jerry freedomev via EV wrote:
I've used for many EVs just a 2" length of solid copper wire sized
right for the load [as a fuse]. Higher voltage, use longer. Using SS bolt/nuts
as terminals and support with distance and something to catch the
molten metal if it blows.
That works! :-) A fuse is i
Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
I use temperature dependent protective devices using metal loaded wax which
opens the circuit when the unit gets hot
These are one-time thermal fuses. They do indeed get used in battery
packs etc. But they are generally not replaceable -- once they blow, you
are exp
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
I'm building a small 7 cell pack with two strings (14 total) of Nimh
4ah. I'll be using a generic 10 buck charger designed for 7 cells.
350 ma. I need to protect the pack. Is there a specific Thermistor
that triggers at the right voltage to protect the pack?
You do
KenA via EV wrote:
The maximum amperage of my system is 500 and it typically doesn't exceed 300.
Would studs and lugs usually work for that?
The studs are meant for golf carts, that only draw around 75 amps
average, and peaks of maybe 200 amps for a few seconds. I have tried
using the studs i
Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
Interesting, but I think I have seen similar "inventions" before
"The Wizard of Speed and Time" movie by Mike Jitlov (1979) had a
briefcase car. It was in fact a working prop, although not as fast as
the movie makes it appear.
--
I do not waste my life in fric
KenA via EV wrote:
...I think my use pattern may be the real culprit here.
My commute is now 15 miles of mostly highway travel - typically at 55mph.
It's not uncommon for me to be pulling 200+ amps for extended periods of
time. From what I'm hearing, FLA in any configuration may not be a good
opt
brucedp5 via EV wrote:
http://www.udel.edu/udaily/2014/may/electric-school-bus-052814.html
Electric school buses that power grid could save school districts millions
An interesting idea. But it all hinges on the utilities actually being
willing to PAY a fair price for the power they take. So f
Jay Summet via EV wrote:
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I have an S-10 electric conversion with 20 6 Volt golf cart batteries.
They have studs. I am on my 2nd set of batteries and haven't melted
any lead or had any studs pull out.
Excellent! That says it can work, if everything
Thos True via EV wrote:
Roderick Wilde drew up a basic design for a similar concept in the late
'90s after traveling through airports...
I remember those discussions. I suggested a motorized suitcase, and even
got a fiberglass transit case to experiment with. The idea was to have a
piece of l
brucedp5 via EV wrote:
Because a 'normal' mobility scooter was such a hassle to make happen and tow
around using my sedan... I found...
https://www.google.com/search?q=mobility+foldable&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ffuNU9LaFtbooAT86ILIDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg&biw=675&bih=638
But, all that research is n
This one set off my BS detector:
brucedp5 via EV wrote:
For a truer look at what it costs to own an gas-powered vehicle versus a
volt guzzler, we'll use The "True Cost To Own" feature at car education
source Edmunds.com.
Car: 2014 Nissan Leaf | 2014 Nissan Versa Note
True Cost to Own: $35,363 |
Willie2 via EV wrote:
I bought my Leaf with no great battery concern... After two years, I
was extremely disappointed to find that the Leaf battery would no
longer carry me where I needed to go. Though my range decreased over
30%, Nissan refused to fix it, saying "the battery is fine"... If
they
Here's an interesting idea (sorry for the long URL):
http://powerelectronics.com/blog/thermogalvanic-process-converts-low-temp-waste-heat-electricity?NL=PET-01&Issue=PET-01_20140604_PET-01_786&YM_RID=leeah...@earthlink.net&YM_MID=1469693&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1_b
"Since the voltage of recharg
Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
V2G is a type of backfeeding; 120v L1 outlets protected by GFCIs
probably won't work very well for this, but dedicated 120v outlets
exempt from upstream GFCI could.
No, a GFCI won't care if you are backfeeding power through it. All a
GFCI does is compare the hot and
Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
Schneider Electric says some kinds of GFCI breakers are not backfeed
friendly and can in fact damage them:
http://static.schneider-electric.us/docs/Circuit%20Protection/0900DB1001.pdf
---start quote---
These circuit breakers are distinctive in that they have a white
“
Robert E CIV USNA Annapolis Bruninga via EV wrote:
V2G will never be practical unless vehicles are plugged in all day.
And if they are pluggedin all day, then they only need 120v L1 15 amp
service.
