Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-14 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-14 15:46]: > Jean Louis writes: > > Do you mean this: > > > > ** DONE Objective > >CLOSED: [2020-12-13 Sun 20:00] > > *** TODO [#B] Step to do 1 > > *** TODO Step to do 2 > > > > when org-enforce-todo-dependencies is true I can still say DONE for > > Objective above.

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-14 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jean Louis writes: > Do you mean this: > > ** DONE Objective >CLOSED: [2020-12-13 Sun 20:00] > *** TODO [#B] Step to do 1 > *** TODO Step to do 2 > > when org-enforce-todo-dependencies is true I can still say DONE for > Objective above. I have mentioned it today already. Maybe it works on > yo

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* Christopher Dimech [2020-12-13 20:49]: > > Reference to manual: > > (info "(org) TODO Items") > > > > And it is definitely not a "plain text". It is probably largest mode > > for Emacs, a true and full application handling much more than plain > > text. It has more than 129 Emacs Lisp files. May

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Christopher Dimech
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 6:31 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Ihor Radchenko" > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > * Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-13 12:25]:

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Christopher Dimech
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 6:31 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Ihor Radchenko" > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > * Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-13 12:25]:

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Christopher Dimech
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 2:19 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: to...@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Ihor Radchenko" > > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user optio

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-13 12:25]: > Jean Louis writes: > > > Org files I have always found useful for project and plan documents > > preparation, in particular LaTeX and PDF export. As that way I get > > better readability on screen and good printed document. > > > > None of such projects and

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-12-13 08:52]: > > In general Org mode is excellent for personal TODO lists. That is what > > is offered in the menu, that is what is advertised. Problem is that > > there is no warning for users that personal TODO lists are not meant > > for anything but that. There is

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jean Louis writes: > Org files I have always found useful for project and plan documents > preparation, in particular LaTeX and PDF export. As that way I get > better readability on screen and good printed document. > > None of such projects and plans need be marked with TODO as its nature > is t

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* TRS-80 [2020-12-13 06:34]: :PROPERTIES: :CREATED: [2020-12-13 Sun 11:36] :ID: 2e42666a-d04b-4f46-ba90-a923a5e2c50d :END: > On 2020-12-11 21:35, Jean Louis wrote: > > > > By the way I have completely switched all action management to my > > database system with tabulated list mode

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-12 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 6:19 AM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: to...@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Ihor Radchenko" > > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user optio

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-12 Thread Jean Louis
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-12-12 05:41]: > > And I think it is possible for anybody regardless of programming skill > > level to make one's own system of management of tasks within less than > > a week that will get more aligned to personal individualized way of > > handling tasks, then trying to

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-12 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-11 21:35, Jean Louis wrote: By the way I have completely switched all action management to my database system with tabulated list mode. No more using Org for action management, only for document, not even short notes. It sounds like you have well moved on to another solution by now

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 3:35 AM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Ihor Radchenko" > Cc: daniela-s...@gmx.it, to...@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options &

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread Jean Louis
* Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-11 17:24]: > > ... there is no active > > hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. > > You are welcome to submit patches. > > I have experimental code to use pretty-symbols in agenda and align tags > even when frame size changes [1]. However, last time I proposed

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:54:01PM +0100, d

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:54:01PM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote: > Two countrymen conspiring together. Calm down. The Germans ain't after you (BTW: I may have a .de address -- still I am not German. On the Internet, they say, nobody knows you're a dog [1]). Cheers [1] https://en.wikipedia.or

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread daniela-spit
Two countrymen conspiring together. > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:43 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > On Fri, De

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:26 PM > From: "Ihor Radchenko" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it, to...@tuxteam.de > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > > ... there is no

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:47:27PM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote: > > Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no active > hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. Or it may be that there > are no new ideas and you are getting upset about it. No need to second-guess

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread Christopher Dimech
eam.de > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > Am Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:47:27 +0100 > schrieb daniela-s...@gmx.it: > > > Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no > > active hacking on o

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread Ihor Radchenko
> ... there is no active > hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. You are welcome to submit patches. I have experimental code to use pretty-symbols in agenda and align tags even when frame size changes [1]. However, last time I proposed this on mailing list, there was no interest... [1]

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread daniela-spit
acs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > Am Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:47:27 +0100 > schrieb daniela-s...@gmx.it: > > > Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no > > active hacking on org-agenda and adding new features.

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread Detlef Steuer
Am Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:47:27 +0100 schrieb daniela-s...@gmx.it: > Freak out how much you like but it occurs to me that there is no > active hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. Or it may be > that there are no new ideas and you are getting upset about it. Hmm, may be he just meant, wha

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread daniela-spit
e@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 05:32:39AM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote: > > [...] > > > There are problems in Org-Agenda my friend [...] > > I don't know whe

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-11 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 05:32:39AM +0100, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote: [...] > There are problems in Org-Agenda my friend [...] I don't know whether it's your intention (I'm assuming it's not), but your tone comes across as pretty rude. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-10 Thread Jean Louis
* TRS-80 [2020-12-11 08:23]: > On 2020-11-29 17:08, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote: > > Yes, there are problems with the documentation. I noticed > > recently that some guy criticised the manual, and so many got > > super defensive. You should give him a medal for telling you how > > things are. >

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-10 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-11-29 17:08, daniela-s...@gmx.it wrote: Yes, there are problems with the documentation. I noticed recently that some guy criticised the manual, and so many got super defensive. You should give him a medal for telling you how things are. I guess in my mind, complaining about the ma

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-10 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 4:59 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: "Kyle Meyer" , "Tom Gillespie" , > "Org-Mode mailing list" , "Emacs-orgmode" > > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-age

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-12-10 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 4:59 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: "Kyle Meyer" , "Tom Gillespie" , > "Org-Mode mailing list" , "Emacs-orgmode" > > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-age

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:02 PM > From: "Kyle Meyer" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: "Tom Gillespie" , "Org-Mode mailing list" > > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user option

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread Kyle Meyer
daniela-s...@gmx.it writes: >> From: "Tom Gillespie" [...] >> If you have that then your list will be retained. However Emacs will >> probably continue to ask you to remove the missing file until some >> file exists at that path. Not sure about the org agenda behavior for >> missing files since I

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread Tom Gillespie
> Would this affect my own custom What I did when I migrated was to manually move the existing custom-set-variables and custom-set-faces from .emacs to the new custom-file (in my case ~/.emacs.d/custom.el), that way the old definitions will still be loaded. All new customizations will live in cust

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread Jean Louis
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-11-29 23:46]: > Yes, but initially people and going to take my dani.el file and if > they happen to delete their file, the whole setup will break down. If you wish to relate the settings to a file, you may use file local variables so when you give them dani.el that var

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:15 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: "Org-Mode mailing list" > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > * daniela-s...@gmx.it

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread daniela-spit
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:07 PM > From: "Tom Gillespie" > To: daniela-s...@gmx.it > Cc: "Org-Mode mailing list" > Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting > user options > > Here is a workaround. Em

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread Jean Louis
* daniela-s...@gmx.it [2020-11-29 21:54]: > I have identified a problem. Let a user set the files to be used for > Org Agenda in .emacs as follows, and consider the situation when the > file writing.rcl.org does not exist. > > (setq org-agenda-files >'("~/02histr/gadmin/writing.rcl.org" >

Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options

2020-11-29 Thread Tom Gillespie
Here is a workaround. Emacs klobbering settings in .emacs has caused many issues for me in the past. The solution I finally came up with was to ensure that custom variables are loaded before any of my settings. Near the top of my .emacs (before any calls to setq) I have the following: custom