Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Willie via EV wrote: > From what little I know of CCars, I would say that the most horrible, > overwhelming weakness is the body material that falls apart after a > few sun years. They painted it with catalyzed acrylic enamel. That was supposed to provide some UV protec

[EVDL] EVlawsuit: No car could have withstood this 116mph crash> NTSB shutdown

2019-01-09 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% ? Maybe rich parents should have spent time teaching their children right-from-wrong-behavior> obey speed limits ? % https://boingboing.net/2019/01/09/tesla-sued-for-death-of-18-yea.html Tesla sued for death of 18-year-old in car accident, defective battery blamed 2019-01-09 Reuters [image]

Re: [EVDL] Free 2000 RAV4 EV (well, sort of)

2019-01-09 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
.7621. Please leave a message as I do not pick up unsaved numbers. > > Regards, > Dex > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190109/9e0f76bf/attachment.html>

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie via EV wrote: Yes, it was ugly, and crude, and not very reliable. Nevertheless, they were able to find a market niche where people didn't care what it looked like. They sold thousands of CitiCars. Who are you calling "ugly"? :-) I accept crude and not reliable. I'm with you, Willie! :

Re: [EVDL] nissan leapfrogs in catch-up

2019-01-09 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
ttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190109/4c54f2b0/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)

Re: [EVDL] Need work space near Vallejo: RAV4 EV gen1 pack-replace

2019-01-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I can't think who would want two RAV4-EVs sans batteries. That's the most valuable (and scarce) part, no? I fear they'll end up parted out to repair ICE RAVs. I wonder if the drives could be hacked into something else. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Willie via EV
On 1/9/19 3:57 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Gail Lucas via EV wrote: Just learned a new word: hidebound. There are SO many different car styles there must be wide preferences in appearance. Same as with clothing, houses, even food shown on the internet in pictures of what someone had for lunch

[EVDL] Need work space near Vallejo: RAV4 EV gen1 pack-replace

2019-01-09 Thread brucedp5 via EV
If I understood Dex's Chris post http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Free-2000-RAV4-EV-well-sort-of-tp4692485.html If he gets the two gen1 RAV4 EVs, he needs a place near Vallejo (North-east SF area) to do the pack replacements, before transporting them to his home turf (D

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Gail Lucas via EV wrote: Just learned a new word: hidebound. There are SO many different car styles there must be wide preferences in appearance. Same as with clothing, houses, even food shown on the internet in pictures of what someone had for lunch and think anyone cares. Twizy and Citicar styl

Re: [EVDL] nissan leapfrogs in catch-up

2019-01-09 Thread Willie via EV
On 1/9/19 10:00 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: This could truly be a game changer for Nissan. I wonder if they've fixed their horrible battery degregation problems. As far as I'm concerned, Nissan has already missed the boat. Botched a golden opportunity. Any improvement is almost certain

Re: [EVDL] nissan leapfrogs in catch-up

2019-01-09 Thread Willie via EV
On 1/9/19 10:00 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: This could truly be a game changer for Nissan. I wonder if they've fixed their horrible battery degregation problems. Peri https://www.seattletimes.com/business/nissan-unveils-new-leaf-car-after-ghosns-arrest-delays-it/ The unveiling Wednesda

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Willie via EV
On 1/9/19 12:34 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Though I might add that form has not followed function in automobiles for a very long time. They are all about styling and cost. The internals reflect good science and engineering, but the bodies are almost 100% styling. I can't completely agree

Re: [EVDL] nissan leapfrogs in catch-up

2019-01-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Jan 2019 at 16:00, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I wonder if they've fixed their > horrible battery degregation problems. I don't have corroboration, but I recall reading that they're still relying solely on forced air battery cooling. The cell design may be different, though. David Rod

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
Just learned a new word: hidebound. There are SO many different car styles there must be wide preferences in appearance. Same as with clothing, houses, even food shown on the internet in pictures of what someone had for lunch and think anyone cares. Twizy and Citicar styles are different enough

[EVDL] Free 2000 RAV4 EV (well, sort of)

2019-01-09 Thread Dex's Chris via EV
nsaved numbers. Regards, Dex -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190109/9e0f76bf/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ht

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: For me a battery electric vehicle does not need to look like a goofy toy. Willie via EV wrote: Of course, a BEV does not NEED to look any certain way. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Form follows function. Certainly the hidebound will demand certain appeara

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
This looked interesting when I saw it has handle bars instead of a steering wheel. I thought it might have the brake control there, as on bikes, was disappointed that the brakes need the floor pedal. I can't drive because my leg won't move fast enough to hit the brake in an emergency. Do report

[EVDL] Unscathed ?

2019-01-09 Thread Steven Lough via EV
.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190109/ab0a5db6/attachment.vcf> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)

[EVDL] nissan leapfrogs in catch-up

2019-01-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
This could truly be a game changer for Nissan. I wonder if they've fixed their horrible battery degregation problems. Peri https://www.seattletimes.com/business/nissan-unveils-new-leaf-car-after-ghosns-arrest-delays-it/ The unveiling Wednesday at Nissan Motor Co.’s Yokohama headquarters, southw

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: aevrobotics.com lsEV.au 4auton rideshare, deliveries, waste& medical services

2019-01-09 Thread Michael Ross via EV
RIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 901-2805 Cell and Text (919) 576-0824 <https://www.g

Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Rant&Rave: not charging in an EVSE spot> extremely frustrating

2019-01-09 Thread Willie via EV
On 1/8/19 6:26 PM, Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: For me a battery electric vehicle does not need to look like a goofy toy. BobK Of course, a BEV does not NEED to look any certain way. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Form follows function. Certainly the hidebound will demand certain

[EVDL] MKBHD: EV journalism

2019-01-09 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% In the past I've posted my displeasure with some media outlets' journalists reporting their EV-ignorance and biased opinions about EVs. So, some might have mistakenly thought, 'Oh brucedp does like any of them'. I am pleased to say that the video on http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413

[EVDL] Debunking Tesla-Killers journalism

2019-01-09 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/05/accused-tesla-killers-cleared-of-all-charges/ Accused “Tesla Killers” Cleared Of All Charges January 5th, 2019 Charles Morris [images https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/files/2015/09/Audi-e-tron-concept-4.jpg Audi e-tron Quattro concept on d