Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
[Redirected to emacs-tangents.] > From: Arthur Miller > CC: emacs-de...@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 05:46:37 +0200 > > Mnjah; you know as well as I, and I have written it in the very first > mail why I want Emacs in Lisp. There are already other applications and > editors inpsired by Emacs,

Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
[Redirected to emacs-tangents] > From: Gerd Möllmann > Cc: Richard Stallman , Drew Adams , > arthur.mil...@live.com, a...@muc.de, luang...@yahoo.com, > emacs-de...@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 06:38:00 +0200 > > "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > > > But it could be done. There is a technic

Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Po Lu
Eli Zaretskii writes: > [Redirected to emacs-tangents] > >> From: Gerd Möllmann >> Cc: Richard Stallman , Drew Adams , >> arthur.mil...@live.com, a...@muc.de, luang...@yahoo.com, >> emacs-de...@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 06:38:00 +0200 >> >> "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >> >> > But

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Po Lu
Arthur Miller writes: > And there is always mobsters and lynchmob that like to give shit to > other people to feel themselves better. You should be ashamed of > yourself. > > The toxic atmosphere like this is why I keep myself away from the > Emacs mailing lists in general. I posted once in about

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread chad
Now that we're in -tangets (thanks for doing that, btw)... On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:57 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > [...] And don't be afraid of losing some of the applications and the > documentation -- these should be the least of your worries. [...] > My own opinion has come around to match El

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Yuri Khan
On Wed, 13 Sept 2023 at 01:23, chad wrote: > It's also possible that there's some adaptation that will arise, perhaps > along the lines of how web workers/service worker threads interact with the > DOM in the modern browser, that keeps Emacs going even longer. Actually, as far as I understand,

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: chad > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 14:22:57 -0400 > Cc: Arthur Miller , emacs-tangents@gnu.org > > I do think that a very early step needs to be "figure out how to handle > concurrent analysis and editing > across multiple cores and perhaps machines", but that probably just reflects > a bunc

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread joakim
chad writes: > Now that we're in -tangets (thanks for doing that, btw)... > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:57 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > [...] And don't be afraid of losing some of the applications and the > documentation -- these should be the least of your worries. [...] > > My own opinion has

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.01 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 > tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=disabled > From: joa...@verona.se > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Arthur Miller , > emacs-tangents@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 21:07:41 +0200 > > - if I'm connected to

Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Arthur Miller
Eli Zaretskii writes: > [Redirected to emacs-tangents] > >> From: Gerd Möllmann >> Cc: Richard Stallman , Drew Adams , >> arthur.mil...@live.com, a...@muc.de, luang...@yahoo.com, >> emacs-de...@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 06:38:00 +0200 >> >> "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >> >> > But

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread joakim
Eli Zaretskii writes: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.01 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 >> tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=disabled >> From: joa...@verona.se >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Arthur Miller , >> emacs-tangents@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 21:07:41 +02

Re: Shrinking the C core

2023-09-12 Thread Arthur Miller
>> IMNSHO, discussing a rewrite of Emacs in _any_ language is waste of >> time and energy. We've seen this many times (because people still >> insist on bringing this up from time to time). From where I stand, >> the main reason is not even the fact that we decided not to do that, >> but the fa