I agree! I just can't see how high-power V2G can be much more than a
scheme to extract money as
Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
I am assisting someone to design a light 3-wheel EV that should be able
to run city speeds,
no more than 40 MPH is needed and the weight will probably be under 1000
lbs (plus occupants).
Not very aerodynamic but that should not be a problem at these speeds.
I hav
Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
You wouldn't even need a central instruction. It could be the same V2G
electronics, but only one way. That is, when there's a dip in voltage
charging decreases. The bigger the dip, the more the charge shuts down.
I suppose it could also react to spikes and absorb ex
Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
My FIRST piece of advice is charging stations need to be "supervised."
Vandalism is a crime. Go to the Police and swear out a complaint .
Luckily, it's getting easier to install security cameras. They can
gather evidence. Unfortunately, it still rarely leads to an ar
Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote:
BTW, I finally found a press release from someone other than Qualcomm
Halo - claiming 97.4% efficiency.
I'll believe it when I see it. It's essentially impossible to build a
*transformer* that's 97.4% efficient at this power level -- let alone
the conversion lo
Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
I doubt that the two achievements coincide... they probably
were able to push 22kW across an inductive link (at much greater loss
than the claimed 2.6%) and the claimed efficiency is only for the
inductive power transmission, and does not take into account any
elect
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
Kaboom goes the cell!
What kind of charger was being used? Why didn't it notice that the cell
voltage was high, and shut down early?
Some commercial chargers are amazingly stupid. I have a cordless drill
with nimh batteries. Its charger blindly charges for 2 ho
"switching to EV's for commuting does nothing to solve congestion..."
Rick Woodbury's Tango EV does. See www.commutercars.com
The Tango is a 4-wheel car that's only 3 feet wide and 8 feet long. It's
the same size as a motorcycle. Four of them can park in the same parking
place that holds just
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
I can see that my original statement was confusing. What I meant was that
for the same conductor and same I^2R loss, DC can deliver nearly 40% more
power because the DC line can operate at the PEAK voltage rating of the
line, whereas the AC line only delivers that
brucedp5 via EV wrote:
EVLN: Local Motors Will Build& Deliver The 1st 3D-Printed EV @IMTS 2014
Funny, Urbee claims the same thing. I'm sure there are others. Do *any*
of the companies that claim "world's first..." bother to check history
before making their claims?
http://www.popularmechan
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I
can't understand why not. Anyone with other (I hope more positive)
information please post it.
I have some information on this regarding the US Postal Service's efforts.
The Post Offic
Rick Beebe via EV wrote:
On 06/29/2014 03:57 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I
can't understand why not. Anyone with other (I hope more positive)
information please post it.
David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Admi
jerry freedomev via EV wrote:
lithiums... BMS... composites...finally makes long range EVs
viable at a reasonable cost. The FreedomEV has the weight,
space, and capacity for 450-500 mile range if I wanted to...
But probably stick with under 150 miles to save weight, cost...
I agree. Just becau
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
I don't see the benefit in driving an EV M-F and add an ICE range extender
to it on the weekend, if the range extender's emissions are 10x that of the
ICEV I'm replacing - or more.
IMO it's better to own an EV, and rent a small ICEV for those longer trips;
or tak
Hi gang,
I've been adding content to the Sunrise EV website in an effort to make
it more useful. I just added documentation on the Henney Kilowatt
rectactor controller (the earliest solid-state controller that I know of).
I'm no web designer, so I stick with simple HTML4 for everything to kee
Electric Blue auto convertions via EV wrote:
Lee, that looks like a Clark/Hyster contactor board fork lifts used
in the 60s and 70s. I have a Clark E500 fork lift service manual, It
looks the same, The Clark/hyster has field weaking,
The Henneys were built in 1959. Only about 100 were made, but
Many thanks to everyone for checking out the page! I'm delighted to see
that HTML4 still seems to work. I was worried that the web had evolved
past it (the way my ASCII artwork can no longer be displayed on many
people's computers). :-(
Lawrence Harris wrote:
Getting requirements to meet WCAG 2.
Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote:
I've just spent an entire week working with the standard
responsible for this, so all of this is VERY fresh in my mind. :)
Excellent! I'm delighted to see your company thinks it is important.
Though, I still worry about "unintended consequences".
