Re: [BUG] Many babel-stable-nnn fodlers created in folders with org files (instead of in /tmp) [9.6.1 ( @ /home/bhrgunatha/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6.1/)]

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
bhrgunatha writes: > Open emacs. > Open some .org file with src blocks in some folder /some.org > Notice a new folder called babel-stable-nnn (some randome 3 digit > number) appears in the folder containing the .org file. > > I think these should be created in my /tmp/ folder, not the folder > co

Re: Make org-paste-subtree more predictable and useful

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Philipp Kiefer writes: > Unfortunately, org-paste-subtree currently attempts to "modify the level of > the subtree to make sure the tree fits in nicely at the yank position" > [from Org Manual]. > ... > My suggestion would be to make a fundamental change to how the command > works, prioritizing d

Re: [BUG] Org-export does not updates figure path when using recursive includes [9.6 (9.6-??-bed47b4 @ /home/gpetrini/.emacs.d/.local/straight/build-28.2/org/)]

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Gabriel Petrini da Silveira writes: > *Expected behaviour*: Using recursinve includes generates a PDF file > with the respective figures. > > *Actual behaviour:* Figure only appears when not using recursive includes. Thanks for reporting! Fixed, on main. https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/

Re: [BUG] org-agenda: definition is void: org-element--cache-active-p

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
zimoun writes: > Obviously, loading org-element fixes the issue: > > $ emacs -q -l config.el --eval "(require 'org-element)" -f org-agenda > > Therefore, maybe the addition of such requirement in org-agenda.el could > be enough? Thanks for reporting! Loading should be good enough (and does n

Re: [BUG] ob-shell doesn't evaluate last line on Windows (cmd/cmdproxy) [9.6.1 ( @ c:/Users/Osher/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6.1/)]

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Matt writes: > (process-file > "cmdproxy.exe" ; > shell-file-name > "/path/to/temp/containing/block/source" ; input-file > (t "/tmp/babel jTCHe/ob-error-yHOivA"); output destination (like > call-process's DESTINATION) > nil

Re: [BUG] Many babel-stable-nnn fodlers created in folders with org files (instead of in /tmp) [9.6.1 ( @ /home/bhrgunatha/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6.1/)]

2023-01-18 Thread bhrgunatha
On 18/01/2023 16:02, Ihor Radchenko wrote: bhrgunatha writes: Open emacs. Open some .org file with src blocks in some folder /some.org Notice a new folder called babel-stable-nnn (some randome 3 digit number) appears in the folder containing the .org file. I think these should be created in m

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Tim Cross writes: >> Could you please elaborate here? > > I have some meetings scheduled in my org files which show up in the > agenda. > > Meeting 1 is a reoccurring meeting which happens every 2 weeks. All of > the people in that meting are in the same timezone as I'm in. When we > transition i

Re: [BUG] org-agenda: definition is void: org-element--cache-active-p

2023-01-18 Thread Simon Tournier
Hi, On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 09:53, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Fixed, on bugfix. > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=5d9c9c27c Cool! Thank you for the quick fix. Cheers, simon

Re: [BUG] Many babel-stable-nnn fodlers created in folders with org files (instead of in /tmp) [9.6.1 ( @ /home/bhrgunatha/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6.1/)]

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
bhrgunatha writes: >> Could you open one of the folders where babel-stable-nnn directories are >> present and then run M-: (temporary-file-directory) ? >> Is the printed output "/tmp"? Something else? >> > Opening e.g. "/mnt/data/src/learning/zig/zig_notes.org" > In the buffer visiting zig_notes.

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jean Louis writes: > ... > Should be part of C library to observe those things. Sure. My previous proposals are all relying on `encode-time' which uses time.h from system libraries and utilizing TZDB that is taking care about all this insanity. We, however, might need to be careful about applyi

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jean Louis writes: > When there is global variable for Org file about time zone, then: > > - every timestamp with time zone, shall be left intact or > re-calculated to diffrent local time zone. Imagine person giving Org > file from Russia to somebody in Florida, or travelling there. That > user o

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jean Louis writes: >> >> I am not sure what is the problem. >> >> The timestamps that should stay in local time will be automatically >> >> updated as your system TZ is updated. >> > >> > Then Org shall know what was local time! Without being specified in >> > the time stamp, it has to be specifi

