[O] org-metaup / org-metadown nerfed in 7.9.1

2012-09-18 Thread Trevor Vartanoff
I updated to 7.9.1 from 7.8.11 and was quite surprised to receive nasty "Cannot drag element backward" messages when I tried to use org-metaup and org-metadown to move text around. Why was this done? How do I get back to one stroke functionality? I'm afraid I'm not properly understanding the r

Re: [O] org-metaup / org-metadown nerfed in 7.9.1

2012-09-19 Thread Trevor Vartanoff
Your explanation is useful. After some more experimenting, it looks like 7.8.11 accepts a return as the dividing line between "elements", but 7.9.1 only recognizes them as separate if there's an empty line between them. Example: if I copy the first two lines of your email, I can shift "It is

Re: [O] org-metaup / org-metadown nerfed in 7.9.1

2012-09-20 Thread Trevor Vartanoff
Thanks Anthony. Looks like that will be helpful if I ever update.

Re: [O] org-metaup / org-metadown nerfed in 7.9.1

2012-09-26 Thread Trevor Vartanoff
ound. I propose we implement an org-property value to decide which definition of "element" org-metaup should use. I'm glad to see an exception was made for node property, but that's only one of many, many problem cases. Regards, Trevor Vartanoff

Re: [O] org-metaup / org-metadown nerfed in 7.9.1

2012-09-26 Thread Trevor Vartanoff
Jonathan, I should have been more clear on what I meant by "basic", quite idiotic of me and sorry for the confusion. If you write ten words on ten lines, you can't shift things around anymore until you've put everything into an Official Orgmode Endorsed Structure of some kind. Sometimes I do

[O] Open Children of Children

2012-05-26 Thread Trevor Vartanoff
I've been using this macro on headings to open the subtree to the children of children, since org-cycle just goes "nothing -> children - everything": (fset 'och ;; Open children of children [tab tab ?\C-n M-return ?\C-b ?* ?\C-a ?\C-p tab tab ?\C-n ?\C-k ?\C-k ?\C-p]) Is there a more eleg