When I was wo
From: Martin WINLOW
> Not wanting to shoot your work down but I am reminded of (I think it was)
> Lee's idea of using
> an auto engaging charger connection which would be much more efficient, much
> cheaper and only
> marginally less practical.
It was actually Bob Rice's solution (although the i
From: Peri Hartman via EV
>Me, too. However, consumers might not care (unfortunately). In other
>words, you might pay 15% more to cover losses but compared to what?
>Consumers will be happy to just park and have the charge happen
>automatically. Unless energy costs are really high, they wil
From: Martin WINLOW
> It's not just convenience. There is the issue of theft/vandalism of/to
> charging cords
> and the (small) danger to passers by posed by them i.e. the trip hazard.
> They'll also
> wear out in time. The inductive system removes all these problems.
Maybe. Everything hinges on
From: Dennis Miles
> at what cost? Are we going to replace a $50 wire with a $2,000 wireless?
Yes. :-/ As long as "someone else pays" for that $2000 wireless setup and the
extra electricity it uses, consumers will fall for it. Of course, it is usually
the consumer that pays, whether he realizes
From: Peri Hartman
> Is it possible to use multiple coils to focus the "beam"?
Magnetic fields are devilishly difficult to direct or focus.
With electricity, we have great conductors (copper, silver, etc.) and great
insulators (air, plastics, etc.) There are *many* orders of magnitude
differenc
From: George Tyler
>I have done a lot of transformer and inductor design over the years, always
>said "you can't focus or direct a magnetic field", apart from ordinary
>magnetic materials of course. On day I found something that someone had put
>together on the web: He pointed out that if you have
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
brucedp5 wrote:
In Tesla’s defense, Straubel says that the current 120-kW Supercharger
“seemed pretty crazy even 10 years ago” when conventional chargers delivered
under 10kW. So, maybe this theoretical 720 kW Supercharger is possible…in
time.
But what’s the work-around
Roland via EV wrote:
One day I was in the checkout lane at Wal Mart and had the whole shopping cart
fill with 1 gallon jugs of distill water that was on sale. A guy said, what do
you use all that water for? I said, I run my car on this water. Add it to a
secret solution of H2S04 and Ionize
Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
Because, Marion, the fool cell gives the least pollution at the vehicle.
(And the manufacturers want the carbon credits, and Is, I have been told,
the refining or conversion, of methane to hydrogen, is done in an
unregulated location, not in the motor vehicle.)
Exactl
Michael K Johnson via EV wrote:
I got lots of useful help here on my lawn tractor conversion project —
Glad we could be of help. Congratulations on getting the "EV grin" while
mowing the lawn! :-)
silly idea that I could fit everything under the existing hood and it
would look the same, jus
Sean Korb via EV wrote:
Is this (softball question here) because the aluminum terminals start to
oxidize in the atmosphere and the sandpaper takes that light (but very
tough and durable) corrosion off? This corrosion would add significant
resistance to the battery terminals.
Right in one! :-)
Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
Bill, You are right copper oxide is a "Semi-conductor," and it was used in
battery chargers 100 years ago, as rectifiers. But whereas I was a bit
strong in calling it an insulator, As it passes current in only one
direction, I would not call it a very good conductor eit
Michael Ross wrote:
In air, aluminum oxide forms nearly instantly. Therefore, sanding
is a useless activity, if the goal is to remove aluminum oxide...
You're right; aluminum oxide forms very quickly. However, the longer it
is exposed to air, the thicker the insulating layer gets. So cleaning
Michael Ross via EV wrote:
I can't for the life of me figure out why a highly resistive dielectric
grease (mentioned by others) is a better choice than a conductive grease...
The grease is only filling the gaps (asperities) between the two metals.
There is no grease at the contact points -- it
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
Thanks, Jerry. A 200+ mile BEV Ghia certainly sounds like a fantastic
car...
The Ghia happened to have several attractive attributes for an EV. It
was very light, it was reasonable aerodynamics, and enough room for
batteries. John Bryan's Ghia was one example. He caref
jerry freedomev via EV wrote:
[Is the Mustang with the low VIN number a V8?] it's far better just
to keep it original to retain it's future value. When the economy
gets better it'll be very desirable.
This is a dilemma I run into all the time. Older simpler cars make
better EVs and are easier
Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
One more idea, to confuse you even more :)
You could drop the tranny and keep the ICE. That tranny is rather long
and there may be room in the space to put a large motor and a generator
without modifying the tunnel. The generator would charge the battery or
directly ru
Willie2 via EV wrote:
Here is a cautionary tale of conversions and air conditioning...