Re: [BUG] Many babel-stable-nnn fodlers created in folders with org files (instead of in /tmp) [9.6.1 ( @ /home/bhrgunatha/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.6.1/)]

2023-01-18 Thread bhrgunatha
It works for me! Thank you for fixing this and so quickly too! It's much appreciated. bhrgunatha On 18/01/2023 17:07, bhrgunatha wrote: On 18/01/2023 16:02, Ihor Radchenko wrote: bhrgunatha writes: Open emacs. Open some .org file with src blocks in some folder /some.org Notice a new folde

Re: Observation of hysteresis in a GNU libc time conversion function

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: > (dt '(-90 -60 -31 -30 -29 -15 0 15 29 30 31 60 90)) This is problematic. You are putting MINUTES out of normal range. Looking at https://codecogs.com/library/computing/c/time.h/ctime.php?alias=mktime, out-of-range minutes are not documented. Also, see https://stac

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: > ... I am unsure concerning Windows, it may have an option of quite > similar variant. That is why I am not sure to which degree Org should be > liberal in respect to various time zones. May we just support whatever TZ supports (POSIX)? I was also thinking about ISO 8601,

Re: New face: org-agenda-calendar-timerange

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
gaut...@gautierponsinet.xyz writes: > Currently, the entries with a time range of the form > <2022-12-22 Thu 10:00-12:00> > use the face 'org-agenda-calendar-event'. > While the entries with time ranges of the form > <2022-12-22 Thu>--<2023-01-01 Sun>, or > <2022-12-22 Thu 12:00>--<2023-01-01 Sun

.org.bak files are in Org mode -- intended?

2023-01-18 Thread Alain . Cochard
I have noticed by chance that files with the .org.bak extension are in Org mode by default. If one does not pay attention, it can lead to mistakes. If it is really intended, why not mention it in the manual? (In 1.3, where it is said that "Files with the ‘.org’ extension use Org mode by default

Re: [PATCH 0/4] Structure editing when region is active

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Samuel Wales writes: > maybe my comment is too unrelated to the patch, but it just seemed > worth raising in the context. to me it feels wrong to have a > non-linline-task child entry whose heading is star-indented more > levels than needed to denote a child entry. > > in my own case, it suggest

Re: .org.bak files are in Org mode -- intended?

2023-01-18 Thread General discussions about Org-mode.
alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes: > I have noticed by chance that files with the .org.bak extension are in > Org mode by default. > > If one does not pay attention, it can lead to mistakes. > > If it is really intended, why not mention it in the manual? (In 1.3, > where it is said that "Files wit

Re: .org.bak files are in Org mode -- intended?

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes: > I have noticed by chance that files with the .org.bak extension are in > Org mode by default. > > If one does not pay attention, it can lead to mistakes. > > If it is really intended, why not mention it in the manual? (In 1.3, > where it is said that "Files with

Re: org-todo-keywords and task sequence

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
David Masterson writes: > What I've been saying is that, except for simple sequences, cycling will > get you into trouble with notes as a lazy person (aren't we all?) may > cycle thru something unintended. As any other Org feature, this one is useful for some people. And not useful for others. Y

Re: org-todo-keywords and task sequence

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
David Masterson writes: >> Ambiguous is: consider a task IN-PROCESS and you press S-left. Should >> Org go to TODO or to WAIT? Org will choose one, but there are no defined >> rules. > > Ah. Could Org offer a choice of TODO or WAIT (a la Ido style)? If you need that choice, just use C-c C-t. I

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> Could you please elaborate here? >> >> I have some meetings scheduled in my org files which show up in the >> agenda. >> >> Meeting 1 is a reoccurring meeting which happens every 2 weeks. All of >> the people in that meting are in the same timezon

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Tim Cross writes: >> Does it sound good enough? > > No, I'm afraid not. How does org distinguish between meeting 1 and > meeting 2? IN meeting one, when the timezone transitions in/out of > daylight savings, nothing needs to change, but in meeting 2, when this > occurs, the meeting needs to be re

Re: Thoughts on this ob language generator

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
George Mauer writes: > I had a need the other day to execute some typescript in an org document. > Now I know that there's an ob-typescript package but that doesn't quite > work the way I want and expects typescript to be installed globally (which > runs into a variety of versioning issues). > >

