:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMW&Daimler developing 3-Hour Wireless Inductive EVSE for i3 EV From: Peri Hartman

[EVDL] leaf blowers

2014-07-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
My city (Seattle) is studying leaf blower noise and other mal effects and is interested in the viability of electric powered models. I have the opportunity to help supply them with information and am wondering if anyone has any knowledge or other info on what electric powered models are availa

Re: [EVDL] leaf blowers

2014-07-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ategory as littering. Rush www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:16 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: [EVDL] leaf blowers > > My city

Re: [EVDL] leaf blowers

2014-07-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
onEV.com > > >> -Original Message----- >> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV >> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:16 PM >> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List >> Subject: [EVDL] leaf blowers >> >> My city

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-07-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Just one more time, Ben. Do you really need to keep the ICE? Especially with an old car like that - no computer, nothing electronic what so ever, think how easy and simple your configuration would be if electric only. You'd have the extra space. Maybe, after a year or so, you could add mor

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: batteries

2014-07-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yep, areo drag is proportional to square of the speed: 1/2 * Cd * A * air density * speed^2 where Cd == drag coefficient (you can look this up for many car models) A == frontal area: the area of the vehicle as viewed in 2D from the front, in meters^2 air density = roughly 1.2 kg/m^3 at standa

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
You might also consider the i-Miev, if it suits your needs. It has a smaller motor - reviewers say it isn't really powerful enough for the freeway - and a smaller battery than the Leaf. However it's $5K or $6K cheaper. I see someone selling a used one in Albuquerque for $17K. https://usedcar

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Regardless, I doubt that the customer would be liable for violating the rule unless he lies or otherwise deceives the mechanic. It should be the mechanic's and shop's responsibility to know their rules. As a customer, in general, I have no clue what a shop's (mechanic, restaurant, boat rental

[EVDL] Why EVs are awesome

2014-07-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I just looked at the total maintenance costs for my ICE vehicle (Honda Odyssey 2000) and it is just under $20,000. Grant it, I take it on long trips which I can't do with the Leaf but from a cost perspective, even if I need to replace the battery every 6-7 years in my Leaf (and it will likely

Re: [EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

2014-07-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Let me ask the question slightly differently. Would there be an advantage to EVDL members to include FCEV along with BEV discussions on the same list? Would this advantage outweight any disadvantages? In my opinion, the advantages are worth it. While current technology shows that batteries

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: car bought

2014-07-30 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
What ever you do, it will be exicting! What a great collector's item, regardless. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Ben Goren via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 30-Jul-14 10:01:09 AM Subject: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: car bought So, I'm still not sure what exact route

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-01 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
One more idea, to confuse you even more :) You could drop the tranny and keep the ICE. That tranny is rather long and there may be room in the space to put a large motor and a generator without modifying the tunnel.The generator would charge the battery or directly run the motor, dependin

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think Dennis was speaking more of the angle of the glass relative to the sun rather than the type of glass. Certainly, if a pane of glass was parallel to the rays of sunlight, it would transfer virtually no heat or light (only that reflected from other surfaces). But they type of glass does

Re: [EVDL] As an aid when recommending an EV to someone else,

2014-08-03 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yes, m*g*h is appropriate. I'm not sure how much difference air density will make, but that's part of the formula, too. Basically, you figure your areo drag on the level, add in any efficiency losses, and add the force necessary to climb. Other factors would be acceleration from a start and

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
The other problem with cordless charging - whether robot arm or induction - is that it requires a certain orientation of the vehicle. In my case, I back into my driveway because it's too difficult to see when backing out into traffic. So I either would need a charge connection on the back of

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
While I agree that there are some strong political and job transition issues that will arrive with autonomous cars, I completely disagree that they will be unnecessary. Possible benefits: - take transit in the morning, stay late, call for your car at 10pm to pick you up; - intoxicated; let th

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ideo link: http://youtu.%20be/Pz9-TZtySh8 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: While I agree that there are some strong political and job transition issues that will arrive with autonomous cars, I completely disagree that they will be unnecessary. Possible benefits: -

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Vs UK's Ecotricity Dispute - More BackgroundInformation...

