Re: [Emu] Housekeeping functionality (Was: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-09.txt)

2023-08-03 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Alan I think it's good to consider what's going on on both sides here.  At the beginning, both the identity and the role of the device in a network may be unknown, and so a certain access is given.  After bootstrapping has occurred (however that happens), then both the role of the device a

Re: [Emu] Housekeeping functionality (Was: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-09.txt)

2023-08-03 Thread Alan DeKok
On Aug 3, 2023, at 4:10 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: > I think it's good to consider what's going on on both sides here. At the > beginning, both the identity and the role of the device in a network may be > unknown, and so a certain access is given. After bootstrapping has occurred > (however that

Re: [Emu] Housekeeping functionality (Was: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-09.txt)

2023-08-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Alan DeKok wrote: > I'll note that the peer can always simply stop doing EAP once it's > fully provisioned. i.e. it doesn't need to get an EAP Failure or EAP > Success from the server. However, such behavior is unfriendly to the > server. It leaves the server with a blocked E

[Emu] [IANA #1277499] expert review for draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs (eapsimaka-numbers)

2023-08-03 Thread David Dong via RT
Dear Vesa Lehtovirta (cc: emu WG), We would like to follow-up on this expert review request. As the designated expert for the Attribute Types (Skippable Attributes 128-255) registry, can you review the proposed registrations in draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-11 for us? Please see https://datatracker.i

[Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-10.txt

2023-08-03 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the EAP Method Update (EMU) WG of the IETF. Title : Tunnel Extensible Authentication Protocol (TEAP) Version 1 Author : Alan DeKok Filename: d

Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-10.txt

2023-08-03 Thread Alan DeKok
The diff is perhaps more interesting: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-09&url2=draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-10&difftype=--html * clarify terminology on inner / outer TLVs as per Eliot's suggestion * add paragraphs on resumption and provisioning as per recent d

Re: [Emu] Housekeeping functionality (Was: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-09.txt)

2023-08-03 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 11:10, Eliot Lear wrote: > I don't think EAP Failure should ever really be contemplated during a > housekeeping operation *unless* an intermediate-success is first > generated, because otherwise we can bet that at least some clients will > take that as a signal that the hous