Re: [Emu] EMU Charter revision

2008-02-22 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi Bernard, a question your excitment regarding strong password based EAP method. Why do you think they are useful? There are other ways (and they are deployed already) that can accomplish the same result without going along the SRP & co track. Is it because you expect performance improvement

Re: [Emu] Liaison Statement on ITU-T Recommendation X.1034

2008-08-07 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Here are a few random review comments. Section 3.2: Terminology The definition of PFS does not correspond to the crypto literature. Here is the definition from the Handbook of applied cryptography: " 12.16 Definition A protocol is said to have perfect forward secrecy if compromise of long-term k

[Emu] Comments for draft-clancy-emu-chbind-02.txt

2008-08-08 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
* When I have to introduce this work to our AAA server folks then they will obviously ask me the following question: What is the benefit and what does it cost? As you mentioned in the operational considerations section there is cost associated with updating the EAP methods, putting new information

Re: [Emu] Suggestion: draft-arkko-eap-aka-kdf-09

2008-11-10 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Yogendra, do you plan to contribute text? Ciao Hannes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext yogendra pal Sent: 11 November, 2008 08:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emu@ietf.org Subject: [Em

Re: [Emu] Comments from Hannes on draft-clancy-emu-aaapay-01.txt

2009-03-02 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi Joe, The idea of defining one payload format for carrying information in EAP methods sounds useful. Then, someone only has to define something once and it is available (at least from a specification point of view) in all EAP methods. In practice, this obviously requires code changes and the

Re: [Emu] Impersonation and Lying NAS problem: two distinctissues (with different solutions)

2009-08-18 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
There are 3 parties in the AAA/EAP exchange. Not every party is authenticated in the exchange (e.g. the NAS/AAA client is not authenticated by the EAP peer) -- there is only key confirmation taking place. The NAS can therefore report different identities to the EAP client and to the AAA server.

Re: [Emu] New Liaison Statement, "Draft revised Recommendation ITU-T X.1034, Guideline on extensible authentication protocol based authenticationand key management in a data communication network"

2009-12-10 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi Bernard, here is my guess of the background of all this work. Imagine a company has worked on strong password based authentication and key exchange protocols. That company might also believe that they have some IPRs in this field. Now, some folks in that company would like to get their

Re: [Emu] Draft response for ITU-T X.1034 liaison statement

2010-03-02 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Very nice writeup, Joe. You might want to point out to them that they can develop EAP methods and publish them as informational documents without any special reaon or new set of requirements even if other EAP methods already provide similar functionality. >-Original Message- >From: emu-

Re: [Emu] draft-cakulev-emu-eap-ibake

2012-01-11 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi Violeta, What problem are you trying to solve with this EAP method? Ciao Hannes > -Original Message- > From: emu-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:emu-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > ext Cakulev, Violeta (Violeta) > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:16 PM > To: emu@ietf.org > Subject: [E

Re: [Emu] draft-cakulev-emu-eap-ibake

2012-01-12 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
2012 5:17 PM > To: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo); emu@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Emu] draft-cakulev-emu-eap-ibake > > Hannes, > Thanks for the interest. > > IBAKE was proposed and adopted as a method for device bootstrapping in > ETSI M2M. > IBAKE is especially sui

Re: [Emu] IETF 83 agenda request: channel binding implementation

2012-02-08 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
I am looking forward to the discussion. I care about implementation specific aspects, particularly if they hide some underlying problems. > -Original Message- > From: emu-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:emu-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > ext Sam Hartman > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:33

Re: [Emu] 答复: Re: draft-cakulev-emu-eap-ibake

2012-04-10 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi Zhou, The first step is to figure out what the actual problem is. Ask yourself: Is there indeed a problem with transferring the “long” public keys (of the client, as you state below)? For the cases where I have seen EAP used so far I have not heard about these problems. I have,

Re: [Emu] 答复: Re: draft-cakulev-emu-eap-ibake

2012-04-10 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi Alan, > Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) wrote: > > Ask yourself: Is there indeed a problem with transferring the “long” > > public keys (of the client, as you state below)? > > I've seen this be a problem when the long keys require too many round > trips