2014-08-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
In principal, there is nothing wrong. The problem, in the US anyway, is that generally each company requires a membership to use their station. That is a completely ridiculous model, which might sound like a good customer loyalty program but, in fact, is a deterrent to using any charge statio

Re: [EVDL] Conversion advice (regen)

2014-08-11 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I would tend to agree with you. There was a discussion a while back (a year?) about how much regen gives back. I think the number, for my kind of driving, was around 5% - for a pure EV. In your case, since the electric motor will be used primarily for acceleration - both from a stop and up i

Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'...

2014-08-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Ditto for Seattle. In Seattle, the current fleet will be replaced next year with models having regen and extra battery capacity to allow running "disconnected". That will make them even more of an EV than before! It's true that with trolley lines, the routes are fairly fixed. However the

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Question on how to measure resistance. If you use an ohm meter to measure resistance, I presume it is using a 1mA or smaller current. In electronics applications, that's probably fine. But in a situation where typical current is in the hundreds of amps, will taking a measurement that way be

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
The first two urls are invalid. For the third, I get a page with some greenish rectangles of various shapes. No text or images. Try http://imgur.com/ Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Michael Ross via EV" To: "Cor van de Water" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 19-Aug-14

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
It's a perfect packing of cells into the smallest space. Running the bands up the ends of the cells seems to make sense. However, in this application, they have relatively low current and small wires. To take this to a traction pack, I would want to try a similar design where strings of cell

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
t means, you are intelligent enough, **to know, that there is plenty left to learn!* * You Tube Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss <http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss> * * NEW You Tube Video link: *http://youtu. be/Pz9-TZtySh8 <http://youtu.%20be/Pz9-TZtySh8> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Re: [EVDL] Pipistrel electric airplane

2014-08-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
That looks nicely done. It's interesting that they claim to get 13% (of what?) back during landings. I presume they are doing regen by autorotating the prop. Couldn't find any specs - cruise speed, etc. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Peter C. Thompson via EV" To: "Jan Steinman

Re: [EVDL] Electric bike information

2014-08-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Hi Larry, Great start. My first thought is it might benefit the reader to tell him why he might be interested in an e-bike. It may sound obvious but simply adding some tempting phrases might hook the reader into finishing the article. "Do you hesitate to ride because there are too many hill

Re: [EVDL] Cargo bike with electric chain.

2014-08-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Interesting thought. I doubt it since chains have very little resistance. I presume you are thinking along the lines of putting a generator on the crank and then use that to power a motor on the wheel. What might tip the scale would be to find a way to eliminate the shifting. Instead of a s

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think one could argue that if you take a 100 mile trip once every 6 weeks, an EV for everything else might work. Renting once every 6 weeks would be reasonable, perhaps. However, aside from the Tesla, 100 mile trips aren't possible. More like 55 to 75 depending on vehicle and conditions.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yes. Rental companies have those type of agreements - you get a key fob or something like that and can reserve a car online and minutes later go pick it up. Also, there's flex car and car-2-go. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "John Lussmyer" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"

[EVDL] California may reapportion $2500 EV tax credit

2014-08-30 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
http://grist.org/list/this-california-bill-will-make-electric-cars-way-less-pretentious/ If passed, the bill would phase out the state’s current clean-vehicle rebate ($2,500 for an electric car) for people who can probably afford a clean car even without help from the government ... A family

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-14 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Well, Martin, I see it a little differently - and no offense :) I don't know how aware the typical buyer of an SUV or truck is about general cost of petroleum and its effects on terrorist groups and corruption, etc. Surely some are, some aren't. I think the real issue, however, is the choice

Re: [EVDL] 270.224 mph at Bonneville

2014-09-15 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Well, I've been on the TGV. Not quite the same sitting position, though. Awesome, Bill, Eva, & team! Peri -- Original Message -- From: "EVDL Administrator via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 15-Sep-14 12:03:07 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] 270.224 mph at Bonneville OK, no

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design (and fossil free)

2014-09-15 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Actually, in the big picture it is true - EVs consume fossil fuels. Even if all the power to operate them comes from solar, please consider: - energy to design and manufacture the vehicle, - energy and materials to provide charging infrastruture (i.e. your solar panels) - energy and materials

Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China

2014-09-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I'll add my 2 cents. I remember the endless email threads about the fouled Thundersky purchase, years back. I think that showed how difficult it can be to import something from another country where you have little protection or recourse if something goes wrong. Particularly with China where

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Lawrence, Have you looked at thermoelectric generators? I just did a precursory look and there are some products available but I'm not sure how they compare in terms of cost and density with solar. However, cars are great at trapping heat and that gives and alternative (or combination?) way

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV.