Ouch! It sounds like the guys doing your conversion are learning "on the
job". :-( Let's see: Are these the takeaways from your experiences?
- Be sure there is sufficient belt wrap (looks like 120 degrees
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
I've thought about adding insulation for both thermal efficiency
and road noise reduction
Insulation helps in both of these respects. Cars are *woefully* badly
insulated. Insulation has a major effect on how much energy you'll need
to heat or cool it.
You can run the
Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
David, and others, the most fragile part, of a series DC motor, is the
commutator. And that is, because the copper segments are glued to an
insulating core. When the current is flowing, the segments heat up and
soften the glue, then they are subjecting to "lifting," awa
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
Ben, autos stopped using chain or belt drives 80 years ago ...
Well, lots of cars still have timing chains. They last longer than
belts. :-)
--
We cannot waste time. We can only waste ourselves.
-- George Matthew Adams
--
Lee Hart's EV projects are at
expecting the car to plug itself into a wall outlet / cable is asking a
bit much.
I can easily imagine a robot arm that can reach out, find and connect to some
contacts mounted somehow on the front license plate area.
That's a lot of moving parts to break, especially considering how many peo
Michael K Johnson via EV wrote:
Cor,
How many turns did you wind? I'm assuming you removed the center
portion of the EI in order to get a rectangular shape?
Yes, you need to remove the magnetic shunts. These are rectangular
blocks of laminations tack-welded into the space between the primary
Danpatgal via EV wrote:
I have on my to-do list to clean up the connections. With the BMS modules on
there it's just a pain and I have to be very careful (I know - if I had done
it at the beginning ...).
You can measure the resistance of the connections without taking them
apart. Then only cl
Maybe the Livewire is just the tip of the spear in a Harley attempt to
expand to new markets?
Bruce EVangel Parmenter via EV wrote:
You may have something there. HD has a history of doing that with
varying degrees of success. You have to give them credit for having the
nards to do that.
After
Martin WINLOW via EV wrote:
What, as a matter of interest, is an acceptable amount of resistance in a
battery or cell terminal connection? MW
It depends on the current, how long it has to carry it, and how large
and effective the terminals are at radiating the heat produced.
But in general
Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
Depends on your current. Typically I would say in the order of
magnitude of 0.1 mOhm (milliOhm) because a 300A current will then
give 30mV drop, which produces 300A x 0.03V = 9 Watt of power loss
as heat.
Martin WINLOW via EV wrote:
At EVERY connection? In a 120
Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
To take this to a traction pack, I would want to try a similar design
where strings of cells are spot welded in parallel for the desired
current load. As I understand it, you can put as many in parallel as you
want and control them with a single BMS unit.
Well... Ther
Michael Ross via EV wrote:
Is it easy to create exactly 10 amps? (not rhetorical)
Don't many chargers vary a good bit depending on the load the work into?
In which case, you need to have a second instrument for the current
measurement, and it needs to be sufficiently accurate and steady.
I meas
Jay Summet via EV wrote:
The eSamba guy is using a piece of "fuse wire" to each cell, so that
if a single cell shorts out, the fuse wire blows...
That's a good plan. Do you know how he tested it, to be sure the fuse
wire is sized right to actually work?
--
The principal defect in a storage ba
Jay Summet via EV wrote:
Why not pressure fit? ...Flashlights do it all the time...
Think about how many times you've had bad connections and flickering
light, had to shake it or clean the contacts to get it to work.
You can make a good electrical connection with pressure alone, but it
tak
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
once I started driving it, I realized I hardly ever used the
brakes... the amount from regen is not worth it (I am going on the
assumption that regen in DC traction motors causes undue arcing of
the commutator...)
A DC motor needs to be designed with regen in mind. The o
Jan Steinman via EV wrote:
I have a friend who owns a motor service/rewinding shop. He says it
would be cost-prohibative to do so, if you had to pay someone to do
it.
I'm sure that would be the case. If shop time is $100/hour and it took 4
hours, the rewind would cost $400. Nobody will pay that
From: Lee Hart via EV
>When you increase the voltage, you reduce the current proportionately.
>I.e. a 12v 100amp alternator becomes a 120v 10amp alternator. Rather
>than use the special oddball automotive diode packages, just bring out
>the 3 phase wires, and use an external brid
From: Chris Tromley
>Not liking the efficiency hit, but still an interesting idea.