Re: Question about deadline/schedule events date text property

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Daniel Fleischer writes: > Hi, I'm working on an unrelated project that collects events from agenda > buffers. I noticed the following: when you have a series of a repeating > events, scheduled events have a date text property of the form > (1 9 2023) date matches the instance date > > wh

org-habit and hourly repeats

2023-01-18 Thread Felipe Balbi
Hi, I'm trying to start using `org-habit' but I noticed that hourly repeats are not properly parsed by `org-habit-duration-to-days', however that's a valid use case --- e.g. drinking water, medicine schedule, physiotherapy sessions during the day, periodically practicing a new language. For exam

Re: New face: org-agenda-calendar-timerange

2023-01-18 Thread gautier
Ihor Radchenko writes: <2023-01-01 Sun 10:00>--<2023-01-01 Sun 15:00> and <2023-01-01 Sun 10:00-15:00> are equivalent. I'd say that it will make sense to apply `org-agenda-calendar-event' face and `org-agenda-timerange-leaders' to <2023-01-01 Sun 10:00-15:00> as well. What do you think about

Re: Make org-paste-subtree more predictable and useful

2023-01-18 Thread Philipp Kiefer
Thanks for addressing my concern, Ihor. So I can force same-level yank by navigating to the beginning of the current headline before calling org-paste-subtree, I see. However, I still do not see a way to force it to paste one level below the current headline, i. e. to add the trees on the clip

Re: New face: org-agenda-calendar-timerange

2023-01-18 Thread gautier
The tables in my last message were not send correctly. Please find attached a org file containing the tables. So, the current situation is the following: | Type of entry | Face | Use `org-agenda-timerange-leaders'

Re: Observation of hysteresis in a GNU libc time conversion function

2023-01-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/01/2023 16:54, Ihor Radchenko wrote: Max Nikulin writes: (dt '(-90 -60 -31 -30 -29 -15 0 15 29 30 31 60 90)) This is problematic. You are putting MINUTES out of normal range. Actually after some experiments and surprising results I figured out what really happens. I modifi

Re: Observation of hysteresis in a GNU libc time conversion function

2023-01-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/01/2023 16:54, Ihor Radchenko wrote: This is problematic. You are putting MINUTES out of normal range. (Isn't it really broken?) https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Broken_002ddown-Time.html It uses the values of the other components to determine the calendar time;

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/01/2023 16:45, Tim Cross wrote: Ihor Radchenko writes: Tim Cross writes: It also seems that the solution will need some mechanism (possibly on a per time stamp basis) for the user to specify what should happen when either the time zone has a daylight savings transition, when the timez

One of my Org files hangs Emacs

2023-01-18 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Hi fellow Orgers, so I have a bunch of Org files, most of them pretty big (over 1 megabyte), and one of them repeatedly causes my Emacsa to hang. Sometimes a plain `C-g' helps, sometimes I need to kill the Emacs process. How do I even begin to find out what happens? Any hints? TIA, -- Marcin

Re: One of my Org files hangs Emacs

2023-01-18 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Marcin Borkowski writes: > so I have a bunch of Org files, most of them pretty big (over 1 > megabyte), and one of them repeatedly causes my Emacsa to hang. > Sometimes a plain `C-g' helps, sometimes I need to kill the Emacs > process. How do I even begin to find out what happens? Any hints? 1

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-17 22:51]: > Some good news is that all the above edge cases would equally affect the > current Org's timestamp handling code. Yet, we have no bug reports in > this area. I'd even go further and say that we should not try hard to > make things 100% accurate: (1) it will w

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-18 12:35]: > > It means there shall be functions which can convert timestamps to the > > new time zone, with the option to left unchanged those timestamps who > > already have time zone specified, and with option not to be converted. > > I am not sure why you need a diff

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-18 12:29]: > What should we do when: > > 1. It is close to DST transition 2:59 -> 2:00 -> 2:01 -> ... -> 2:59 -> 3:00 >and the users asks to create a timestamp +1h from now >or, worse, a timestamp +1h from now in a different time zone I still understand that it

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Jean Louis
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-17 20:31]: > On 17/01/2023 02:07, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY gives various examples. > > More links: > - https://stackoverflow.com/tags/timezone/info > - > https://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-a

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-18 13:01]: > Max Nikulin writes: > > > ... I am unsure concerning Windows, it may have an option of quite > > similar variant. That is why I am not sure to which degree Org should be > > liberal in respect to various time zones. > > May we just support whatever TZ su

[SOLUTION] Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Jean Louis
Just leave it out and let Org be single user, single time zone system. You can't make the impossible. It is not database for sensitive work. Let it be text. If they want to convert to their time zone, let them do the home work. If they don't want to use Org for timestamps, like me, let them be.