2014-09-27 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think the main problem with hub motors is the unsprung weight. That is, the motor is adding weight to the wheel and that weight has to go up and down with every bump in the road. If it doesn't, the wheel will bounce off the roadway which means less traction and control. In this case, the m

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I was siding with Tesla until reading this response. That really resonates with me but there's a catch. Does anyone know what agreement you sign when you buy a Tesla? In particular, does it give Tesla the right to disable the car after an accident at their discretion? If not, I think Tesla

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yes, but again, it depends on what the buyer signed. For example, with software, the licensing agreements usually state that you do not own the software but only have the right to use it which can be terminated under certain conditions. Tesla could have included similar language. Ethical or

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Sent: 02-Oct-14 8:35:46 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video) On Oct 2, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Yes, but again, it depends on what the buyer signed. For example, with software, the licensing agreements usually

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Here's another point of view. Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle but the ability to charge. Regardless of the range, at some point you will have to charge. If such places are easy to come by and charging doesn't take long, it's not a big deal. For example, if

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I like what you suggest, David, but with some minor changes. I think it's too much to restrict EVDL to BEVs. Rather, let's leave open the possibility of using supercaps or other methods of storing electricity, e.g. a flywheel (I admit, this is unlikely to get anywhere) or even a fuel cell (al

Re: [EVDL] Charter change?

2014-11-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think you're right, Ben, but I don't think that plug-in hybrids should be part of the charter. If someone wants to ask questions or discuss how to add EV capabilities to an existing vehicle (ICE or hybrid or whatever), that's fine. But I don't want to see discussions on the merits of hybri

Re: [EVDL] OT: status> the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think the solution will be much more boring than that. As battery capacity increases and charge time decreases, we'll simply see filling stations morph to charging stations. Status quo. I'm sure people will continue to charge at home if they're able. The rest will use "filling" stations.

[EVDL] nanocarbon effects on environment?

2014-12-11 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
From a technological point of view, nanocarbons are providing for incredible new products from batteries to textiles. However, I've seen nothing about their long term effects on the environment. What will happen as more and more products containing nanocarbons end up in the soils, rivers, and

Re: [EVDL] Peukert # with Lithium Batteries

2014-05-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Very straight forward, Lee. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: 08 May, 2014 6:56 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Peukert # with Lithium Batteries Man, this Peukert stuff is still confusing people!

Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining

2014-05-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
It's long been a big complaint - the guess-o-meter - across many forums. Nissan made some improvements, supposedly, but I completely agree with your preference. I do my own range calculations. They aren't very accurate either but at least I know my basis. I have a general idea on the miles/kwh (

Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining

2014-05-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
That's a good point and I admit to doing the same. However, it's still pretty useless for its intended purpose :) -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of David Ladd via EV Sent: 08 May, 2014 10:59 AM To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subject: Re: [

Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining

2014-05-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
If only, in their focus groups, they had asked the question: would you rather have an accurate remaining-kwh meter or an fairly inaccurate remaining-miles meter? Peri -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: 09 May, 2014 8:21 AM To:

Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining

2014-05-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
hicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > If only, in their focus groups, they had asked the question: would you > rather have an accurate remaining-kwh meter or an fairly inaccurate > remaining-miles meter? But most of the people in the foc

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lexus' Anti-Plugin hev Ad, then an unacceptable apology

2014-05-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Well, that's kind of to be expected from Lexus-Toyota. They did their experiment with the early Rav4 and since then have entrenched into building hybrids, albeit excellent ones. They are showing every indication of that entrenchment with their minimal Rav4 redo and lack of any other EV developmen

Re: [EVDL] How I learned to stop worrying and love autonomous-driving & wireless-charging

2014-05-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think they (Toyota in particular) is afraid they cannot sell enough BEVs to meet the mandates (personally, I doubt that). Probably they perceive customers wanting something with more-or-less equivalent range and fueling times as ICE vehicles. So, losses or not, they are moving in that direction

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring

2014-05-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
At the time I bought my Leaf, the i-miev was only slightly cheaper (once you factored-in quick charge and maybe something else - I can't remember). I thought given roughly the same price that since the Leaf could carry 5 passengers, had a bit more range, and a bit more torque, it was the better de