Like any hybrid, you lose efficiency at the peak; but regain it during other
modes of operation. If you spend enough time in these other modes, then your
overall efficiency improves.
I'm no expert, but I suspec
From: Cor van de Water
>Like so many other EV'ers, we have found the semi-ideal solution in
>having an EV (rather short range, but I can manage over 95% of my trips
>fine) in addition to the Prius which is my wife's favorite car.
>Everybody happy.
Same here. EV for short trips, Prius for long ones
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
Obviously, a car that's superior (and actually used) for 85% of driving should
be considered the primary car -- even if such a car generally isn't an option
as the only car for a single-car family.
That's generally how I've been using my EVs for 30+ years. It's my
prima
From: Peter C. Thompson
>In any case, as long as surplus copper can bring in some cash, there
>will always be cable theft.
Then make the wire out of something else. Aluminum, or even steel.
I had problems with the neighbor cutting the perimeter wire for my Robomower
(which is an EV, so it's on-
From: Cor van de Water
>Ehhh - the *internal* wiring of an EVSE, how can that be a standards
>thing?
>Who cares if the charging cable has copper, steel or aluminum wiring, as
>long as it meets the current spec (and possibly the max resistance if
>that is important (voltage drop)?
Cor, perhaps you
Lots of great comments on this thread.
I think it boils down to thieves steal the wire because it is easy. Nobody's
watching, it's easy to cut the present cables, and it's easy to sell the copper
for fast money.
So the solutions come down to a) better surveillance, b) making it harder to
steal
tomw via EV wrote:
EVSE availability varies greatly with area of the country.
That's for sure. Where we live, there's an EVSE at the Nissan dealer in
St. Cloud MN (about 10 miles away). Beyond that, the next one is in
Brooklyn Park MN, (65 miles away). When we test drove a Nissan Leaf, 2/3
o
Does this fuse have a flat blade at each end with a hole in it for a
bolt? I usually mount this kind of fuse on these:
http://www.waytekwire.com/products/1439/Junction-Blocks/
They are basically a plastic block with a stud embedded in it. The block
can be attached to a chassis, and the stud is
Jan Steinman via EV wrote:
Yea, I forgot the part where I put the whole thing inside a section of
fiberglass cross-country ski pole. That should contain the shrapnel, and I
shrink-wrap the fiberglass to the main conductor, which hopefully keeps it from
contacting ground.
Have you tried testi
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
Now here is where my cynical side rebuts my optimistic side. :-\ I
wonder if this wouldn't just end up much like the "flexible fuel"
vehicles sold for the last several years... I can see many of these
PIHs running most or all of the time on gasoline, just like the
Steve Clunn via EV wrote:
I am working on some Golf Carts and portable 12V power packs that get used
sporadically and may sit for months without use.
I have contactor on one 12V and 36V that draws about 1 amp. The problem
is, if everything is happy, the Mini BMS Circuit keeps the contactor ON.
Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
Since this is used for charging - you might be able to cut the wire
from the contactor that feeds it from the aux battery and instead,
connect the power to the contactor coil from a small 12V supply powered
by the charging AC, so it only powers up when actually char
Steve Clunn via EV wrote:
One of my problems with the setup that I have is that the Contactor is for
both driving and Battery Charging, so, the Contactor ends up being ON
almost all of the time.
One solution of course, would be to have the charging circuit separate from
the Load Circuit and I co
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
“What? The heater in your gas guzzler is reducing your gasoline range by
over 70%. And not only that, you can’t even turn all that wasted heat
off! All you can select to do is either vent the heat into the cabin in
the winter, or blow it under the car all the rest
via EV wrote:
So my basic question is if the cell is already Al to Steel
internally, might it be better to go Al to Steel to Al (that last Al
being my intercell connectors) than to do Al to Steel to Cu (which
would be copper intercell connectors)?
What little I know about metallurgy tells me th
The tragedy of the commons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
How many ecologically minded small car drivers does there have to be to
make up for the excesses of the large ones?
There is a field of study called Fuzzy Logic (silly name; serious
topic). Normal boolean logic assu
via EV wrote:
I might well be fighting a losing battle, but for the price of 4 holes in a
strip of material it has been a great education.
Tonight I tested the different alloys of Al idea.
