Re: [PSES] ethernet magnetics

2025-03-24 Thread Bill Owsley
Ethernet signalling evolution is interesting.Recent decades use differential signals among other tricks.A clean differential signal, in theory, will not have any CM component.Depending on the driver and techniques, matched to the transformer, one can get a great differential signal out of the tr

Re: [PSES] IEC 62311:2020 - human exposure restrictions for electromagnetic fields

2025-03-24 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
As I recall, the EN harmonized standards include Common Modifications which tailor the standard to fit the national requirements for member countries who insist on them. Many EN standards have no CM in their annex. UL/CSA/IEC 61010-1 is an example of an international standard which contains n

Re: [PSES] Tracking down interference at 915 MHz

2025-03-24 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
I wonder if it was a calibrated field strength measurement. Shouldn’t the units be dB(uV/m) ? I won’t consider a -37 dBm signal at the input of the EMC receiver a particularly strong signal from a nearby intentional radiator. Ralph From: Ken Wyatt Sent: March 24, 2025 10:08 AM To: EMC-PST

Re: [PSES] Tracking down interference at 915 MHz

2025-03-24 Thread Jim Bacher
Ken, I am not surprised. RFID, EAS and other items run at those frequencies Jim Bacher, WB8VSU j.bac...@ieee.org or ja.bac...@outlook.com https://www.trc.guru/ From: Ken Wyatt Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 1:08 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Tracking down interfe

Re: [PSES] ethernet magnetics

2025-03-24 Thread Brent DeWitt
As you mention, Patrick, I have also see some improvement in eye pattern fidelity with the addition of common mode magnetics on a given pair, which seems to make some sense as the core is dissipating CM energy that tends to "close up" the eye. Respectfully, Brent DeWitt - AB1LF Milford, MA On

Re: [PSES] ethernet magnetics

2025-03-24 Thread Patrick
Thanks for the comments. Passing along what I've found. From the available research, and reading as many manufacturers' data sheets as I can find, the use of the extra magnetics are non-standard. However, several places state that 12 core is beneficial to SI and EMI for 10GbEnet, but not needed

Re: [PSES] Tracking down interference at 915 MHz

2025-03-24 Thread Ken Wyatt
What really struck me was how busy the 915 MHz ISM band was utilized in an urban environment! See Figure 5 in the article. This was a swept measurement in Max Hold mode over a period of about a minute and you can see the average signal amplitude was 50 dBµV, with strong peaks from the drug store

[PSES] linkedin posts

2025-03-24 Thread doug emcesd.com
Hi All, I post quite a bit on LinkedIn, YouTube, and Odysee along technical lines. Here is a link mu LinkedIn page and articles. https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-smith-ee/just scroll down past the introductory stuff. I also post technical videos to YouTube at: @dougcsmith or https://www.y

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC 62311:2020 - human exposure restrictions for electromagnetic fields

2025-03-24 Thread John Woodgate
AS Charlie says, that IEC standard is about methods of measurement, not compliance or conformity. For Europe, you must look at the limits in the latest EN, and in the one cited in the OJEU, if different. On 2025-03-24 12:51, am...@westin-emission.no wrote: Yes, sorry, Europe .. CE marking *F

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC 62311:2020 - human exposure restrictions for electromagnetic fields

2025-03-24 Thread amund
Yes, sorry, Europe .. CE marking Fra: John Woodgate Sendt: 24. mars 2025 13:22 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] IEC 62311:2020 - human exposure restrictions for electromagnetic fields Are you asking about Europe or somewhere else? For Europe, the IEC standard may we

Re: [PSES] IEC 62311:2020 - human exposure restrictions for electromagnetic fields

2025-03-24 Thread Charlie Blackham
Amund This is a "method" standard, as per the scope: This document does not specify limits expressed by means of basic restrictions and/or reference levels. Such limits are subject to the applied assessment scheme, for example by means of regional limits. NOTE 2 The assessment methods and crit

Re: [PSES] IEC 62311:2020 - human exposure restrictions for electromagnetic fields

2025-03-24 Thread John Woodgate
Are you asking about Europe or somewhere else? For Europe, the IEC standard may well not apply, since there is a different EN. I suspect that the IEC standard may also not apply in USA. On 2025-03-24 12:15, am...@westin-emission.no wrote: Am I correct, that the 2020-version does not really co

[PSES] IEC 62311:2020 - human exposure restrictions for electromagnetic fields

2025-03-24 Thread amund
Am I correct, that the 2020-version does not really contain any maximum allowed limits for human exposure, but talks about being classified as equipment or not? I though we still could compare electromagnetic fields according to the Table no. 2 from Council Recommendation 1999/519/EC https://eur-