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring

2014-05-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Thanks for your reference data. We do have a milder climate in Seattle but the tradeoff is you need to run defrost - so heat and A/C are on. And often the windshield wipers and lights. On the highway (up to 55-60mph) the Leaf does quite well. It sucks in city driving, which is mostly what I do.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: "Electrified" Corvette next year

2022-04-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
The Ionic does look very good. I particularly like that the base model has the same battery - and range - as the top model. The charge time is very good, too. It's true, the selection and choices keep getting better. https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/ioniq-5/compare-specs I would like

Re: [EVDL] Moore’s law, silicon carbide, or SiC & Tesla

2022-05-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
thanks. that was interesting. << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "cleanair--- via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "clean...@sbcglobal.net" Sent: 16-May-22 13:31:21 Subject: [EVDL] Moore’s law, silicon carbide, or

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-18 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I tried the timed charging a long time ago. Bad idea. If you set it to charge overnight, for example, but need to go out in the afternoon after a morning drive, you'll be in trouble ! That is, you have to reprogram the damned thing each time you want to charge. There's no way (at least that I'm

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Here's one of the reasons Tesla is better: lower drag coefficient. Why does that matter ? At freeway speeds that means more range per kWh. And that means a smaller battery to be competitive. And that means less weight, which also increases range. Cd Tesla 3: 0.23 Tesla Y: 0.23 Tesla X: 0.24 S

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I agree. It's all subjective, of course. On the other hand, i think the real question is "when." Without Musk, I'm certain EVs would have eventually become a commercial product. But compare this to the reduction in working at the office and shopping in physical stores. Before COVID, the trend w

Re: [EVDL] Gmail warning (list business)

2022-05-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
For what it's worth, I pay for my own hosting, which costs a modest annual fee. No notable missed email and I have access to stuff quarantined by the spam filter. The company I use is MDD Hosting. Very good prices and the best tech support I've experienced. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? h

Re: [EVDL] Gmail warning (list business)

2022-05-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
scussion List" Sent: 25-May-22 08:42:49 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Gmail warning (list business) On 25 May 2022 at 14:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: For what it's worth, I pay for my own hosting, which costs a modest annual fee. That's a good strategy. You don't always get wh

Re: [EVDL] new topics (Why people dislike Tesla)

2022-05-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
you're right. In most cases, there's probably a commercially built EV that will meet one's desires. Conversions are generally not worth the cost or work. (Although I still consider converting my ancient honda odyssey, since no one is making an EV minivan that's useful for hauling lots of stuff

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
May-22 00:34:52 Subject: Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch On Fri, 20 May 2022 at 19:50, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Here's one of the reasons Tesla is better: lower drag coefficient. Why does that matter? You seem to be under the impression that a lower Cd equals lower drag. You might want t

Re: [EVDL] new topics (Why people dislike Tesla)

2022-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
akes away too much from payload space. They’ve said something like “we get paid for moving packages, not batteries”. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone On May 28, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: you're right. In most cases, there's probably a commercially bui

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

2022-05-30 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
There's only one other person I can think of who has successfully and divisively attained such a level of celebrity. But, to be clear, I appreciate what Musk has done for EVs. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Dennis

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: DC plans (accidental) EV tax

2022-06-13 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yes, it will apply to EVs. On the other hand, battery densities are increasing so this should be relatively short lived. Plus, the collective effect across states will be to encourage that acceleration. On the other hand, I know how you feel, it will temporarily discourage EV sales. But compar

[EVDL] Automakers ask Congress to lift electric vehicle tax cap

2022-06-13 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
By Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) — Major automakers are asking Congress to lift the cap on how many people can receive tax credits for buying a hybrid or fully electric vehicle. In a letter to leaders of the Senate and House of Representatives on Monday, the chief executives of Ford, Toyota

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla price increases

2022-06-17 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
With high gas prices, EV demand and prices sure have gone up. The Bolt is a pretty amazing price. I remember reading a year or two ago that the Bolt has a level 3 charging issue where the charge rate slows way down after about 50% (I don't remember the details). Net effect, "fast" charging sti

Re: [EVDL] 1000 x solar break through.

2022-06-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I have no idea about the chemistries and technologies presented in the article. But one thing for certain: current efficiency is around 20%. The best possible would be 100%, which of course is never achievable. Even that would be "only" a factor of 5, not 1000. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers

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