Last time, 0.02 x 1.75 in strip of roof flashing aluminum:
~120 F temperature rise in ~15 seconds, cross
It's been a number of years, but I participated in a group buy from Thundersky.
Basically, they shipped us floor sweepings; rejects, old stock, and junk.
You need to understand that Chinese businesses are not bound by any of the
legal protections and ethics of US firms. Many of them take full ad
John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
So, now that my Electric F-250 is fully functional with it's Leaf batteries,
I've been driving it more.
One of the odd things I have to deal with is that my other vehicle is a nearly
identical truck that is Diesel.
So, on the freeway with the Diesel (which I've been
George Tyler via EV wrote:
Why not just buy the link plates that headway sell, made for the purpose.
Get the cell mounts at the same time?
Are these just a flat bar that bolts directly between cells. If so,
that's not a good way to do it.
The cells will move slightly due to road bumps and vi
Marcus Reddish via EV wrote:
Are these the old white Thunder sky cells that failed? Seem to remember a
picture of them leaking. Is it possible folks charged those early cells
like they were lead and caused (or contributed to) the failures? I have
not heard of any bad "batch" since the white cells
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
It was a rude awakening to me when I realized that all the Greatness of an
EV to solve all our problems does not apply to congestion...
How about if the EV is Rick Woodbury's Tango (see www.commutercars.com)?
This is a car the size of a motorcycle; 1/4th the size
>> The other potential problem is *not* having a differential. With a
>> mechanical differential, one wheel is allowed to turn faster than
>> the other. When going around corners. With hub motors, that process
>> will have to be done electronically.
With one controller and two DC motors, each dr
Ben Goren via EV wrote:
http://www.resilience.org/stories/2012-10-25/electric-velomobiles-as-fast-and-comfortable-as-automobiles-but-80-times-more-efficient
Thanks, Ben! This is an excellent article on the strengths, weaknesses,
and challenges in very light human-electric hybrid vehicles.
So
Byron James via EV wrote:
Yikes - the GBS specs call out max continuous discharge <3C. I would be
careful pulling 5C. A Local GBS distributor destroyed, within a month,
GBS cells charging and discharging GBS cells at 3C...
I tested 16 GMS-LFMP100AH cells. I found two bad ones as delivered
(sig
Lee Hart via EV wrote:
I tested 16 GMS-LFMP100AH cells...
Correction; should be GBS-LFMP100AH cells.
--
Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several
thousand things that won't work. -- Thomas A. Edison
--
Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/L
Bill Dube via EV wrote:
I can think of no modern commercial appliances that require that neutral be at
ground potential.
Pretty much all gas furnaces, water heaters, electric stoves, and other
appliances that "prove" flame before they will open the main gas valve.
The gas pipe is always grou
Collin Kidder via EV wrote:
If you purchase something (and you do get a title when you buy a car)
then it is yours. What you do with it is no longer the company's
problem.
I agree with Collin. He bought it; it's his to do with as he likes.
Tesla can choose to help (by supplying parts, offering
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
This is laughable. Sure the car is yours to do anything you want with.
But when you want to go ask Tesla to "activate it", then guess what, you
are ASKING for help from someone who has a very valid reason not to want to
take the risk to HELP you with YOUR salvage
Russ Sciville via EV wrote:
I can understand why Tesla are a bit twitchy about people re-building accident
damaged cars as the main cell pack under the floor could be damaged.
No, it's not surprising. But *all* car companies have had the same
worries since time immemorial. For that matter, an
via EV wrote:
I gave myself an idea. Fill the battery boxes with a fluid. If the fluid is
leaking after a wreck, the battery boxes have been compromised, so the car
shouldn't be driven.
That's not a bad idea. Batteries also need heating and cooling. Fluids
are a good way to add or remove hea
Klaus via EV wrote:
It's been going for a long, long time. To mention just a few: [snip]...
It's just a game of cat and mouse.
A great summary, Klaus. And the cat has all the teeth and claws (money,
lawyers and lobbyists).
You'll notice that car companies have gotten a lot smarter in dealing
Cruisin via EV wrote:
Using a meter to turn off a charger at a pre-programmed voltage
can be very risky.
Paul Dove wrote:
>> Problem is no one has actually proved that with experimentation.
>> Not in any of my reading. You can believe what ever you like.
>>
>> I have used ammeter for 2 years n
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