Re: Org-cite (oc-csl) tip: Filtering bibliography for language

2023-01-18 Thread András Simonyi
Dear All, first of all, sorry for replying that late. On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 11:46, Christian Moe wrote: > Arbitrary sexps would give us more flexibility. Alternately, one could > achieve more or less the same by letting :filter collect any additional > arguments and pass them as &rest to the us

Re: Question about deadline/schedule events date text property

2023-01-18 Thread Daniel Fleischer
Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-18 Wed 13:23] wrote: > Note that `org-fix-agenda-info' converts the 'date property back to some > other format... (yes, that's kind of crazy) Thanks, that could be useful. -- Daniel Fleischer

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> Does it sound good enough? >> >> No, I'm afraid not. How does org distinguish between meeting 1 and >> meeting 2? IN meeting one, when the timezone transitions in/out of >> daylight savings, nothing needs to change, but in meeting 2, when this >>

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Jean Louis writes: > >> ... >> Should be part of C library to observe those things. > > Sure. My previous proposals are all relying on `encode-time' which uses > time.h from system libraries and utilizing TZDB that is taking care > about all this insanity. > > We, howeve

Re: [PATCH][oc-csl] Improve reference parsing

2023-01-18 Thread András Simonyi
Dear All, apologies for replying that late. If I understand the situation correctly, we could handle the question of allowing macros in citations independently of the handling of other constructs, because macros are resolved before processing citations, so they have no effect on the input of Citep

Re: [PATCH] Support building Org from shallow clone [9.6.1 (release_9.6.1-137-gecb62e @ /home/n/.emacs.d/elpaca/builds/org/)]

2023-01-18 Thread No Wayman
Ihor Radchenko writes: No Wayman writes: Ihor Radchenko writes: What we should not have is "make autoloads" failing without internet. The attached patch should take care of that. If the ls-remote errors, GITVERSION will be set to N/A as when it is generally unavailable. I just tri

Re: [PATCH] Support building Org from shallow clone [9.6.1 (release_9.6.1-137-gecb62e @ /home/n/.emacs.d/elpaca/builds/org/)]

2023-01-18 Thread No Wayman
No Wayman writes: The attached patch should take care of that. Sorry. Had trailing whitespace in that version. Attached here without trailing whitespace. >From 85990610ca7572f5a6ff7604d957efdf00747094 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nicholas Vollmer Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 14:00:41 -0500 S

Re: One of my Org files hangs Emacs

2023-01-18 Thread Richard Kim
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> so I have a bunch of Org files, most of them pretty big (over 1 >> megabyte), and one of them repeatedly causes my Emacsa to hang. >> Sometimes a plain `C-g' helps, sometimes I need to kill the Emacs >> process. How do I even begin to find

org-sort no ts

2023-01-18 Thread Samuel Wales
with org-sort, by analogy with org-agenda-sort-notime-is-late, is it possible to sort T, i.e. by ts with most recent first, with entries that have no ts at the bottom? -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2023-01-19 00:31]: > The problem is with meeting 2 and the assumption there is a definitive > timezone for the meeting. > > Consider this scenario. I have a meeting with two other people. We are > all in different timezone. What is the timezone of the meeting? Org in this state can'

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha all, Jean Louis writes: * Tim Cross [2023-01-19 00:31]: The problem is with meeting 2 and the assumption there is a definitive timezone for the meeting. Consider this scenario. I have a meeting with two other people. We are all in different timezone. What is the timezone of the mee

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

2023-01-18 Thread Tim Cross
Jean Louis writes: > * Tim Cross [2023-01-19 00:31]: >> The problem is with meeting 2 and the assumption there is a definitive >> timezone for the meeting. >> >> Consider this scenario. I have a meeting with two other people. We are >> all in different timezone. What is the timezone of the meet