Lee Hart via EV wrote:
Though I might add that form has not followed function in
automobiles for a very long time. They are all about styling and
cost. The internals reflect good science and engineering, but the
bodies are almost 100% styling.
Willie via EV wrote:
I can't completely agree with
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
On 9 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Willie via EV wrote:
From what little I know of CCars, I would say that the most horrible,
overwhelming weakness is the body material that falls apart after a
few sun years.
They painted it with catalyzed acrylic enamel. That was supp
On 9 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Willie via EV wrote:
> From what little I know of CCars, I would say that the most horrible,
> overwhelming weakness is the body material that falls apart after a
> few sun years.
They painted it with catalyzed acrylic enamel. That was supposed to provide
some UV protec
Willie via EV wrote:
Yes, it was ugly, and crude, and not very reliable. Nevertheless, they
were able to find a market niche where people didn't care what it
looked like. They sold thousands of CitiCars.
Who are you calling "ugly"? :-) I accept crude and not reliable.
I'm with you, Willie! :
On 1/9/19 3:57 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
Gail Lucas via EV wrote:
Just learned a new word: hidebound. There are SO many different car
styles there must be wide preferences in appearance. Same as with
clothing, houses, even food shown on the internet in pictures of what
someone had for lunch
Gail Lucas via EV wrote:
Just learned a new word: hidebound. There are SO many different car
styles there must be wide preferences in appearance. Same as with
clothing, houses, even food shown on the internet in pictures of what
someone had for lunch and think anyone cares. Twizy and Citicar styl
On 1/9/19 12:34 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
Though I might add that form has not followed function in automobiles
for a very long time. They are all about styling and cost. The internals
reflect good science and engineering, but the bodies are almost 100%
styling.
I can't completely agree
Just learned a new word: hidebound. There are SO many different car
styles there must be wide preferences in appearance. Same as with
clothing, houses, even food shown on the internet in pictures of what
someone had for lunch and think anyone cares. Twizy and Citicar styles
are different enough
Bobby Keeland via EV wrote:
For me a battery electric vehicle does not need to look like a goofy toy.
Willie via EV wrote:
Of course, a BEV does not NEED to look any certain way. Beauty is in
the eye of the beholder. Form follows function. Certainly the
hidebound will demand certain appeara
This looked interesting when I saw it has handle bars instead of a
steering wheel. I thought it might have the brake control there, as on
bikes, was disappointed that the brakes need the floor pedal. I can't
drive because my leg won't move fast enough to hit the brake in an
emergency. Do report
I most certainly agree. There are a lot of vehicles (BEV or ICE) that I do
not like, and I wonder why so many people buy them. But all vehicles are
not made for my tastes. That is a good thing. As is said so often, variety
is the spice of life, whether you are talking people, motorcycles or cars.
A
On 1/8/19 6:26 PM, Bobby Keeland via EV wrote:
For me a battery electric vehicle does not need to look like a goofy toy.
BobK
Of course, a BEV does not NEED to look any certain way. Beauty is in
the eye of the beholder. Form follows function. Certainly the
hidebound will demand certain
09:33 PM
To: EVDL Administrator via EV
Cc: Gail Lucas
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely
frustrating
I had forgotten about the Twizy. Found this funny video of one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2z1LXbxzE
It is a car I would like but would want i
For me a battery electric vehicle does not need to look like a goofy toy.
BobK
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 6:09 PM Gail Lucas via EV I had forgotten about the Twizy. Found this funny video of one.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2z1LXbxzE
>
> It is a car I would like but would want it to be self-dri
I had forgotten about the Twizy. Found this funny video of one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2z1LXbxzE
It is a car I would like but would want it to be self-driving.
On 1/8/2019 12:04 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
I doubt that we'll ever see anything like the Renault Twizy, for exa
On 8 Jan 2019 at 13:15, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> I wonder if the USA is the wrong market for the Tango. Many other
> countries do not have our preconceived notions of what a car "must" look like.
I think you're right, to some extent. Europe and Asia are both more open to
unconventional vehicle
And perhaps like the Citicar its appearance would cause it to be seen
and not run into. Fitting into a small space for parking was another of
the features I liked a lot. Also similar to a Citicar. Some people want
just simple, safe vehicles for city driving. Teslas are wonderful but
overkill if
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
IMO, Rick's idea with the Tango was brilliant... The problem was the car's
price.
Also, people with money don't want tiny, weird cars. They want big, luxurious
cars. Elon Musk understood all this intuitively...
I'm glad he's still pursuing his dream. I hope he
IMO, Rick's idea with the Tango was brilliant. Though the car was
unconventional in appearance, I would even say weird, it was and is a
rational design that should have appealed to briliant people.
The problem was the car's price. The price sticker looked like it belonged
on an exotic sports
Paul Compton via EV wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 23:41, Gail Lucas via EV wrote:
I would like to see the
car succeed as I think safety, in addition to other features, was excellent.
I disagree, Rick's attitude was 'crumple zones are marketing hype'.
Yes, you need a strong cage to limit crus
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 23:41, Gail Lucas via EV wrote:
>
> I would like to see the
> car succeed as I think safety, in addition to other features, was excellent.
I disagree, Rick's attitude was 'crumple zones are marketing hype'.
Yes, you need a strong cage to limit crush injuries, but the human
Yes. I thought the Tango would be a really good EV for my lifestyle but
they were not readily available at an affordable price. Bit of trivia:
car was named Tango after one of the ice dances Rick did when he was
skating. Don't know if he still skates or not. I would like to see the
car succeed
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