Re: [Emu] Impersonation and Lying NAS problem: two distinct issues (with different solutions)

2009-08-18 Thread Qin Wu
It seems to me, the consistency between EAP peer and EAP Server can be caused by the Lying NAS Even this NAS is not malicious authenticator who impersonates another authenticator, this NAS should be a stupid NAS or malfunctional NAS who make a mistake for some reason. Because this NAS distribu

Re: [Emu] EAP and authorization

2009-08-18 Thread Alan DeKok
Bernard Aboba wrote: > Do we really need “IESG clarification” or a “consensus check” to verify > that IESG approval of a work item for channel bindings should be > interpreted as approval to actually work on channel bindings??? No. > Given that Channel Bindings is discussed in both RFC 3748 and

Re: [Emu] Impersonation and Lying NAS problem: two distinctissues (with different solutions)

2009-08-18 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
There are 3 parties in the AAA/EAP exchange. Not every party is authenticated in the exchange (e.g. the NAS/AAA client is not authenticated by the EAP peer) -- there is only key confirmation taking place. The NAS can therefore report different identities to the EAP client and to the AAA server.

Re: [Emu] EAP and authorization

2009-08-18 Thread Bernard Aboba
> The discussion here is (a) if we can get *some* generic authorization > passed via methods used for Channel Bindings, and (b) is that a good idea. > > I think that the answer to (a) is "yes", and (b) is "some say yes, > some say no". Existing RFCs are clear that Channel Bindings have a spe

Re: [Emu] Impersonation and Lying NAS problem: two distinctissues (with different solutions)

2009-08-18 Thread Bernard Aboba
Qin said: "Based on this, impersonation issue seems to overlap with channel binding or lying NAS issue." RFC 3748 Section 7.15 describes the distinction between the two problems: " Section 4.3.7 of [RFC3579] describes how an EAP pass-through authenticator acting as a AAA client can be det

Re: [Emu] #18 Internationalization

2009-08-18 Thread Bernard Aboba
The problem is that the internationalization language is too general. For example, Section 4.3.6 states: " Any strings sent by the server intended for display to the user MUST be sent in UTF-8 format and SHOULD be able to be marked with language information and adapted to the user's la